iPhone 4s Battery Life?

First, NO, I am not an employee of Apple (or anyone at this time), and have no relationship with Apple other than owning a 4S, which is my first Apple product, ever.

Sorry, but some people here DO have unreasonable expectations. It's a fact.

I have NEVER said anyone didn't have a battery problem if it was obvious that they did. I have suggested that several people return their phones for a new one. But people who complain that 4 or 5 days standby isn't enought since the specs say UP TO 200 hours, they should be getting that. That's 'unreasonable expectation."

I never mentioned people playing games until their phone died. I don't care WHAT people do on their phones, or computers, or just how they use them, but turning on GPS, running a 3D game, and playing music at the same time WILL sap the battery in record time. You can't get something for nothing.

enx23 wrote:

@rphunte42

rphunte42 wrote:

You are rude, and your comments are not appreciated.

AliAR wrote:

Before December 20th, I had 3-4% battery drainage on standby in 7 hours during my sleep. You think 20% is good compared to 3-4% for 7 hours overnight? I guess not. Still think my battery is "great"? You got to know more facts about users before you post. I suggest you keep your mouth shut and stop criticising people, ignorant *******.

rphunte42, I find your comments most of the time very unsensitive to the people's problems!

Your comments basically blames most of the time the people and very very few times the iPhone 4S!!! You just assume that people who have problems with the battery of iPhone 4S do not know how to use a phone and what to expect from a phone!

Again, rphunte42, this forum is not about how the people are using iPhone 4S!!!! This forum is about complains regarding the battery life of the iPhone 4S!!!! Here most of the people are comparing the battery life of:

1) iPhone 4S versus iPhone 4,

2) iPhone 4S versus iPhone 3GS,

3) iPhone 4S versus whatever-phone-you-want.

Rphunte42, this forum is not about telling to people who own an iPhone 4S that:

1) they have unreasonable expectations, and

2) their iPhone 4S has no battery life problem when they clearly state that they do have one, and

3) they play games on their iPhone 4s until it dies!

Are you RPHUNTE42 expecting or will you get any financial benefits or gifts from Apple in the future? (I have asked this question from you before but I got no answer)

Please stop suggesting tips like the ones Apple suggests.

Those are the basic ones...after 592 pages those tips have been explained, suggested, and tried to exaustion with no sucess (maybe because the problem has nothing to do with that!). Sure they will give you extra minutes of battery time...but what's being discussed here, after all these pages, is way over that! Can't be fixed like that...it's another completely different problem.

P.S. I understand that there will be users who won't read all the pages (since it's such a long topic), but bear with us...

Peace!

It could also be that your service provider didn't configure your SIM card properly for the area you are in. Maybe that's (no SIM) how Apple got their 200 hours standby....

EdiMC wrote:

UPDATE:

Well, would you look at that??!!

After removing the SIM Card (now i basically have a heavier iPod touch standing there lol), the Waiting/Usage time are now correct and i'm seeing a good battery behaviour...

Waiting time - 11hours;

Usage time - 9 minutes;

Still have 95%.

Could it be the SIM??? It's a new one (already had 2 because of "No SIM/Invalid SIM" issue)...

This shows that the battery itself is fine, and it's not the problem...

Now, is it the SIM? Is it the phone (SIM tray, the SIM reader...or something like that)? Or is it just a compability issue, caused by a hardware problem, software problem, or both?

The main problem is that this isn't easy to narrow down!

But, at least, now i know for sure that the battery itself is ok!

If you can, try it and see what happens...

Best regards

rphunte42 - when you say they probably didn't configure the SIM properly, what do you mean by that?

Some people are just never satisfied. First people complain about no toggle, then they restore that feature, and someone complains about that. Glad I don't run Apple....

Jameson! wrote:

The fact that APPLE has re-instated the 3G toggle for 5.1 beta 3 concerns me greatly. It tells me that they have been unable to solve the problem with firmware mods and are implementing this band-aid as a fix. Looks to me like the 4s is doomed to be what we see here and all we can do is wait for iPhone 5...... 😢

dannywonglh wrote:

Hi, has anyone updated 4S to latest 5.1 beta 3? Is there any improvement for battery life on 4S for this latest beta?

