Iphone 3GS slow after update to iOS 5

Ken,

"Regardless if you check the SLA apple has its ***** covered. I looked after my iOS 3 to 4 hasstle. Did you ever read it?"

I read the SLA and I disagree with you. Where exactly does Apple have the right to brick a perfectly working phone and give you no choice but to buy a new one?

Dear unnamed person

You imply apple bricked your phone. They didnt. You did either by poor practice or had worn hardware that was near the end of its life. We have no way to prove this so warranties are usually one year.

Again. I feel for you. I am going to Mexico where they will gladly buy phones for parts let me know.

Ken

Dear unnamed person who calls himself "KenZakreski",

Apple bricked my phone and doesn't allow me to go back to a working OS: that's a fact.

So, according to your line of reasoning, if you buy some eggs that's contaminated with salmonella, the seller is not liable since you ate it by poor practice?

This is way off topic for those that follow this link...

Dear unknown dude that pefers the tag Sir W as he doesn't want us to know who you are and that you wrecked your phone and are trying to find someone to blame. I feel for you see my episode with ios 4.

It's a nice day, the sun is shining, my dog is recovering from what ever he ate. Why are you making me think. I'm not a lawyer just a mac user, fan boy appearantly that you want to argue with. lol

OK it is more like ... you bought a dozen egss. The egg producer is governed to sell eggs in a fashion that prevent disease to a practical utilitarian procedure. ie store them refridgerated, clean the chicken poo off before selling, use clean containers, remove dead chickens occassionally etc.

You buy these eggs. We don't know how you transport or store them, how you prepare them or how soon after you cooked them you ate them. We just know your actions resulted in you getting poisened. Nobody told you to put old stinky eggs in your mouth and you got sick. Now your saving grace is you bought good eggs so we can assume quite safely here that you don't know how to cook or eat and will put stinky eggs in your mouth.

Now take your phone to Mexico, sell it for parts and take some time on the beach, go on Craigslist buy yourself another phone and move on. Apple SLA has got you by the eggs and they have more, smarter and bigger lawyers.

This forum is for users to help each other with problems, the current suggestion is to turn on features one by one till you find the feature that causes the slow response and deal with that.

btw bricked means it is an unresponsive object ie you got nothing, no power, no nothing. If you are able to downgrade it .. its not called bricking it. Has you looked for the technique to downgrade an iphone to 4, does any one want to?

I think I liked it better in the 90's before Apple got rich and their products popular, most people used PCs.

with regards,

Ken

see attached pic. My 3GS runnning 5.0.1

iPhone 3GS users I've been following this thread for a while now and I am happy to see that there still loads of complains against iOS 5, I was thinking it was only me but I'm glad it's not. I've been trying and testing loads of stuff slowly adding apps resetting and restoring phone (with and without backup) but it only works for few days or week and then it gets caught up in slowdown and app crashes. Another big thing I've noticed on 3GS is that battery drain specially if you enable iCloud (even if you disable battery drain will continue still). And only solution is to restore. As it takes me 3 - 4 charges a day to get throughout the whole day and half a night.

Killing apps helps a bit but not as much.

Safari web browser slowed down and very unresponsive commenting on the forums and filling out long horizontal forms. As key strokes delay by 3-5 sec.

One other big thing I've noticed was phone is crashing and turning self off specially when loading apps(tap to start app) and it gets even worst when battery drops below 23% then non of the apps will work but only crash the phone. Apple apps work fine except safari ,but third party apps crash the phone. Then I need to turn it back on and wait another 2-3 min to phone to turn on. Only to run App again and pray it wont turn off the phone(which hardly ever happens) Reminds me of blackberry startup time.

Music player is horrible as album arts and music sort is all messed up. Same album songs were in 1 album and now I have 4 albums displayed under one title but 4 times. I have turned off sort by artist under settings but it's not changing anything. Album arts - cover flow lags as they are optimised for a bigger screen and Faster processor.... So yea in few words apple is making this phone obsolete... And I don't wanna upgrade to 4s if so I'll probably switch to any icecream sandwich or WP7. Cos this this just fall under blackberry category now!

