i need to download 10.7.0 (10.7.2 max), where does Apple keep earlier versions of OS?

i foolishly updated my MacPro and laptop to 10.7.3, but then discovered that it messed up some of my Pro apps like Nikon Capture NX2, which is only supposed to work on 10.7.2


i have been trying to find anyway to go back, and was informed that i had to erase and start from the OS that came with my mac


so i went back to 10.6.4, and have now updated to 10.6.8



then went to the App Store in order to update to 10.7.0, which i had already bought


but the App Store only offers me 10.7.3, and no earlier versions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


where can i get 10.7.0?


(i have the combo update which is available on the downloads of Apple website, but this is obviously no good without the base 10.7 already installed)


this appears to be a problem that Apple has created by not selling OS on discs anymore


HELP!!!!

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 12Gb 1333MHz DDR3 ram, ATI Radeon HD 5870 video card

Posted on Feb 17, 2012 1:42 PM

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Feb 18, 2012 1:35 AM in response to shldr2thewheel

@shldr2thewheel


since i am at present on 10.6.8 surely i can update to 10.7.0 and then to 10.7.2?


i had already worked out that i could not go backwards from 10.7.3 when i went into an Apple store yesterday, so i am trying to go forward, but it seems quite odd that i can not upgrade to 10.7.2 ONLY since some apps do not work with 10.7.3


and i DID HAVE a backup iof 10.7.2 when i backed up, but once i was on that there did not seem to be a problem, so i updated my backup to 10.7.3 - are you saying that the backup should always be an OS step behind the master? (in which case what about all the new work that one does in between backups, there would be no backups of that at all!)

Feb 18, 2012 1:36 AM in response to aaaashy

aaaashy wrote:


@shldr2thewheel


since i am at present on 10.6.8 surely i can update to 10.7.0 and then to 10.7.2?


No, it will only bring you to the most current version 10.7.3. Unless you have a Time Machine backup of when you were at 10.7.2, you can not roll back to that version of Lion.


(and i am not sure where Apple posts that i should have a backup that is still at 10.7.2 - i tend to back up fairly regularly, so my backup is at 10.7.3)


I recall when I ran software update and it showed 10.7.3, it advised to make a backup before making the update.

Feb 18, 2012 1:58 AM in response to aaaashy

aaaashy wrote:


@shldr2thewheel


since i am at present on 10.6.8 surely i can update to 10.7.0 and then to 10.7.2?


i had already worked out that i could not go backwards from 10.7.3 when i went into an Apple store yesterday, so i am trying to go forward, but it seems quite odd that i can not upgrade to 10.7.2 ONLY since some apps do not work with 10.7.3


and i DID HAVE a backup iof 10.7.2 when i backed up, but once i was on that there did not seem to be a problem, so i updated my backup to 10.7.3 - are you saying that the backup should always be an OS step behind the master? (in which case what about all the new work that one does in between backups, there would be no backups of that at all!)

I have always made a habit of keeping system updates on external drives, just for my own OCD ways. I downloaded Lion 10.7 and have also kept the updates since. I also have backups of the last few system updates, but do get rid of them after I realise the newer updated backups are all I require.


So where did I learn about backups and saving updates? By reading Apple Media and coming to the forum here and elsewhere and reading up on it. The serious Computer user should really make a concerted effort to protect their data and system set ups in the most secure way they can. An $80 1TB backup drive can be the difference between smooth transitions and reinstalls and problems as you are experiencing now.


Just some food for thought for the future. There is more often than not no second chances for system and drive crashes. Protect your data at all costs.


Good Luck


Pete

Feb 18, 2012 2:55 AM in response to aaaashy

The only way to do it would be to install the .3 version then once that finishes use the Recovery HD partition to Re-Download Lion to an external drive and follow the instruction on many websites to create a USB flash drive of the installer. Also download the Recovery Disk Assistant program to make another USB stick of the Recovery HD files before you start all of this.


Once you have the Lion Installer on the USB stick boot the computer from the Recovery HD partition or from the USB stick you made of the Recovery HD files and Wipe the drive one more time. Then do the Lin install from the USB stick that has the Lion installer on it.


As of a few days ago the download offered from booting the computer to the recovery HD was still on 10.7.2. So hopefully it is still offering that version. If not then you are stuck using 10.7.3


But in all honesty your Nikon NX2 software should run fine on this newer version as it isn't much different then the .2 version. At least not enough difference to break that software, It is still Lion and still 10.7.X.


Good Luck and best wishes.