To me it's fine...the switch was usefull and, to me, it's a good adition.

Mainly because that way, we will be REALLY sure, that the 3G is off...dedicated switches are always better than one that adresses to 2 or more functions at the same time...

593 pages and now we're going to have to endure comments worthy of a teenage girl?

rphunte42 wrote:

Some people are just never satisfied. First people complain about no toggle, then they restore that feature, and someone complains about that. Glad I don't run Apple....

Jameson! wrote:

The fact that APPLE has re-instated the 3G toggle for 5.1 beta 3 concerns me greatly. It tells me that they have been unable to solve the problem with firmware mods and are implementing this band-aid as a fix. Looks to me like the 4s is doomed to be what we see here and all we can do is wait for iPhone 5...... 😢

dannywonglh wrote:

Hi, has anyone updated 4S to latest 5.1 beta 3? Is there any improvement for battery life on 4S for this latest beta?

enx23 wrote:

@rphunte42

rphunte42 wrote:

Sorry to disabuse you of this notion, but NOT ALL USERS HAVE BATTERY ISSUES! Mine works just fine,

Of course not all iPhone 4S have battery issues! By chance one would expect that at least one iPhone 4S to have no battery life issues!

Mine works just fine,

How do you know that your iPhone 4S has the expected battery life when:

1) you just wrote in one of your posts that you charge your iPhone 4S everytime during the day when you have the opportunity, and

2) you spend so much time in front of you computer on this forum?

I NEVER said that I charge it at every opportunity, only that I COULD if I needed to, and so can the vast number of users.

Maybe as much as you. I'm retired, and I have lots of time.

unless you believe that all the articles about the 4S written by various people over the world are just lies.

Wawww.... Just because an article does not match your opinion regarding your belowed-working-iPhone4s it means that is a lie! It is clear that one has a problem accepting that iPhone 4S has issues!

You need to learn to READ. You claim everyone, or most users, have complaints about battery life, and that is NOT consistent with the majority of reviews that never mention it, or actually praise the battery life.

Does that mean no one has battery issues? Certainly not.

Now you are just contradicting yourself!

No, I NEVER said no one has battery issues.

Some have pretty obivous hardware issues, and others seem to have 'rogue tasks' running that sap the battery and run up the 'usage' figures beyond reason.

If it is iOS bug, apps bugs, hardware issues it is still Apple fault! The point is that iPhone 4s and iOS 5.X.X which is installed on it has battery life issues and it is the duty of Apple to acknowledge it and fix it!

They will, but not today, and not in the next 4 minutes. Give them time to work out what the problem is, what the fix(es) might be, and then to TEST them (so as not to cause other, maybe worse problems), and then to get the fixes out to the users. It's not a water faucet, but a complex electronic device. You can't fix it with a screwdriver and a new washer.

Others seem to have unreasonable expectations.

Again, if people complain here about their battery life of iPhone 4S being shorter than on iPhone 4 then it is not about unreasonable expectations!

Should one fall on his/her back because of iPhone 4S? I do not think so! In the end of the day it is a product with specifications and the seller should provice accurate specifications for real life situations!

Ok. Point to just ONE phone with accurate specifications on battery life.

If you are in the first two categories, you certainly deserve a fix, whether hardware, or software.

How one can get a fix if in the first place the issue is not even acknowledged?

When we will get a permanent fix for the battery life of iPhone 4S? Next year? The iPhone 4S has been realeased last year and even this year there is not a definitive fix for all iPhone 4S issues!!!

Oh, yes, it's really late in 2012. It is completely obvious you have no concept of how large companies work, or the scale of this kind of operation, or the technical aspects of the question.

Yes, yours.

Jameson! wrote:

593 pages and now we're going to have to endure comments worthy of a teenage girl?

rphunte42 wrote:

Some people are just never satisfied. First people complain about no toggle, then they restore that feature, and someone complains about that. Glad I don't run Apple....

