ios 5 make my ipod 4g slow

I updated my 4g 32 gb ipod yesterday.... Now everything is slow and laggy. When I restart the device everything is fine for about 5 minutes. It seems that some background based stuff (ios5 notifications etc.) uses all the RAM. I have no background App running whatsoever. After 5 minutes the system goes laggy. Most RAM hungry apps keep crashing. I want Apple to have that issue fixed.

Or I will never ever by myself another Apple product. I currently own (Ipad 1 and Ipad2), Ipod 2G and 4G, Macbook Pro early 2011, Apple Tv 2.

I am in the need of a new phone. Will be a Samsung, if Ios 5 won't work on my Ipod. Plus... Apple dissaproves downgrading... I am really ashamed of such a policy.

I can say that it would be ok for you to get the iPhone 4S if you want. No lag or crashing because of the larger RAM. It seems that the only one with the issue is the iPod touch, especially the 4G

Found a solution! (Read the questions first)

First: When I buy an apple product I expect it to be working. We shall not forget that the Ipod allready costs a fortune, furthermore the Ipod must be seen as the "starting drug". At least the Ipod led me to an Ipad, a MBP and an apple TV. So in order to convince customers to buy an iphone (or any other apple product) the Ipod should run as expected. Though.. I worked out a solution to the problem which is mentioned here. In order to find out what is wrong I made a jailbreak and I ran through the file system. I compared it to my Ipod 2G and I found out that there are some background files causing the RAM to run out. 95 percent of the RAM are wired even if the Ipod restarts. I won´t bore you with technical stuff so here is the solution to solve the problem. However have a look at the questions first. This is not for everyone.

Solution:

1. Have you bought your Ipod with a firmware before IOS 5? (If No, then this solution is not for you!)

2. When updating to IOS 5 did you do a clean restore? (If not, head on)

3. Did you restore the Ipod using a backup file via Itunes? (If yes head on)

Ok, to make sure everyone is fine, I repeat the following: This works if you upgraded your ipod touch 4g from firmware 4.x to IOS 5 using the backup function of itunes.

What you have to do:

- make a backup of everything you may need

- backup passwords

- backup your contact data

- backup your calenders, reminders, bookmarks

- make a normal backup via itunes (which you may only use if this solution does not work for you)

- make sure you have at least 3 hours of spare time

What will happen:

- you are going to restore your ipod using itunes, you will not use a backup, you will set it up as a new bought ipod. So all your data will be lost! Be sure to back everything up manually, use the good old pen and paper method!

What you got to do:

- restore your ipod via itunes

- when asked to restore from a backup, click no

- set it up as a new ipod touch

What are the positive effects of this?

- your Ipod will be nearly as fast as an iphone 4

- the background processes will work fine

- the RAM usage just works

- no more app crashing

- fast app switching

- increasibly faster load times

- no more lags

What may be a pain in the ***?

- you have to reconfigure everything manually

- wlan passcodes

- calenders

- reminders

- mail accounts

- savegames

- app accounts

How can I get around these pains?

- try to configure calenders, reminders, mail accounts via the apple cloud

- make a backup of your savegames (Jailbreak needed)

What is the reason my Ipod was so laggy?

I am not yet sure. I think the people working for apple might know more about this, if they care. I experienced that there may have been a problem upgrading from Ios 4.x to Ios 5. Some processes do not seem to work in the right way. Furthermore there is some background code which simply does not make any sense. It may have to do with the notification center. Remember using Desktop PCs with Windows ME? Every half year or so you had to formate your filesystem in order to keep the system running smoothly. I guess this simply is the problem of the Ipods. Some processes which ran in Ios4 simplay make no sense in IOS5, but for some reason they keep running (if you restore via an itunes backup). Think of it as unneccessary code eating up all your RAM. If you set up a new Ipod these code lines won´t be there any more because they are not part of IOS5. Upgrades are always not as good as clean restores....

However... I bought an apple product so I don´t want to care about workarounds. Now I got to set up everything manually. Why do you hurt us so much Apple?

Well, I just did it... I restore it and put it as a new ipod...

It took me a big amount of time... and I loss all my pics and videos from camera roll... (so make a backup of that too cause I thought it was going to be backed up per se...)

But now I'm testing it and looks... better... for now...

I notice that when you scroll on the main menu or in apps its going with a little slagish...

I will try it for a couple of days an post back... and I will try to use it as a "normal" device... not closing apps and cancelling services... let's see.

Well, not days but a couple of minutes... in general I notice that things are a little bit better (or Im suggested already...) but there are terrible moments too... I listening to a song, and I put my ipod on coverflow mode... while scrolling everything is very sluggish till the point that sometimes the song stopped playing! what kind of ipod do that???? I repeat, I don't have this issues with the first gen ipod touch! no much apps open yet... fresh install... and less than a half the amount of songs I sync comparing with my first gen ipod...

I will give it more time but something is telling me that things will get worst minute by minute...

That doesn't really work. I've tried everything for while now and if you go to the usage setting on the iPod, it clearly states that the iPod has a memory issue on iOS 5. Nothing will work unless Apple releases an update to optimize the memory issue for the iPod Touch 4th Gen to be as fast as it was on iOS 4. I guess people have to just live with it until Apple releases a new iPod Touch with more RAM on it.

