No iCloud on Snow Leopard? THIS IS A JOKE, APPLE!

sounds like the hack that people are doing with CardDav will result in a lot of duplicate records whenever an iOS device is used at the same time. That is, after all, the whole point of using icloud at all.

I bought an expensive macbook, and expensive iphone. Apple has the technology to make them sync, but won't let me use it unless I upgrade to Lion. So I paid to upgrade to Lion, no problem; except that Lion is a piece of junk with many problems. I went back to SL. Maybe ML will be better we'll see. But it really ***** that Apple cut off SL users from using icloud services. There is no technical reason for doing this other than trying to force us to upgrade to Lion. For a lot of us, Lion is not an option right now due to technical deficiencies in Lion.

I played around with SOHO a bit, but I don't like it, I didn't come across any bugs, but it was way complicated compared to iCal. Maybe I will just try to get the CalDav hack working and then I will sync my addressbook with itunes, that might be good enough.

By the way, is it true that newer apple hardware cannot run SL? I don't plan on upgrading my OS until its a good deal better than Lion, which is junk

I can understand your frustration, however I believe your iPhone 3G is compatible with iCloud. I have the 3Gs and it works, you do have to update the iOS to 5 in order for iCloud to be available to you. My frustration is that I can't use iCloud on my MacPro simply because I still use applications that won't run on Lion. However, with other free third party services I am able to do the same thing.

The iPhone 3G will not upgrade to iOS 5 and there for is NOT compatible with iCloud (there are some jailbrake version that clame to work but I have not found one)

My understanding is that the iPhone 3G will sync when connected by USB to iTunes. Since I own one, I will be discovering the truth of this statement soon, as i upgrade to iCloud before the end of the month.

Yes, bothy the 3G and original iPhone will sync via USB and iTunes. That is not the same thing as synching with iCloud. Essentially the phone merges data with your calendar on your Mac, then you Calendar synchronizes with iCloud.

The phone itself will not directly talk to iCloud. Huge difference.

So if you are traveling with a 3G and an iPad for instance, there is no way to synchronize with your iPad, or vice-versa. If your 3G is damaged, lost or stolen, any information entered into the contacts or calendar will be lost.

Woodwyn: what is your suggestion for iPhone 3G owners such as myself and please do not tell me to buy an iPhone 4S!

0f course not. The iPhone 3GS and 4 will support iCloud too. ;-)

Unfortunately, my solution was basically upgrading my Mac, my iPhone and my OS, just like Apple wanted me to do.

There have been a number of third party suggestions here, which are good ones, if you really don't want to upgrade anything. But they aren't perfect, and they are more trouble than I want to go to. I was basically synching via USB and iTunes since I transitioned to iCloud, which finally motivated me to upgrade the phone -- I kept forgetting about appointments because I wasn't syncing everyday, so events weren't being transferred to my iPhone, nor contacts I had added on my iPad, or Mac.

Fortunately the used Apple market offers some acceptable upgrade options for less money than buying new. A 3GS is the minimum configuration for iCloud compatibility, and that is a solid phone, readily available on the used market since it became the "free" phone.

As I expected, Apple is adding back the former Gallery services as PhotoSharing, which appears to require iOS 6 and Mountain Lion. One of the big things I wanted from iCloud was the ability to share my photos easily, but not necessarily post them to Facebook. Perhaps my biggest concern about the original iPhone and 3G is that more than contacts and calendars, I didn't want to lose photos taken on the device, if damaged or lost, and be able to access them if I didn't have my phone. iCloud does this automatically, and imports them into iPhoto, as well as being accessible on iCloud for 30 days, and soon I will be able to select the photos I want to share and automatically make those available to only those people i want to share them with.

All of these things are why I upgraded as Apple hoped. But there are plenty of alternatives to upgraded, just not as seemless as iCloud. Personally, I have been trying to get my phones and PDAs to sync with my Mac since 1995, being forced to switch methods every time I upgraded my phone, or changed carriers, or data devices. I'm just over the days of jerry-rigging a solution that rarely worked reliably and required constant attention to maintence.

As I suspected you have no solution for the iPhone 3G other than "upgrade" -- No thank you: I will use the USB tethered iTunes solution for now.

When the iPhone 5 comes out with 3G data frequency compatibility with T-Mobile (my provider of choice), I will then put my money into an upgrade.

MlchaelLAX wrote:

Woodwyn: what is your suggestion for iPhone 3G owners such as myself and please do not tell me to buy an iPhone 4S!

First sorry for the spelling.....

My advice would be three pronged.

1) Acnolige that Apple that have made a busness desion to make our 3G iPhone's and non pre-Lion devices non compatable with iCloud cripling them when it come's to the things we want to do and the things we used to do.

2) Deside to tack what action one can to try and change Apples mind (use the feedback system, ring customer services with a spific task and ask them to walk you though that task then complain when thay can not). It may also be posable that if by stoping the MobilMe service some fuctions of these device are delibley cripled and it may be in the customer law of the country you in that this is not lawfull. If inded this is the case then encarage others to join you in a groupe action.

3) Relay on non clound ways of doing things. Relay on non wifi ways of doing things(use wire and iTunes). Relay on non device depent ways of doing things (use pen and paper (filofax))

I know! I'm choked too. I just put 4 more GBs into my iMac, but was told i'll have to buy another computer with more RAM to upgrade to Lion. It's crap, really. Built-in Obsolescence is a necessity in our capitalist world 😟

That is not accurate... who told you that? 2GB RAM is the minimum for Lion.

I took it to Simply Computing, in Vancouver, Canada. They are the local Apple 'technicians' ?

Told me to get a new iMac with Lion, because my 2008 iMac won't cut it. It is an Intel Duo Core.

Oh, I stand corrected - sort of. They were wrong to say that you need a computer with more RAM, but rather it is the processor that is holding you back. Lion requires an Intel Core 2 Duo processor.

Now I stand corrected. My computer stats: 2Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo. Which is not what i typed from my memory. If I can run Lion on here I'd consider upgrading.

If I can run Lion on here I'd consider upgrading.

You most certainly can and I say you should! Lion requires an Intel Core 2 Duo processor, which you have, and 2GB of RAM (more is recommended, but you say you installed 4GB). Full specifications are here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/SP629