Transfer purchases to another ID

guys, i wanna ask about transfering purchases to another ID.

my sister has an apple ID. now, she doesn't use any apple product anymore, but she has purchased many apps, now, i'm using her ipad, and i want to move her purchases to my account, due to, she dont want to tell me her ID password, any help?

or can i change the ownership of the apps?

iPad 2, iOS 5.0.1

Posted on Mar 6, 2012 5:48 PM

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Jan 6, 2014 5:37 AM in response to cchp

I take it back, this only works for some things. Songs, yes, but certain games, no. When he tries to play Simpsons Tapped Out under his new id, he gets a message that he must purchase the app again. Since he has spent 2 years and quite a bit of money on this game, he doesn't want to start again. I am so frustrated. I have spent countless hours on these darn gadgets. I don't even have an iphone and will not purchase any more Apple products.

Jan 23, 2014 12:07 PM in response to Lan_Holmes

Can't believe all those talking about stealing, they have something that doesn't compute in their brains or what!

It is evidently simple to understand: You buy something, you don't want to use it anymore, you transfer your right to use it to someone else. When I buy a Iphone 4 and I don't want it anymore I sell it to someone else and go buy a 5.

Right now, right here, the only one steeling something is Apple, they are stealing those apps from those who BOUGHT THEM!

Ok here's my issue, of course Apple has always been Corporations Clueless since always: they are so much focused Personal Usage they do nothing to help IT departments, I'm the IT here, all my employee have iphones, and they needed apps for their work, like Alarm system monitoring, Camera monitoring etc etc etc.

Now I have one employee that left the company and I will give his Iphone to his replacement but guess what CANT TRANSFER THE APPS!!! So all the money we have put in those apps have been STOLEN BY APPLE.

Of course: all his MICROSOFT SOFTWARES located on his (non Apple) Microsoft computer have been TRANSFERED to his replacement instantly... but the Apple apps have been stolen and again: by Apple!!!

I shouldn't have bought Apple equipment in the first place but that is another mather. Now I got to figure a way so that my Corporation don't get rip-off when other employee leaves and I'm stock with iPhones not apps. It should have been ridiculously simple to tie the apps store to the phone or something, or simply tie the purchases to the company and simply monitor the deployments like any Microsoft, McAfee, Autocad and any other real company software does, but doesn't seems Apple cares enough about ITs...

Jan 23, 2014 12:22 PM in response to Phil388

Can't believe all those talking about stealing, they have something that doesn't compute in their brains or what!about ITs...

If you actually read the original post, that was what the guy wanted to do, steal apps from someone else.

You buy something, you don't want to use it anymore, you transfer your right to use it to someone else. When I buy a Iphone 4 and I don't want it anymore I sell it to someone else and go buy a 5.

You didn't buy an app, you paid to license for a copy of an app. A copy that has no right to transfer to anyone else.

Now I have one employee that left the company and I will give his Iphone to his replacement but guess what CANT TRANSFER THE APPS!!! So all the money we have put in those apps have been STOLEN BY APPLE.

You went about it the wrong way. If your IT dept had set a corp owned Apple ID for that iPhone, instead of you allowing the employee to set up the phone with his personal Apple ID, you wouldn't be in this situation. All of those licensed copies of apps would be yours to pass to another employee who used the phone. Same with the Mac.

Jan 23, 2014 1:54 PM in response to Dah•veed

Dah•veed wrote:


Can't believe all those talking about stealing, they have something that doesn't compute in their brains or what!about ITs...

If you actually read the original post, that was what the guy wanted to do, steal apps from someone else.


Clearly Dah you have misread the point of the OP. The OP says, in short:

1. Sister bought software products and doesn't use them anymore

2. Brother wants to use them instead, and wants to transfer them to his account. Even if it isn't specified we can assume that he asked his sister and she is OK with it, since she is no longer using it and just doesn't want to give him the password to her account. (Which, by the way, isn't transferable also as I found out some time ago).

3. He can't use the products becasue they are tied to the ID of the sister and Apple doesn't allow a transfer


It's like saying I can't use the toy-car that my sister bought last year, because LEGO says I need to re-buy the toycar if I want to use it. Using toys from your brother, sister, or a friend who doesn't want it anymore has nothing to do with stealing - and a lot more to do with borrowing or getting a gift from someone. My younger sister and my cousins have all used my LEGO, Playmobil and other toys I got when I was younger and never has any corporation told my parents or me that it is illegal. Because it isn't.


In other words Apple is using it's strength as one of the world's most powerful corporation to force us into contracts that are consumer unfriendly to say the least, IMHO I'd go further and say that they are using oppressive contracts that are force fed to consumers. Yes you can choose not to use Apple and to use Google instead - but what kind of choice is that, considering that they aren't much better!


Saying that the OP is "stealing" is totally exxagerated and also, seriously, why would you NOT want to be able to transfer a license of software to someone else in the future? Why is it acceptable that Apple doesn't allow that?


Digital Rights Management simply has gone too far...

I once lived in Europe nd I had a huge DVD collection. I then moved to Asia and suddendly I'm not allowed to see my purchased DVD's on Asian DVD players! Basically I have the choice of 1. re-purchasing all the DVD's, 2. Using a cracked DVD player (which is illegal) 3. Downloading the DVD's (again illegal). In what way is that fair?


This has nothing to do with being a fan of Apple (considfering your very biased answer I suspect you are a fan). This is about reason and actually, come to think of it: about consumer protection

Jan 23, 2014 2:05 PM in response to Frederic Nitschke

Frederic Nitschke wrote:


Saying that the OP is "stealing" is totally exxagerated



Maybe you missed this part:

Lan_Holmes wrote:


due to, she dont want to tell me her ID password

The OP wants something that his sister isn't willing to turn over, sounds like stealing to me.



