No iCloud on Snow Leopard? THIS IS A JOKE, APPLE!

It may be ridiculous to you to run such "antique software," but not everyone has the finances necessary to stay current. Plus, some of the "antique software" some of us still use no longer is upgraded, so it would be a matter of not only purchasing whole new packages which is very costly, but having to learn how to use them -- not so easy in some cases of complex and different software.

Sjazbec wrote:

Btw to "Klimbakat" : Office 2004 has been made initially for OSX 10.2.x, that was in 2002/2003. Running such antiqe software in 2011 is just ridiculous. Microsoft is fully Intel compatible since 2007. You had 4 years to already upgrade it at least to that version named "2008", which runs fine in Lion.

I don't use Excel myself but I be belave the issue is computability with the macros in VB that the newer versions of Mac Excel does not have.

I know my partner keeps an old PowerPC version of Office due to be compatible with the files she gets.

If Macs are going to play well in mixed environments they need to be able to open and save back to whatever is needed and often that is old file formats or old discontinued software.

TZ wrote:

Sjazbec wrote:

Btw to "Klimbakat" : Office 2004 has been made initially for OSX 10.2.x, that was in 2002/2003. Running such antiqe software in 2011 is just ridiculous. Microsoft is fully Intel compatible since 2007. You had 4 years to already upgrade it at least to that version named "2008", which runs fine in Lion.

I don't use Excel myself but I be belave the issue is computability with the macros in VB that the newer versions of Mac Excel does not have.

I know my partner keeps an old PowerPC version of Office due to be compatible with the files she gets.

If Macs are going to play well in mixed environments they need to be able to open and save back to whatever is needed and often that is old file formats or old discontinued software.

The issue is that Office 2004 is PPC code, Office 2008 and 2011 are not PPC and will run on Lion.

Csound1 wrote:

TZ wrote:

Sjazbec wrote:

Btw to "Klimbakat" : Office 2004 has been made initially for OSX 10.2.x, that was in 2002/2003. Running such antiqe software in 2011 is just ridiculous. Microsoft is fully Intel compatible since 2007. You had 4 years to already upgrade it at least to that version named "2008", which runs fine in Lion.

I don't use Excel myself but I be belave the issue is computability with the macros in VB that the newer versions of Mac Excel does not have.

I know my partner keeps an old PowerPC version of Office due to be compatible with the files she gets.

If Macs are going to play well in mixed environments they need to be able to open and save back to whatever is needed and often that is old file formats or old discontinued software.

The issue is that Office 2004 is PPC code, Office 2008 and 2011 are not PPC and will run on Lion.

That is correct and this is why older Macs that can run PowerPC code need to be supported.

It's that or forcing Mac users to go out and buy a Windows box or at least a copy of Windows to run in emulation.

It goes beyond that though. In print production programs like Freehand and FrameMaker files still need to be opened on their native applications. Macs that can run PowerPC code either natively or through Rosetta will be needed for a long time.

TZ wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

TZ wrote:

Sjazbec wrote:

Btw to "Klimbakat" : Office 2004 has been made initially for OSX 10.2.x, that was in 2002/2003. Running such antiqe software in 2011 is just ridiculous. Microsoft is fully Intel compatible since 2007. You had 4 years to already upgrade it at least to that version named "2008", which runs fine in Lion.

I don't use Excel myself but I be belave the issue is computability with the macros in VB that the newer versions of Mac Excel does not have.

I know my partner keeps an old PowerPC version of Office due to be compatible with the files she gets.

If Macs are going to play well in mixed environments they need to be able to open and save back to whatever is needed and often that is old file formats or old discontinued software.

The issue is that Office 2004 is PPC code, Office 2008 and 2011 are not PPC and will run on Lion.

That is correct and this is why older Macs that can run PowerPC code need to be supported.

It's that or forcing Mac users to go out and buy a Windows box or at least a copy of Windows to run in emulation.

Oh, so updating Office to a newer version is not possible? I see no reason to continue to use such an old piece of software when compatible newer versions exist, if it's just that you don't want to spend the money to upgrade that's not a technical issue and I can't help other than to suggest that you not upgrade to Lion.

Same issue on my macbook pro... finally went into system preferenced>icloud>deselected mail and note then reselected (said starting service) and mail came to life after taking mailbox online.

