10.0.3 DISASTEROUS

I'll do some more checking today to really be sure, but I'm still waiting a long time for renders; last project I opened had two short titles to render at the beginning and end of the project and it took almost 2 minutes to complete - not exactly speedy in my book. It did seem to play back better while rendering though...who knows, I'm so burnt out after the last 2+ weeks of trial and error and I'm just sick of it all...

What's the best/safest way to revert back to 10.0.2?

Yes I do. But if I use that does EVERYTHING get setback or can I choose? I did just update FCP, Compressor and the (lovely) OS.

montster wrote:

AWESOME PO!!!! Junk yard DAWWWWWWWG to be sure! We both have the exact same setup now - even monitor (minus the TB drives though). Great stuff!

BUT be wary of 10.0.3 IT IS >>>>>>NOT<<<<<<< a step UP from 10.0.2 regardless of some that insist on everything Apple does being justified somehow or another. FORGET about multi cam for now......Thats the latest from la la land buddy! 😉

what do you mean forget 10.0.3? multicam is everything i do. i hardly do any single cam at all. does this mean i would be without multicam? if that's a "yes" then i have to cancel everything because we do about 1-3 videos a week here (sometimes over 150 a year) and at least 80% of what we do is 2, 3, or 4 cameras AND i am selling my macpro and other macbook pro. so, if there is a prob with multicam and the macbook pro 2.5 i must knows. maybe i should get the 2.4 instead if it is a 2.5 thing?

A BIG (repeat, BIG) issue is if you have upgraded from 10.0.2 to 10.0.3. All of your prior work may have issues with titles requiring re-rendering every time you quit and restart FCPX. That is a HUGE waste of time. And I have tried Digital Rebellion's various apps, tried manually deleting previous render files, caches, used FCPX's delete render files, tried making an edit in the project, then rendering again. Bottom line, nothing has worked. Every previous project with titles requires a complete re-rendering of any titles every time you reopen the app.

Massive slowdown in workflow. Basically you cannot quit the app. Your rendering will be lost. And if Apple comes back with a sugestion to go back and rebuild every title, I think I will send them the bill!

montster wrote:

.... whats most amazing is that there is no official admission anywhere as to the faults and issues that are obviously known. Where is that??? ....

Obviously not outside this thread ..... 😁

montster wrote:

There is no "problem" with a 2.5 , 2.4 or whatever. I recommend the 2.5 for the extra cache and speed and THAT is ONE issue in itself. Not related to multicam or not.

If you need multicam - you should use 10.0.3. It is one of the best ideas for multicam editing I have ever seen actually. Thats it on that front.

Regarding SPEED and PERFORMANCE between 10.0.2 and 10.0.3 just be aware, that 10.0.3 is SLOWER to use than the previous verion '02. Nothing to do with whether you should get this 2.5 or 2.4. That it on that front......

maybe there is this difference of projects started under 10.0.2 and then continued editing in 10.0.3 that are making slooooooow down issues like i seem to be reading from some of the people posting here and elsewhere ? that is, have you tried starting a new project under 10.0.3, especially a multicam project, and see how it performs?

one thing for certain it seems, maybe for now i will just use fcs3 and wait on the download of fcpx like prob 1/2 the pro market has done until we get this feeling that fcp x has earned the title of fcp x instead of as some say final cut only. :-(

I just want to add that this thread is surely one of the most informative ones. A bit intense - but that is what generates all this positive energy. Karsten watch what you say because comments get reported all the time, and my comments are totally relative and referring to this thread and only this thread.

As for what is going on with me just in case anyone noticed. In essence of confirming, reaffirming, and having more than one "experimental" workstation/user as an indicator to the validity of the above; I beg to state what my situation is as well, as follows:

My system: iMac 3.4 i7, 16GB RAM, 2GB GPU, 27", with external WD Firewire 800, and contemplating an internal Intel 510 SSD (just to completely jazz things up)

I shoot cinematic style events with a Canon DSLR and a Sony HXR-NX5U, all 1080p at 24fps.

I import the footage raw, use proxy media to edit ( but here I have to wait for the transcoding to complete, which takes a while) but once its done the setup flies! All this is solely in 10.0.3. However, I had one project that I converted to .3 from .2 which was **** for me to spit out! But I managed to do it - you just needed patience.

Like MONSTER says working solely in 10.0.3 is ok, but a bit slower, however, just like in 10.0.2 it is unfortunately better to wait for some of the background rendering to finish (some things still need to be worked out)

One big major difference as well, which I consider a DISASTER (on topic!), and I haven't read anything about this yet, is as follows: Exporting to H.264 is a lot slower than what it was in .2? Is anyone else experiencing this?

(So this is my two cents, which need no comments from anyone as to weather they are relevant or not. Just read it, and if you don't like it ignore it - its as simple as that)

But again this is the most valuable thread for me thus far (thanks for the "DISASTER" thread MONSTER) and I'm now willing to stay on the boat - because I love the philosophy in FCPX and in the end it works...most of the FC series had these little glitches where we had to find work arounds for. Its a matter of discovering and dealing with these, even though I also agree that these updates should have been a lot more considerate.