iCloud mail - POP client password issue?

Mark Gibson7 wrote:

We both want to get them the same way (via “POP”) and having to migrate to IMAP is a PITA for her, me and several other posters here.

I just listed the number of messages to give an idea of the magnitude of the PITA.

What do I say, if POP is important to you then don't use iCloud.

I feel you. In my opinion, the three greatest MobileMe features are being killed with the transition to iCloud. First is iDisk, which is great for sharing files with others, second is Galleries, which is single handedly the easiest way to share photos that I've come across, and last is POP support for mail. Of course, what you're getting for your subscription is a $99 per year discount, as iCloud is free as opposed to MobileMe. But still, I would gladly pay to keep those three features.

Mark Gibson7 wrote:

And that may well be where we end up.

However if Apple had said up front that iCloud didn’t support POP (as opposed to running it for some 6 weeks or so and then just cutting it off) I wouldn’t have bothered in the first place.

No POP spt for mail, no iDisk equivalent, no web domain hosting, ....

Sort of makes me wonder what I do get for my subscription.

I agree with that point, I haven't used a POP system for years so I did not notice that iCloud started with the same POP functionality as Mobile Me, but I guess it was not intended for the long term.

Use iMap, make local folders to allow for differences and just sync the bits that need syncing, that's what I would do.

🙂

That sadly is not possible... All the people who did go to iCloud can not revert back. I made a work around to have all my mobile me mail forwarded to my google mail, who does support pop.

This way I can keep using pop... I think it really is user unfriendly to make people swap to a system they don't want nor need. I was perfectly happy with pop, had no problems between phone, laptop and desktop. Now it is all messed up and it will probably take a while for it to stabilize again.

I think we do need to go to the stores and complain... There are a lot of people out there who like pop. Why can't we have the choice so everybody can be happy? Why does apple care about how we read our mail?

Another thing: what is the deal with all our mail on their servers? I do not need any cloud for my mail, I want it at home on my harddrive...

Catherine Lucas wrote:

That sadly is not possible... All the people who did go to iCloud can not revert back. I made a work around to have all my mobile me mail forwarded to my google mail, who does support pop.

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Where did I say revert back? I gave you a way to get the functionality you require using iCloud & Lion?

Mark, I am not sure why we keep going around in circles but

ALL MAIL CLIENTS SUPPORT IMAP

So please stop with the "Sure, if your email client supports IMAP" line

Csound1 wrote:

Mark, I am not sure why we keep going around in circles but

ALL MAIL CLIENTS SUPPORT IMAP

So please stop with the "Sure, if your email client supports IMAP" line

Sorry. Not all email clients support IMAP.

One example, Mailsmith originally by Barebones software but nowby Stickshift Software. Does not, never has, never will support IMAP. This is a Mac-only app.

There may be more, but it only takes one as a counter-example.

OK, I have no more input for you, If you use Mailsmith you will have to use POP

Goodbye

Mark Gibson7 wrote:

We both want to get them the same way (via “POP”) and having to migrate to IMAP is a PITA for her, me and several other posters here.

I just listed the number of messages to give an idea of the magnitude of the PITA.

I don't like it either, am dependent on POP and have put my vote in with Apple to turn the POP allowed flag back on for iCloud folks, but in the meantime, I've imlemented a trivial work-around (took 5 minutes) that got iCloud mail flowing to my POP client just like before (mostly).

Using the "set up a special gmail account, turn POP on for that, go to iCloud mail and add a rule to forward all mail to that new address" approach. Then I set up my POP email client to check that POP account.

All iCloud mail flows into my POP client just like before (same from address, etc). I set up the special gmail account on my POP client to reply using the me.com address.

Exactly the same user experience as before. Indetectible unless I examine the email headers.

While waiting, go ahead and set this up so you can keep your POP mail store up-to-date. If Apple relents, kill the gmail forwarding.

from this knowledge base article (at the end):

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4864

Additional Information

SSL is required for both IMAP and SMTP connection with iCloud. POP is not supported by iCloud.

Csound1 wrote:

OK, I have no more input for you, If you use Mailsmith you will have to use POP

Goodbye

No more false input? Excellent. Gooding bye is a great choice for you then.

The google way is indeed a good solution. I did that the day before yesterday already and have been happy again. I am not sure if my phone is working as it should, but hopefully it will soon work out. I am still hoping with others that pop will be reinstituted...