Now thats annoying me... It worked with my device and a couple of devices from friends... Ok folks.. I jailbroke my device a second time and I installed SBSettings to monitor the usage of my RAM. At this point you all have to know that Jailbraking always slows down the device furthermore depending on cydia tweaks you might have installed. As a jailbreaker of the first hour I can tell you that this affects every I-Device. Ipad1/Ipad2 Ipod 2G, they will all be just a little bit slower after the Jailbreak. But I have to say that the JB works best on Ipad 2.

So if your Ipod4G is jailbroken I am afraid you have to live with a slower device (and sometimes app-crashing).

But my fully restored 4G (set up as a new Ipod device) is way faster than my 4G running Ios4 which was just upgraded to Ios5.

SBSsettings tells me that I have 39 MB RAM free, even though there are more than 80 Apps in the task switcher. Note that I have no other tweak than SBSettings installed. When having a look at the running processes my Ipod shut down everything wich is not required and only Facebook and the Mail app are running in the background. App switching is fast (not as fast as under Ios4 but it´ll do)

I strongly advice you to stay away from winterboard themes, they will slow down the device considerably. Furthermore any other system tweak (except the ones which delete background services) will slow down the device too.

What I will do now:

I am going to install some cydia tweaks and I will try to find out whether they affect jailbroken devices... I bet they will.

In the meantime try to shut down facetime in the settings. For some reason it steals an enormous amount of RAM. I have to tell you that I never used it anyway and therefore didn´t realize that it was shut down. Maybe it´s just that app that causes all the pain who knows?

And I am sorry for leaving out the camera roll and the videos in the backup! I still hope this works to some of you until apple releases a new FW.

Edit:

I will provice screen shots in a couple of minutes. So that you see that I am not just lieing.

Message was edited by: MichaelGermanyNRW

Hm.. I cannot upload images even though the format is right. So I guess you just need to believe me. I installed some tweaks and managed to bring the device down to just 19 MB of free RAM. I am counting 40 Apps in the App switcher and only got 3 of the running in the background (music, facebook, mail). The device still runs "smoothly". There is a short lag when I turn it on, no apps crash whatsoever. I think it is slower than on Ios 4 but it is way faster than my old Ipod Touch 4G (the one upgraded from Ios 4 to 5).

I just advice you to backup your data manually and do a clean restore without the itunes backup. It will speed up your device. I won´t say that it runs as smooth as on Ios4 (as I realized that my Ios4 Ipod was jailbroken allready), but it will run better, faster and without app crashes. Before the restore almost every RAM hungry app crashed on my device. Now it only rarely happens that is to say almost never.

It is worth the time you will spend to set everything back to normal (being about the manual backups).

Furthermore the update from ios 4 to 5 was a mayor thing and I think that something just went wrong with it.

I appologize again for forgetting to mention your videos and photos in the backup.

Hey Michael don't worry about the videos and photos thing... I found an app that recovered that from my last backup so I import that to aperture and then back to the ipod...

Well, as I said before I did all this process and it's true that things are more... functional...

Still drives me crazy that (and I'm not going to get tired of publishing this everywhere!) MY FIRST GEN IPOD IS FASTER!

Without the Backup things are smoother. I'm still getting a bunch of "low memory" on settings/about/usage

and one or two crashes...

Worst notices are with the Music App (incredible... an iPod with problems with the MUSIC APP!)

Facebook... Pulse... and other apps with scroll (like safari when loading this post is slugish...)

Don't know when is going to be fixes but im tired of waiting and see how WE are working to find a solution (and spending time and money on this things...)

Apple is really screwing things... this ios5 on ipod... last Lion 10.7.3 update... Snow Leopard update... wow! nice that we spend 3-4 times more money to get this devices compering with other competitors right? I thought it was because THINGS USE TO WORK...

I have to agree to what you said about apple and screwing up things with the Ipod touch 4g. They should have sticked to Ios4. But I guess that would have been a problem selling the white Ipod 5G: "It is white... and slow... ."

Anyway... I have seen a couple of Samsungs in the past weeks and I start to like them. The screen resolution is better, they are faster, cheaper, more customizable and even the touch screen is as good as apples. I think I will buy myself a Samsung smartphone in the near future.

But the other apple products are still very well and worth the price. I am looking forward to trade in my Ipad2 for a brand new Ipad 3. The resell price is amazing, compared to any other brand.

Still hoped I helped a bit. Now we got to wait for an apple solution. If they had only allowed us to chose our firmware on our own that would have been nice.

You nailed it. It is definitely iCloud slowing things down. Thanks!

I always had a nagging feeling it was related to accessing the network.

Also I disabled all search options and turned off bluetooth.

I do not even use iCloud, nor Bluetooth; I even erased everything and also from a "new iPod state" this gadget is extremely slow after this obligatory iOS 5 up(?)date.

After this renewal procedure you can try to go to the "search page" and it takes it's time before showing the full graphics transition...

After reinstalling everything you can experiement the powerless experience of seeing how the iPod closes the app you're working in: a mail in gmail, a pdf in a pdf viewer app... you name it... (It's DEFINITIVELY a memory issue).

I am feeling VERY deceived with Apple. This is my first Apple product and I don't really understand why is this Apple cult about. They're the same thing as their competition.

PLEASE APPLE: Make an iOS update especially for the iPod 4th Gen!

Thanks in advance.

Buy a Samsung galaxy S player and be done with it. Honestly it is awesome. Apple will probably fix it with Gen 5. I got sick of waiting.

Well hopefully it will be fixed in 5.1 that is supposedly coming out next month. We can only hope...but in the mean time, my iPhone 4S is still having no problems

iOS 5.1 is already out in nz it does improve Lagging a little bit