Worth a try

Csound1 wrote:

TZ wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

TZ wrote:

Sjazbec wrote:

Btw to "Klimbakat" : Office 2004 has been made initially for OSX 10.2.x, that was in 2002/2003. Running such antiqe software in 2011 is just ridiculous. Microsoft is fully Intel compatible since 2007. You had 4 years to already upgrade it at least to that version named "2008", which runs fine in Lion.

I don't use Excel myself but I be belave the issue is computability with the macros in VB that the newer versions of Mac Excel does not have.

I know my partner keeps an old PowerPC version of Office due to be compatible with the files she gets.

If Macs are going to play well in mixed environments they need to be able to open and save back to whatever is needed and often that is old file formats or old discontinued software.

The issue is that Office 2004 is PPC code, Office 2008 and 2011 are not PPC and will run on Lion.

That is correct and this is why older Macs that can run PowerPC code need to be supported.

It's that or forcing Mac users to go out and buy a Windows box or at least a copy of Windows to run in emulation.

Oh, so updating Office to a newer version is not possible? I see no reason to continue to use such an old piece of software when compatible newer versions exist, if it's just that you don't want to spend the money to upgrade that's not a technical issue and I can't help other than to suggest that you not upgrade to Lion.

New Mac version does not support VB macros in Excel so it is not possible to use the newer version in a mixed environment of Macs and PCs.

All this talk and fuss about dropping Rosetta sound oh so

familiar. Seemed to have heard all the same stuff before when

Apple dropped, oh what was it, oh yeah the Classic environment.

TZ wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

TZ wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

TZ wrote:

Sjazbec wrote:

Btw to "Klimbakat" : Office 2004 has been made initially for OSX 10.2.x, that was in 2002/2003. Running such antiqe software in 2011 is just ridiculous. Microsoft is fully Intel compatible since 2007. You had 4 years to already upgrade it at least to that version named "2008", which runs fine in Lion.

I don't use Excel myself but I be belave the issue is computability with the macros in VB that the newer versions of Mac Excel does not have.

I know my partner keeps an old PowerPC version of Office due to be compatible with the files she gets.

If Macs are going to play well in mixed environments they need to be able to open and save back to whatever is needed and often that is old file formats or old discontinued software.

The issue is that Office 2004 is PPC code, Office 2008 and 2011 are not PPC and will run on Lion.

That is correct and this is why older Macs that can run PowerPC code need to be supported.

It's that or forcing Mac users to go out and buy a Windows box or at least a copy of Windows to run in emulation.

Oh, so updating Office to a newer version is not possible? I see no reason to continue to use such an old piece of software when compatible newer versions exist, if it's just that you don't want to spend the money to upgrade that's not a technical issue and I can't help other than to suggest that you not upgrade to Lion.

New Mac version does not support VB macros in Excel so it is not possible to use the newer version in a mixed environment of Macs and PCs.

I'm sorry but you are incorrect, Excel 2011 supports VB, it is compatible with Office 2004 for Mac, Office 2007 & 10 for Windows, Excel 2008 for Mac did not support Visual basic.

Here is a link if you want more information.

New Mac version does not support VB macros in Excel so it is not possible to use the newer version in a mixed environment of Macs and PCs.

And this is some how Apple's fault that Microsoft decided to drop VB

support?

Why do you not complain to Microsoft?

woodmeister50 wrote:

New Mac version does not support VB macros in Excel so it is not possible to use the newer version in a mixed environment of Macs and PCs.

And this is some how Apple's fault? Why do you not complain

to Microsoft?

The information posted by Woodmeister50 is incorrect, Excel 2011 does include support for Visual Basic.

Thanks for pointing that out, was just commenting on the quote

that was made (forgot to put the posters name there).

Besides, left Microsloth years ago in favor of Open Office

and never looked back.

woodmeister50 wrote:

New Mac version does not support VB macros in Excel so it is not possible to use the newer version in a mixed environment of Macs and PCs.

And this is some how Apple's fault that Microsoft decided to drop VB

support?

Why do you not complain to Microsoft?

Seems enough people did so it has been added back in for Excel 2011 as Csound1 just made me aware of which is good news.

But when a feature is left out of a newer Mac version it doesn't matter whose fault it is as much as it matters that you can find software to use that allows the required data to be opened and saved in the correct format.

When you are a Mac user in a sea of Windows you have to use whatever works with their systems which often is not the newest and latest thing.

Hopefully Office 2011 fill this need.

[color=blue] Why so many quotes? (hope this bbcoding worls) [/color]

TheEminemFan25 wrote:

[color=blue] Why so many quotes? (hope this bbcoding worls) [/color]

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