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What am I doing wrong? Location based reminders

iPhone 4 here...upgraded to iOS 5...no problems...seems to be running smoothly.


Tried more than a few times to set up location based reminders...but when leaving and when arriving. I'm not getting any reminders or notifications at all. I have location services on for reminder too.


Example:

Set up a list for when I arrived at a store. I added the location to my contacts, as it tells you to. Set that location in reminders.


Arrived at the store and nothing. I open the app and something pops up telling me to turn on wifi for better results. Why would I turn on wifi when I'm out and about? I had 5 bars on my 3G signal. Does that make any sense at all? I have to be doing something wrong but a search on this forum hasn't yielded and results.

iPhone 4, iOS 5

Posted on Oct 13, 2011 12:21 PM

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Oct 17, 2011 5:29 PM in response to Jovi Guitarist

Have only had them work once (and I wasn't even close to home. Even went into Apple today to have them run diagnostics on phone. All was ok there.

The only thing I could think of is maybe iCloud needs to have "Push" enabled in the Mail settings (Mail -> Fetch New Data -> Push (on) -> Advanced -> iCloud -> turn on Push).


My thinking here is that..

1) the Advanced screen says you are turning iCloud push on for "Mail, Contacts and 7 more..." could Reminders be one of the 7 more?

2) If I have a reminder set to alert when I leave a location, does iCloud need to have "Push" enabled so that reminder is sent instantaneously or will it sit and poll for whatever "Fetch" timeframe I have set (for example if I have iCloud set to "Fetch every 30 minutes" is it possible that the Reminder (even though its based on location) will not be processed through iCloud for possibly another 30 minutes?


On phone with Apple now to diginto this more.

Oct 17, 2011 7:46 PM in response to Jovi Guitarist

The location services is more accurate when you have wi-fi enabled because the iPhone is using not only GPS satelites but the location of wi-fi hotspots as well as cell towers. I think that Apple uses this combination because GPS drains the battery big time. Triangulating from cell tower locations and wi-fi hotspots does not. I'm pretty sure that the Maps app uses strictly GPS satelites... which is why you can pinpoint your car on the highway and see it moving in real time. For something like a "geo-fence" around an approximate location to activate a reminder it is better to use the aforementioned 3 pronged attack.


Also, I believe that a contact entry is needed because it all ties in to iCloud. Remember, when iCloud is enabled you have Contacts, Calanders, e-mail, photos, etc. all going up to the servers in North Carolina. Just putting a pin on the Maps app is assuming Apple and Google are best buddies. Remember that Android comes from Google. Android and iPhone OS are competing products. Apple is working on it's own Maps app as evidenced by the acquisitions and hirings in the last few years. Expect this "put a pin on the location I want to geo-fence" in a future update to the iOS. For now we have to do it through a contact.


Hope that sorts some stuff out.


JWB

Nov 11, 2011 2:29 AM in response to Jovi Guitarist

I also can not use the reminder feature by location. When you tap the contact's address, you will go to the Maps, but in the wrong location. But if you tap on the search address bar again, without changing anything, you'll go to the right location. This bug may be preventing the use of reminder.

I'm in Brazil, and it seems that not much attention was given to this problem!
Apple? Any Idea?


Jan 27, 2012 8:47 AM in response to dacdomingues

I am really starting to *HATE* this feature because of its lack of usability... First off, I have NEVER yet been able to get a trigger off of any reminder that I've set using the location. If I enable location as well as time as triggers for the reminders, the reminders will only trigger when the time has come (i.e. when the time set in the reminder has passed). A location-only reminder has NEVER YET WORKED for me.

I have Location Services turned on and ALLOWED the use of these for the Reminders App, I've set up iCloud and enabled reminders to be synched there, I have disabled synching reminders to any other account (so that only iCloud will receive them) and when setting up a reminder for 'leaving' I checked that the 'Current Location' was indeed my current location. At least on this final point I can tell you that the 'current location' was always as accurate as could be, even when within a building.


Despite all of these precautions, not a single one of my location-based reminders have worked to date. I have tried it five times now and decided I shall NEVER be using the Reminders app again (at least until such a time as when it is fixed). I cannot and will not believe that the problem lies with my GPS accuracy, because, as I mentioned before, even the Reminders app itself displayed the correct location when using it for a 'Leaving' reminder. Secondly, I have two Apps available that can do the exact same thing in the situations for which I use it (reminding me to report myself when arriving at the railway station), and they DO work.


As you might be able to guess by now, I am really disappointed in the way this feature works (or rather, doesn't work). If I use my Satnav application (Navigon Select) it will always tell me I have arrived EXACTLY at the right moment, yet I still don't get the reminder to trigger.

The only possible cause as to why this can happen is that Google Maps doesn't pin-point the house number. So, if you set a reminder to remind you at 1, Baker's Street, London, it will actually display your location as being 1 - 7, Baker's Street, London. This means that a radius exists, and that is where this fails. The address you've set as your location reads 1, Baker's Street, London, and therefore doesn't match with your current location.

(Please note that any correspondence of street names used in this post to actually existing street names is entirely coincidential).


I live in the Netherlands and I have an App installed that 'wakes me up' when I'm arriving at a set railway station. I can set it to trigger 'exactly at' the location, or otherwise when within 20, 10 or 5 kilometres away from there (in other words, when I am within the desired radius). No matter which of these settings I use, all of them do work, including the 'spot-on' one. So, apart from the hypothesis I pointed out above, I cannot seem to find any reason as to why this wretched Reminders App doesn't want to try and do the same just for once. I feel Apple shouldn't have tried and come up with such a feature at least until such a time as when they were convinced it works in 99% of cases. It seems that, currently, it's coming closer to a 9% score. Rather embarrassing, if you ask me. So, instead of using this excuse for a Reminders App to remind me (or not), I've gone back to using apps that do quite much better at it. And as an added bonus, these also work on my ye olde iPhone 3GS, and didn't even need iOS 5 (although that is now installed on all my iDevices).


To sum up, I think this App (the Reminders app) is just about as useful as an empty teabag when it comes to reminding you. I think it could have been potential, seeing as it does know (and display) my current location correctly. Shame on you, Apple...

What am I doing wrong? Location based reminders

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