I have to say good stuff about ios 5 like iMessage = or whatsapp I was quite happy with that too.

Email support has improved.

Notification and screen lock notification is very useful but all of this was available on 4.x with jailbreak apple just ripped them off and android. And then they go around suing other company's,

Which became very annoying just to hear apple is suing Samsung apple is suing Motorola, Nokia, HTC etc. I love apple products iPad iPod iPhone but with this update on 3GS and iPod 3G became bricks and I have been waiting for apple to release an update to fix this problems or allow us to downgrade to 4.x.

And jailbreak is not an option it gets 2 times slower that what you have now. Even if you disable multitask and have button that kills all running apps and history(task manager). It still works slow. So what I've been doing was restoring phone every now and then few times a month. Just to have usable phone.

Sorry for such a long message but I just could not hold it in anymore.

Apple when 5.1? Will be released? What are the fixes for it. At least let us know that you working on it.

With big regrets your annoyed customer.

Ken, nice picture but I think I now know why you (and others) are getting marvellous output from 3GS.

You got 'no network'!!! Therefore it's a glorified iPod.

In addition. Some people love their 3GS on ios5. Some hate it. The simple fact is if you have an 4S you will quickly realise what a piece of turd 3GS is. And u can't polish a turd.

So my advice is upgrade or buy another manufacturer. Cos apple sure ain't done anything during the 4 months since this and other threads started.

Silicon valley......full of tits.

You keep saying this thread is for helping people, I don't see what's your help here? The solution you are implying here is to buy some tickets to Mexico and sell the phone for parts...

The solution is simple. I was able to roll back to 4.3.3 because I have my SHSH blobs. My old hardware (according to how you call it) is working GREAT on 4.3.3 and it was imposible to make a call with my phone on iOS 5.0.1, so I guess is not a worn hardware problem...

And there's no way to install iOS 4 without SHSH blobs. I don't know where you got this. If you need to restore your phone (without SHSH blobs) you have to install the iOS Apple decides to sign (in this case only iOS5). So there's no way to install iOS 4.

By the way, apple asked me for a username when I registered here, not my full name. But if you feel better knowing who am I my name is Manuel Lombardi, I'm 34 years old and I live in Buenos Aires. I also have a wife and one son.

Apple must let users roll back their devices to iOS 4 using the same software they make us use to upgrade and to manage our Iphones: Itunes. Any other technique (using 3rd party software, saved SHSH blobs) means Apple give a s.it abuot their old customers.

Goodbye.

I originally posted that I had this problem on Oct 21, 2011 7:35 AM. I have called AT&T and Apple and had no resolution.

Yesterday I bought a Samsun Galazy Skyrocket. It is blazingly fast, has a much better screen and is really a very nice little device. It does seem to need charging a lot.

I'd have left AT&T had my wife and kids not all had iPhones as well (all 4's). However they now want my Samsung.

It's taken me over 4 months but I give up. Unfortunate I had to spend to get rid of this brick but no way was that money going to Apple.

To answer the question, why did I upgrade originally? Because we have 5 iPhones and 3 iPod Touches and that's what iTunes nags you to do.

RP1428

I think as u started the thread you should have the final say. Nothing can be added, you sum up a lot of users frustrations and it just proves these threads and apple don't look after their customers interests.

Sir W has used the term "bricked" out of frustration - you know that. I too have put up with a very unresponsive 3GS. Taking up to 3 seconds for a single char to echo on the screen is not pleasant. It is not a liitle bit slower, it is intermittently very slow to respond. This is clearly a bug that is chewing resources on the 3GS and has nothing to do with it being old hardware. Apple supports 3GS with IOS 5, and they will eventually fix this bug. The most irritating thing is the sound of silence from Apple. At least if we knew there was a fix in the pipeline, it would make the problem that much more tolerable and we could all look up from out 3GSs and enjoy that sunshine.