Feb 18, 2012 2:58 AM in response to petermac87

@petermac87


but when you downloaded 10.7.0 were you able to KEEP that installer?


that is the one i require, and i do not think that the Apple Store downloads appear anywhere specific to be stored by the user .......... otherwise that is exactly what i would have done, automatically


i now have the combo 10.7.2 installer, but for that to work i require the 10.7.0 installer


as i meantioned earlier, this is a really weird loop i appear to be in

Feb 18, 2012 3:04 AM in response to aaaashy

No Apple has really screwed there users with this OS.


At no time, unless you fool the downloading and installing system, are you able to Keep the Install files.

Apple has made it so once the download finishes and the OS installs it deletes all the installer files from your hard drive.


The only way to do it is to download the installer and then STOP the files from restarting the computer and installiing the OS.

Then you can extract the InstallESD.DMG file from the sownload and create a USB installer thumb drive.


Pleas do a search for Create Lion USB install thumb drive and you will find many websites that explain how to make it.

Feb 18, 2012 3:14 AM in response to aaaashy

aaaashy wrote:


@petermac87


but when you downloaded 10.7.0 were you able to KEEP that installer?


that is the one i require, and i do not think that the Apple Store downloads appear anywhere specific to be stored by the user .......... otherwise that is exactly what i would have done, automatically


i now have the combo 10.7.2 installer, but for that to work i require the 10.7.0 installer


as i meantioned earlier, this is a really weird loop i appear to be in

Yes I was able to keep the installer. It was just a matter of copying it onto an external drive before installing it. The App Store has also changed the Lion Download now to 10.7.3


Pete

Feb 18, 2012 3:17 AM in response to petermac87

petermac87 wrote:


Yes I was able to keep the installer. It was just a matter of copying it onto an external drive before installing it. The App Store has also changed the Lion Download now to 10.7.3


Pete


But the download from the Recovery HD was still on 10.7.2 as of 3-5 days ago.


You can actually run the recovery hd downloader from inside Lion when it is booted by following this article.


http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110831105634716


Good Luck.

Feb 18, 2012 3:18 AM in response to Shootist007

Shootist007 wrote:


No Apple has really screwed there users with this OS.


At no time, unless you fool the downloading and installing system, are you able to Keep the Install files.

Apple has made it so once the download finishes and the OS installs it deletes all the installer files from your hard drive.


The only way to do it is to download the installer and then STOP the files from restarting the computer and installiing the OS.

Then you can extract the InstallESD.DMG file from the sownload and create a USB installer thumb drive.


Pleas do a search for Create Lion USB install thumb drive and you will find many websites that explain how to make it.

No, there was no fooling the system at all. You simply downloaded the installer, copied it elsewhere before installing it and you have a copy for good to make a DVD or USB installer from. There was no trick to it, it was widely discuss from the day (and actually BEFORE) the first release of Lion, that the install 'self destructed' after installing. So you could and can always keep the install files.


Pete

Feb 18, 2012 3:28 AM in response to petermac87

I'm sorry to disagree with you but unless you did something other then just downloading the Lion install files it would Restart the system Automatically and Start the install. Then at the end of the install process it would DELETE the install files.


You had to STOP the install in some way, Fool it, and then copy the installESD.DMG file to some other place so it would not get Automatically Deleted.


At no time does the normal downloading and installing process give any chance to save that file. There is no prompt of any kind that says anything like, "Would you like to save this file before the install begins". "If not then the files needed for the install will be deleted from your computer when it finishes".


Just because you had the foresight to make those changes so you could save the file does not mean that most people that use a Mac have that insight.

Feb 18, 2012 3:39 AM in response to Shootist007

Shootist007 wrote:


I'm sorry to disagree with you but unless you did something other then just downloading the Lion install files it would Restart the system Automatically and Start the install. Then at the end of the install process it would DELETE the install files.


You had to STOP the install in some way, Fool it, and then copy the installESD.DMG file to some other place so it would not get Automatically Deleted.


At no time does the normal downloading and installing process give any chance to save that file. There is no prompt of any kind that says anything like, "Would you like to save this file before the install begins". "If not then the files needed for the install will be deleted from your computer when it finishes".


Just because you had the foresight to make those changes so you could save the file does not mean that most people that use a Mac have that insight.

I'm sorry to disagree. You download the installer and it is saved as InstallESD.DMG in the Applications Folder. From there you open and install it, giving you a chance to save a copy elsewhere first. There was no automatic install. There would be using the recovery partition. So where did this idea of Auto Install come from? Search back through the forums here, it was well known from the start. Those that didn't know just didn't know, but that does not justify you saying it could not be done. I really don't understand your arguement. Sorry


Pete

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