problem after iOS5 with pairing iPhone with Car

I have a Lexus is250 which paired beautifully with my iPhone and I was able to play music from phone in my car. Since the upgrade, I cannot. I have "repaired" "Blue tooth audio", the radio in car "looks" like it is playing (you can use the controls on the car stereo to forward through playlist and it forwards on phone" but no sound comes out. This worked perfectly fine before iOS. Any ideas? I've deleted and re-paired phone twice....

iPhone 4, iOS 5

Posted on Oct 17, 2011 7:42 PM

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Nov 27, 2011 7:50 PM in response to lisafrommanteca

It is not just the iOS5. It is the hardware. My 3Gs with iOS5 worked fine with my 2011 Lexus RX350, (well actually, there were some issues related to going back and forth between Bluetoothing phone and music). Just got a new 4s and now there is no connectivity between it and the car. Yes, the Lexus software could use some updating in general and the iPhone 3Gs would announce that this "accessory". (my RX350!) was "not compatible". But it now appears that with the same iOS, the 3Gs worked but not the 4s, so it is an Apple issue and not Lexus. Apple needs to fix the iOS software such that when running a 4s, it will be backwards compatible with the car Bluetooth. Very unhappy until Apple fixes this!

Dec 3, 2011 4:12 PM in response to KiltedTim

Certain automotive manufacturers are slow to release upgrades to their audio and bluetooth systems. The amount of channels to go through to get an update done can be challenging. That being said, the IOS update to 5.0.1 in effect changed the way bluetooth audio systems in Lexus models operated. For example, when using a 2011 IS250, my iphone 4 (running 5.0.1) will connect initially for both phone use and bluetooth audio. When switching to another audio mode, such as CD or satellite radio, then BACK to bluetooth audio, the vehicle does not "see" the iphone's bluetooth audio capability. The phone will still work correctly. The audio player fuction must be "re-connected". I have tried this with all 2011 Lexus models, and it operates the same on each vehicle. It is a bug in the 5.0.1 upgrade, and I'm hopeful this will be corrected by Apple. I have reported the issue. I work directly for a Lexus dealer, and I can assure you, I am no idiot.

Dec 4, 2011 7:34 PM in response to lisafrommanteca

So I'm pleased to report this evening that I have resolved the issue. I was lucky enough to have my neighbor's iPhone 4S units, and mine as well, all experiencing the issue, so I have several reproduceable test cases.


The symptoms were as described in the original poster's note. It looks like the song is playing, but nothing plays. You'll also find that trying to play the same music through the headphones, often, but not always causes the issue. And in my cases, Siri is unable to start playback of music. Note that this issue can effect users that connect their iPhone to their car via a USB cable as well.


The symptoms that trigger this tend to cluster around a few common issues:

- You are an upgrader and setup your new device from a backup in iCloud

- You are upgrading an existing device where you did a restore, and then the restore was from iCloud

- When you visit "Purchased" on the device, and then select "Not on this iPhone" you see a list of missing tracks; yet when you do a sync (whether over Wifi or cable) to your computer, it reports everything synced correctly. If you try to download the tracks on the device itself, some will constantly reappear as needing to be redownloaded, even though they are present

- The device appears to be able to randomly play a track only later to refuse to play the track. The symptom is that the device appears to be playing, but the timeline is frozen

- Often, when the issue occurs, the device reports "XXX items could not be synced" and then reports that you should check iTunes for more information -- except iTunes shows no further information


If any, or all of these items are occuring, there's one place to check to see if you've been bitten by what I like to call the partial restore/sync bug with iCloud:


- While selecting the device in iTunes on your computer, attached via a cable, click on the device. To the left of the device name, should be a small triangle. If you cannot see items beneath the device name (like Music, Apps, Books) click on the triangle. Next, select Music. When you see the list of the tracks on the device, you'll see a column on the left side which may be populated by small "sync-like" symbols next to the track names. The song will often be ghosted out.

- If you see this condition, which I call the "zombie state" -- you are effected by the problem. The issue is that iTunes thinks the device will download the songs and doesn't write them on a sync; it's as if "placeholder" files are there, but not all the data. Interestingly, removing all music from the device and resyncing it doesn't clear the problem. And there's no way to get the device to "restart" downloading these items from the cloud. So far, every user with this problem did an iCloud restore which got interrupted before all the music and apps could download. The most common cause is an interruption in WiFi.


So far, in my testing the only reliable way to clear this conditon is to do the following, all while tethered to your desktop computer:


- Do a complete backup to the computer

- Do a restore

- Do NOT restore from the iCloud backup, instead, wait for iTunes to sense the device and offer you the "Setup as new" or "Restore from a previous backup"

- Restore from the backup you just created and sync


Re-check the music section of the device upon completion; you should see no items in the zombie state.


In my testing this evening, the device performed as expected, with no issues around device control, Siri, or track selection.


Hope this helps,

Matt

Dec 17, 2011 9:27 PM in response to lisafrommanteca

I'm having a different problem with my Audi A6 (2006) which used to also sinc beautifully. I've only tried once to sinc music, which failed. I usually use the phone. During a call the bluetooth will drop and the call will proceed over the phone - which I will now have to go off hands free and grab the phone to continue the conversation - and if the radio was on, it will begin playing over the speakers. Then a minute or so later, the call will reconnect with bluetooth. Wacky!

Feb 2, 2012 11:21 AM in response to lisafrommanteca

I am having similar issues. Iphone 4 worked fine w/ bluetooth in 08 Highlander. Then I got an Iphone 4S. Now, bluetooth use is spotty at best. Car recognizes and pairs/connects as hands free, but when I try to make a call using steering controls about 90-95% of the time the system looks like the call is going through, but never does. The NAV screen shows the name of number of who I am calling, but the call just sort of lags in no-where land. No way to talk and no connection is ever achieved. Apple says it is a Toyota problem. I have swapped out 3 different Iphone 4S and got a new SIM card so I don't know what to do now.

Apr 4, 2012 2:16 AM in response to lisafrommanteca

I've just picked up my new Chevy Captiva, and am having a real problem getting the Bluetooth to work with my iPhone4. Constantly loops connecting and disconnecting. I never had a chance to test it on a previous iOS as i've only just got the car. I'm running 5.1.


I guess I'm happy that its not a problem unique to me, but not so happy that it seems to have been going on for a while...

Apr 9, 2012 10:37 PM in response to Steven_K

iOS 5 doesn't work with many cars' bluetooth systems and Apple don't care about that at all - they don't acknowledge the problem and don't give any help or advice. So, I am waiting for Chevrolet to update their bluetooth system in Captiva (probably never) before I upgrade my iPhone 4 to iOS 5. With iOS 4 it works perfectly 🙂 , but many iOS 5 functions you can't use - like iCloud synchronizing with iPhone is now dead 😟

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