Today I found the nub of my problem. I believe it is further down in this thread. I turned off Calendar notifications and - bingo, i got my old phone back! Yay! I have tried other things such as disabling iCloud and restarting, but these made no difference for me. If it is relevant - I sync will google calendar. I suspect that there are multiple causes to the underlying memory leak, buy try this - it worked instantly for me.

As above, I had a few teething problems with 5.01, draining the battery and/or slowing things down. This is why i'd suggest reinstalling and taking things gradually.

Now it works about 80-90% as fast as iphone 4, with only very occasional stutters. And it costs a fraction of the price.

At the end of the day its behind the times, but works fine for most people. In the UK at least it is still sold new on contract with 5.01 out of the box. They must sell in their 1000's, so i dont believe there is fundamentally anything wrong with this setup.

Are people aware the term "bricked" means unable to reinstall or even switch on their phone - I think that term is being mis-used around here. "Bricked" does not mean it merely doesnt run as well as before.

And btw im no Apple lover, theyre as money-grabbing as any other company, charging as much as they can get away with for products and services (capitalism after all)

Well, it looks to me that you started arguing with whoever is stating anything that you don't like, blaming them and not even considering the possibility that Apple screwed up something with iOS 5 (it never happened before, right? The antenna problem with the iPhone 4 was just a conspiracy of a bunch of Apple-bashers...)

If you had the decency to read this entire thread instead of jumping to conclusions and bashing users for their "poor practice" you would have learned that your entire argument about me (and other users) wrecking their own phones is bogus. I just restate the facts:

1. I had an iPhone 3GS working satisfactorily with iOS 4.3.5

2. Apple sent me an unsolicited note recommending to upgrade to iOS 5

3. After the upgrade, my iPhone started being very sluggish, many apps kept crashing and even the most basic functionalities, like making or getting a call, were severely compromised

4. I went through the official support channels (knwoledge base, Genius bar, bug submission forms, discussion forums) to no avail

5. After countless hours on google I discovered that apple was still signing the SHSH blobs for iOS 4.1 so I was able to get some basic functionalities back (of course 4.1 has tons of security issues and half of the apps I bought require 4.3 at least)

Point 5 alone confutes your argument about my hardware being faulty or my "poor practice". Other users have their iPhone 3GS bricked (not being able to make a phone call from a phone is IMHO equivalent to bricking) and still under warranty (you can still buy the 3GS) and the official answer they got was "buy a 4S".

Why can't you accept the simple fact that iOS 5 has some problems with some iPhone 3GSs? Why can't you see that the most sensible thing for Apple to do is to allow users to downgrade to iOS 4.3.5? It's probably just a very simple SQL query that my 10 years old niece could write.

Apple doesn't state publicly that they don't support downgrading. They don't state that the "backup" of your phone through iTunes doesn't allow you to restore your phone to that version either. I consider this un-ethical, and I can't blame users for not going to jailbreak web sites to learn how to save their SHSH blobs (which, btw, is against Apple SLA) so they can go back to a working phone in case Apple's upgrades render their phones basically useless.

Now, you can like Apple's policies and business practices, and I'm not interested in changing your opinion. But, please, stop implying that me or anybody else bricked their own phones: it was iOS 5 that did it. I only blame Apple for not allowing me to go back to iOS 4.3.5 or providing a fix to the issue they created.

BTW, one user in the thread claimed that an AppleCare engineer aknowledged the problems of iOS 5 with certain iPhone 3GSs. I can't confirm nor confute that statement, but if it was true?

Naughty naughty Apple. I love my 4S but you screwed the 3GS owners. Hang your head in shame and come back with a solution.

It's not rocket science.

"Nope, there'll be zero shame at Apple over a minority percentage of users using an out of date phone..

No doubt they'l get around to fixing it eventually, If you really can't wait just jailbreak it in the meantime for goodness sake.

Thats not rocket science."

Dan98, my phone still has 4 months left of the AT&T contract. Last September when I upgraded it was a little past Apple warranty and a little into the second year of the contract.

"out of date phone"? - not really when this software release was close to halfway through my 2 year contract with AT&T.

But if that's what Apple want us to think then fine, I'm now happy with my Android.