Frederic Nitschke wrote:


I once lived in Europe nd I had a huge DVD collection. I then moved to Asia and suddendly I'm not allowed to see my purchased DVD's on Asian DVD players!

You're not "allowed" to play the DVDs because of a difference in technology (PAL vs. NTSC), not DRM.

Jan 23, 2014 2:46 PM in response to rockmyplimsoul

rockmyplimsoul wrote:


Frederic Nitschke wrote:


Saying that the OP is "stealing" is totally exxagerated




Maybe you missed this part:

Lan_Holmes wrote:


due to, she dont want to tell me her ID password

The OP wants something that his sister isn't willing to turn over, sounds like stealing to me.


Clearly you are missing the point - I would never share the password of any account, to anyone not even to a brother or sister. That has nothing to do with the sister allowing her brother to use the product. If my brother wants to use my LEGO I should not have to give him my passowrd to, say, my Credit Card account. Ultimately a Aplple ID is connected to a) personal information and b) money via a Credit Card.



Frederic Nitschke wrote:


I once lived in Europe nd I had a huge DVD collection. I then moved to Asia and suddendly I'm not allowed to see my purchased DVD's on Asian DVD players!

You're not "allowed" to play the DVDs because of a difference in technology (PAL vs. NTSC), not DRM.


That is such a ignorant statement. How does NTSC mean that I cannot view a video that I legally purchased. First of all it isn't NTSC at all - it's a Region Code. NTSC vs PAL is for VHS - it has no relevance today. Even back then, in the days of VHS, it was totally legal to buy a PAL video Recorder in Asia. Today however if you are in Region 2, it is actually illegal to buy a Region 1 DVD player.


The sole purpose of Region Codes is to artificially control price in different countries. However it is consumer bullying if you move from one region to the other as you acted completely legally in purchasing DVD over several years. If I bought the DVDs in Norway and then move to Asia, say Hanoi, I should be able to still be able to watch them.


The funny thing about your post is that you are defending corporate bulltying as a consumer. I understand why corporations do the things they do. What I don't understand is consumer attacking other consumers for totally normal and sensitive requests such as: being able to watch legally purchased Media or being able to transfer ownership of software from a sister to a brother.


Also in case you didn't notice: the subject line of this whole massive thread contains the word "transfer". A transfer isn't stealing as it requires authorisation of the original owner.


It's the same as buying a house. Ultimately when you buy a house, a title is transfered to you. A title is nothing else as a certificate stating that the house belongs to you. It's the same as a license to use software. In some coutnries owning a house doesn't mean that you own the land. In those cases it is actually very similar to a software license where you own the RIGHT to use the software with owning the right to copy it. But as with an RIGHT, software or house, you need to be able to transfer that right to use the house, software, piece of Lego or design to someone, if you agree to it.


I beleive there is an agreement in the OP, but whether or not there is an actual agreement in the OP is COMPLETELY BESIDES THE POINT. THE POINT IS: Apple doesn't allow a transfer - whether you agree to it or not.

Jan 23, 2014 2:57 PM in response to Dah•veed

1- I red it, you not: "she DOESN'T use any apple product anymore, but she has PURCHASED many apps, now, i'm using HER ipad, and i want to move HER PURCHASES to MY account" and what he says is that the girl was not using her apps or any apple product anymore and wanted him to get it her ipad her apps: that's called a transfer, not a double usage and definitively that's not stealing, if I stop using my Microsoft Office Suite right now I can simply uninstall it and my wife can install it! The licence was paid for and Microsoft is happy.

2- "You didn't buy an app, you paid to license for a copy of an app. A copy that has no right to transfer to anyone else." Cleverly language formulated way to steal legally money from customer. Make me think about the new parking meeters cities are putting all around to steal more money, you paid for 8 hours of parking but leaves 15 minutes later, the next car cannot just use the rest of your 7h45 minutes he has to pay another 8 hours so the city can theorically make 28800 times 8 hours of already paid money on just one parking spot! Clever stealing trick... nicely repeated by Apple.

3- Negatif! We didn't let them setup their iphones with their personal apple id! To set it up, we had to use an email address, so we used our corporate email address attributed to them like johndoe@corporation.com. This has nothing to do with "personal" : it is the corporate email address created for them and since Apple insist on creating an id base on an email address there was no other choice.

@James Ward4: thanks for tring to provide information for IT but I have to say: I have been travelling round in round with all sub links for the last hour and trying to filter the Marketing geberish out of those pages and what I understand is kind of ... the iphone using build in MDM language can inverface with an external MDM SERVER to deploy stuff...ouf!!! I would need a degree on this, probably a consultant and I see a need for a huge budget for a server and a mdm external application.... All this because the software is not design intelligent enough to simply follow the phone it is locate on to. I will most probably ends up re-BUYING all the softwares again

Jan 23, 2014 5:30 PM in response to Kilgore-Trout

@James Ward4:

That sounds interesting... am I getting this right: A company can actually transfer apps/music to a new employee, whereas an individual can not transfer these to someone else. Is that correct?


I run a small company where phone, ipad and Macbook are basically used for business purposes. Now if using a company account does actually solve the transfer problem, I´d really like to know how I can get one.

Don´t get me wrong, the trouble and worries I had (concerning music files) have been solved with the help of this community. I just find it annoying that I have to switch between two (accidentally created) individual accounts back and forth on my Apple devices, so I can receive updates etc... I´d rather go for a company account.


--> How can I get this kind of company account, without having to buy another new ipad? Please advise...


Thanks,

Bernie

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