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can't add a new account to mail

Hello all,

Hope to get some help with this annoying and frustrating situation.


I need to create a gmail account in mail v4.5 because I'll be moving from my current location and prefer not to have to access gamil through safari.

I am prevented to get the new account to be online, no matter how many times I try to do this.

First there was an issue with mail not being able to verify gmail's certificate; I thought I overcame this by clickung on view certificate aan accepting it.


Then, all gmail account settings settings were input following gamil help pages; whether I set the account to be an IMAP (as recommended by gmail) or a POP account, mail could not get the account online: it keeps being offline.


I deleted the account just created and created a new one with the same result.


Mail gives me this alert: Logging in to the Gmail IMAP server “imap.gmail.com” failed. Make sure the user name and password you entered are correct, then click Continue. If the information isn’t correct, you cannot receive messages.


Both user name and password are correct, but useless. Nevertheless, I click on "continue" and the result is the same.


There is no problem with network; I can get online with safari, and firefox.


I just don't know what to do, and no help from google is possible, at least not for this issue; help for gmail through a browser is plentiful though, but trying to ask something that is not on the menu as set by google is totally impossible.


Does anyone have a solution?


I'll be very thankful for any help I can get.


Regards

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 4GB DDR3-HP scanner, printer-WF HD

Posted on Jan 28, 2012 4:55 PM

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Posted on Jan 28, 2012 8:48 PM

Since Gmail IMAP accounts do work, then from the information we have, the logical assumption is that something in your account setup is incorrect; otherwise it would work. Have you checked everthing very carefully against what Google says you should have set for Incoming and Outgoing servers, Port numbers, Password Authentication, etc.? Check it again.


Also, is there some reason you need to have an IMAP account? Google might recommend it, but it's not what it's cracked up to be, so don't put too much stock in their recommendation. I've always found it to be a pain in the arse, and it does impose more overhead on your computer and email client. Unless there's some compelling reason you need to store all your mail on Gmail's servers (i.e., you need, not want, to access your mail from different devices in different locations), I'd ditch the IMAP idea and setup a POP account; there are instructions in Gmail Help for that, albeit somewhat dated:


https://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=181714

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Jan 30, 2012 11:49 AM in response to kurt188

kurt188 wrote:


Based on what you describe, I have to ask: What is the total capacity of your hard drive, and how much free space do you have left? That information could indicate the source of the problem.

HD capacity 500 GB nominal

Free space 400 GB



It's also possible there may be something wrong with your Mac's hard drive, so you should boot from the Snow Leopard disc, then use Disk Utility to Repair Disk and see what it reports, repairs, or if anything can't be repaired.

I did it, and DU says the HD "appears to be OK"

Jan 30, 2012 1:09 PM in response to Ruben Tomasov

Okay, the hard drive looks fine, so I see two things left that we could do:


1. You can delete your regular user account and make the test account your normal one, then restart the Mac and see if the long startup problems continue.

2. Whether or not the startup problems continue, you could choose to do a full erase of your hard drive (if you have a backup) and then reinstall Snow Leopard from scratch.


It's up to you which one you want to try.

Jan 30, 2012 1:36 PM in response to kurt188

kurt188 wrote:


Okay, the hard drive looks fine, so I see two things left that we could do:


1. You can delete your regular user account and make the test account your normal one, then restart the Mac and see if the long startup problems continue.

2. Whether or not the startup problems continue, you could choose to do a full erase of your hard drive (if you have a backup) and then reinstall Snow Leopard from scratch.


It's up to you which one you want to try.

First, I'll try #1 and see how it behaves.


Then, if it goes the same way, I won't have an alternative but #2 (BTW one more time: I've already done it twice since I got the iMac home in late June, 2011).


Thank you Kurt; I'll let you know what is the outcome.

Regards

Jan 30, 2012 1:51 PM in response to Ruben Tomasov

BTW one more time: I've already done it twice since I got the iMac home in late June, 2011

You erased the hard drive and then reinstalled, or you just reinstalled? Something's not right on your system; maybe you have too little RAM, maybe it's something in the install itself. But if you erase the hard drive and then reinstall, that would at least eliminate any remnant of the old stuff as a possible cause of the problem.