Jameson! wrote:

The fact that APPLE has re-instated the 3G toggle for 5.1 beta 3 concerns me greatly. It tells me that they have been unable to solve the problem with firmware mods and are implementing this band-aid as a fix. Looks to me like the 4s is doomed to be what we see here and all we can do is wait for iPhone 5...... 😢

dannywonglh wrote:

Hi, has anyone updated 4S to latest 5.1 beta 3? Is there any improvement for battery life on 4S for this latest beta?

Especially when it's a bit 'fuzzy' what the meaning of 'cellular data' really is.

I doubt I will need it, but I don't object to options.

EdiMC wrote:

To me it's fine...the switch was usefull and, to me, it's a good adition.

Mainly because that way, we will be REALLY sure, that the 3G is off...dedicated switches are always better than one that adresses to 2 or more functions at the same time...

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3491623?answerId=17259821022#17259821022

I think this is the right reference. Also has to do with the serial number issue. It seems that the 'phantom process' that keeps incrementing usage is SIM related.

EdiMC wrote:

rphunte42 - when you say they probably didn't configure the SIM properly, what do you mean by that?

@rphunte42

You refuse for the second time to answer the question if you will get some financial benefits or gifts from Apple in the future? One can still get nice gifts from Apple without being an Apple employee!!!

It is very clear that refusing to answer this question twice, Apple will send you RPHUNTE42 some nice gifts and/or financial benefits soon for the great job (i.e. telling that is people's fault and not the iPhone4s) which you are doing here on this forum!

I am amazed at the people on here taking up for Apple They must be Apple troll employees .First we buy a new phone that is suppose to work. Well it does not due to battery drain. No matter how you cut it we are sold a faulty product that a company knew was faulty but sold anyway and continues to sell. If any of us had a small business and did this we would go to jail for fraud and obtaining money under false pretenses. I saw an apple 4s add this morning talking about siri and I cloud I had to laugh .Never did they mention we have a serious flaw that our engineers can not fix. All these turn this off turn that off is just nuts I bought a phone to work not to work on

All these so called fixes that do not work would be like me buying a New car and the engine stops working and the manufacture tells me just turn the head lights off it will be fine.......

I have stated at least twice that I have no relationship to Apple other than having bought ONE Apple product, which is the iPhone 4S Frankly, I have a long-standing dislike for the company since 1976, and continue to dislike the company for several reasons, mostly historic. I get nothing from Apple, want nothing from Apple, and would accept nothing it is were offered.

Glad you think I am doing a great job, but I don't want a job, don't need a job, as I am retired, and have been since 2003..

Please acknowledge this post so you can put this ridiculos idea to bed for good.

enx23 wrote:

@rphunte42

You refuse for the second time to answer the question if you will get some financial benefits or gifts from Apple in the future? One can still get nice gifts from Apple without being an Apple employee!!!

It is very clear that refusing to answer this question twice, Apple will send you RPHUNTE42 some nice gifts and/or financial benefits soon for the great job (i.e. telling that is people's fault and not the iPhone4s) which you are doing here on this forum!

enx23 wrote:

@rphunte42

You refuse for the second time to answer the question if you will get some financial benefits or gifts from Apple in the future? One can still get nice gifts from Apple without being an Apple employee!!!

It is very clear that refusing to answer this question twice, Apple will send you RPHUNTE42 some nice gifts and/or financial benefits soon for the great job (i.e. telling that is people's fault and not the iPhone4s) which you are doing here on this forum!

To respond to the second part of your message. I have, repeatedly, said that SOME users have hardware issues, and others seem to have 'rogue processes' that don't shut down and run all the time, eating battery power. I don't understand why you can't seem to SEE those statements. And, yes, SOME people have unreasonable expecations. Anyone who takes seriously the 'up to xxx' in advertising probably also believes that someone in Nigeria is just out of the blue going to deposit 4.5 million in their bank account, and sends them the info....