If you have to do that, the first thing you should do right away is update to 10.6.8, then restart your system (assuming it doesn't make you do that anyway).

Jan 30, 2012 2:43 PM in response to kurt188

kurt188 wrote:


BTW one more time: I've already done it twice since I got the iMac home in late June, 2011

You erased the hard drive and then reinstalled, or you just reinstalled? Something's not right on your system; maybe you have too little RAM, maybe it's something in the install itself. But if you erase the hard drive and then reinstall, that would at least eliminate any remnant of the old stuff as a possible cause of the problem.


If you have to do that, the first thing you should do right away is update to 10.6.8, then restart your system (assuming it doesn't make you do that anyway).

Yes, something is not right in my system.

I've erased and then reinstalled the OS, both times but, it seems it didn't eliminate any old stuff.

I had then 4GB RAM installed in the computer (I now have 8GB RAM).

I have always had OS X 10.6.8

Jan 30, 2012 3:19 PM in response to kurt188

kurt188 wrote:


Let me know how it turns out with Option 1. If you do have to reinstall, be sure to Secure Erase the hard drive (zero it out, which will take hours) and then reinstall when that's done.

Thanks, I'll let you know once I'm done with option 1.

As a matter of fact, that is exactly how I've done it before: zero out all data, gone out for lunch somewhere, took a long walk, came back, and it was still erasing 😁

Regards

Feb 7, 2012 6:29 AM in response to kurt188

kurt188 wrote:


Let me know how it turns out with Option 1. If you do have to reinstall, be sure to Secure Erase the hard drive (zero it out, which will take hours) and then reinstall when that's done.

Hi Kurt,

It took me sometime to get to where I am now si as be able to report to you on the issue. Sorry to have kept you waiting 😝

The story goes like this:

  1. I was reluctant to follow your recommendation and delete my OS X account; I called Apple Care instead and explained all that was going wrong with my computer (I've already listed the problems before on this thread.)
  2. I was instructed to reinstall the system and to only use Apple applications, no third party applications because some of those may be the source of the problems I was experiencing, and use the computer normally for a week or so and report back
  3. I did as instructed after zeroing all data in the HD, and no problem like the ones I was having before occurred again.
  4. Reported to Apple Care after using the computer for a bout a week, and went over the Mail/Gmail issue while having my computer connected to Apple Care's site so as to let them see what was going on.
  5. I was instructed to create an IMAP Gmail account (even though I insisted that it had to be a POP account.)
  6. The Gmail account was created and I was able to see all messages in that account.
  7. The discussion with Apple Care was finished after this and I was not able to send a message from Gmail, nor to make it the default account, just as it happened before; the same problems with the certificate, prompts to enter password, etc. (BTW, I couldn't see the certificate in Keychain access so that I could delete it.)
  8. I deleted the IMAP Gmail account and tried to create a POP account, without success. Everything is as described on 7, above.


So, now I am exactly at the same point I was before, although the OS seems to be working fine. Maybe I should not ask for more than this.

What can you tell me now?

Thanks a lot.
Regards

Feb 7, 2012 11:49 AM in response to kurt188

kurt188 wrote:


the same problems with the certificate

What certificate are you referring to?

The certificate is the one Apple Mail looks into to see whether it comes from a trusted source.

I added a screen shot on my reply to one of your previous posts (refer to my reply of Jan 29, 2012 3:52 PM) that shows it.

I deleted the IMAP Gmail account and tried to create a POP account, without success.


Have you tried setting up a test account and creating a Gmail POP account? If not, give that a try.

I have done better than that; it could probably have been serendipity but, in the end I've got my Gmail account in Apple Mail.

When Mail jumped up saying that it could not trust the certificate, I clicked on "show", then found that I could override Mail's refusal to accept it by indicating something like "always trust it", and presto! I now finally have Gmail in Apple Mail 🙂


Thank you so much for all your help; best regards

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