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time machine sick to death of it!

I am absolutely sick and tired of trying to create a back up. I have been endevouring to do this all year.. and still I am no further forward. I have a Mybooklive attached to my Netgear. I have wiped it clean and started again. .. and STILL I dont seem to have a successful back up on there. It is driving me to distraction. I get the following errors...

this back up started on March 9 - it seems to stop and restart each time the amount to be backed up reduces... until it gets to say 2gb..

Copied 398.9 MB of 51.7 GB, 818 of 188991 items

Copied 664.8 MB of 51.7 GB, 1652 of 188991 items

Copied 919.4 MB of 51.7 GB, 2741 of 188991 items

Copied 1.2 GB of 51.7 GB, 2797 of 188991 items

Copied 1.6 GB of 51.7 GB, 2831 of 188991 items

Copied 2.1 GB of 51.7 GB, 2922 of 188991 items

Copied 2.5 GB of 51.7 GB, 3023 of 188991 items

Copied 2.9 GB of 51.7 GB, 3149 of 188991 items

Copied 3.0 GB of 51.7 GB, 3154 of 188991 items

Copied 3.5 GB of 51.7 GB, 3252 of 188991 items

Copied 3.9 GB of 51.7 GB, 3343 of 188991 items

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error

Error: (-36) SrcErr:NO Copying /Users/alex/Laura's Backup/College A2 WORK/Media/Production/Poster 3 to /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/Alex/2012-02-28-193411.inProgress/9378BF43-2E24-442E-A 311-0AF326DC41BA/Macintosh HD/Users/alex/Laura's Backup/College A2 WORK/Media/Production

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error

Error: (-36) SrcErr:NO Copying /Users/alex/Laura's Backup/College A2 WORK/Media/Production/Soundtrack CD Cover to /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/Alex/2012-02-28-193411.inProgress/9378BF43-2E24-442E-A 311-0AF326DC41BA/Macintosh HD/Users/alex/Laura's Backup/College A2 WORK/Media/Production

Stopping backup.

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error

Error: (-8062) SrcErr:NO Copying /Users/alex/Laura's Backup/College A2 WORK/Media/Production/Soundtrack CD Cover/back.psd to (null)

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error

Copied 3364 files (4.4 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error

Copy stage failed with error:11

Stopping backupd to allow ejection of backup destination disk!

then it started again...

Starting standard backup

Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://;AUTH=No%20User%20Authent@MyBookLive.local/TimeMachine

Mounted network destination using URL: afp://;AUTH=No%20User%20Authent@MyBookLive.local/TimeMachine

QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN

Disk image /Volumes/TimeMachine/Alex.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups

Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb

Detected system migration from: /Volumes/Macintosh HD 1

No pre-backup thinning needed: 56.66 GB requested (including padding), 462.55 GB available

Waiting for index to be ready (101)

Copied 832.8 MB of 47.2 GB, 384 of 188991 items

Copied 1.5 GB of 47.2 GB, 384 of 188991 items

Copied 2.7 GB of 47.2 GB, 384 of 188991 items

Copied 4.3 GB of 47.2 GB, 384 of 188991 items

Copied 5.0 GB of 47.2 GB, 384 of 188991 items

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Device not configured

Error: (-36) SrcErr:NO Copying /Users/alex/Laura's Backup/iPhoto Library Croyde/Modified/2011/Steph Hannay Shoot/IMG_0426.JPG to /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/Alex/2012-02-28-193411.inProgress/36DEB5FD-4562-47BA-9 FF1-45EA1EAF0095/Macintosh HD/Users/alex/Laura's Backup/iPhoto Library Croyde/Modified/2011/Steph Hannay Shoot

Stopping backup.

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Device not configured

Error: (-8062) SrcErr:NO Copying /Users/alex/Laura's Backup/iPhoto Library Croyde/Modified/2011/Steph Hannay Shoot/IMG_0426.JPG to /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/Alex/2012-02-28-193411.inProgress/36DEB5FD-4562-47BA-9 FF1-45EA1EAF0095/Macintosh HD/Users/alex/Laura's Backup/iPhoto Library Croyde/Modified/2011/Steph Hannay Shoot

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Device not configured

Stopping backupd to allow ejection of backup destination disk!

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Device not configured

Copied 384 files (5.0 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Device not configured

Copy stage failed with error:11

then this one... different files it didn't like

starting standard backup

Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://;AUTH=No%20User%20Authent@MyBookLive.local/TimeMachine

Mounted network destination using URL: afp://;AUTH=No%20User%20Authent@MyBookLive.local/TimeMachine

QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN

Disk image /Volumes/TimeMachine/Alex.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups

Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb

Detected system migration from: /Volumes/Macintosh HD 1

No pre-backup thinning needed: 48.25 GB requested (including padding), 455.44 GB available

Waiting for index to be ready (101)

Copied 1.8 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Copied 2.9 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Copied 4.9 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Copied 6.9 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Copied 8.4 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Copied 10.8 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Copied 13.2 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Copied 16.1 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Copied 17.6 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Copied 18.6 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Copied 19.6 GB of 40.2 GB, 26 of 188991 items

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error

Error: (-36) SrcErr:NO Copying /Users/alex/Laura's Backup/iPhoto Library Croyde/Originals/2011/Germany!/IMG_1773.JPG to /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/Alex/2012-02-28-193411.inProgress/DC60CF4F-8C13-4B6B-9 205-D73D777F8E57/Macintosh HD/Users/alex/Laura's Backup/iPhoto Library Croyde/Originals/2011/Germany!

Stopping backup.

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error

Error: (-8062) SrcErr:NO Copying /Users/alex/Laura's Backup/iPhoto Library Croyde/Originals/2011/Germany!/IMG_1773.JPG to /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/Alex/2012-02-28-193411.inProgress/DC60CF4F-8C13-4B6B-9 205-D73D777F8E57/Macintosh HD/Users/alex/Laura's Backup/iPhoto Library Croyde/Originals/2011/Germany!

Stopping backupd to allow ejection of backup destination disk!

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error

Copied 26 files (19.6 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error

Copy stage failed with error:11

& so it goes on and on all week failing with an error 11.

until tonight...

Starting standard backup

Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://;AUTH=No%20User%20Authent@MyBookLive.local/TimeMachine

Mounted network destination using URL: afp://;AUTH=No%20User%20Authent@MyBookLive.local/TimeMachine

QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN

Disk image /Volumes/TimeMachine/Alex.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups

Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb

Detected system migration from: /Volumes/Macintosh HD 1

No pre-backup thinning needed: 3.63 GB requested (including padding), 412.67 GB available

Copied 1.2 GB of 2.1 GB, 29 of 188991 items

Copied 3.6 GB of 3.6 GB, 29 of 188991 items

Copied 4.2 GB of 4.2 GB, 29 of 188991 items

Stopping backupd to allow ejection of backup destination disk!

Stopping backup.

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Device not configured

Error: (-34) SrcErr:NO Copying /Users/alex/Laura's Backup/Iphoto2/iPhoto2/iPhoto Library Alex/Modified/2011/Cornwall, Easter/IMG_2657.JPG to /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/Alex/2012-02-28-193411.inProgress/7A89729E-7A3B-4E28-B EA8-1FF28BEC62B7/Macintosh HD/Users/alex/Laura's Backup/Iphoto2/iPhoto2/iPhoto Library Alex/Modified/2011/Cornwall, Easter

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Device not configured

Copied 29 files (4.2 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.

Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:*** -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Device not configured

Copy stage failed with error:28

I tried at one stage to go in and edit as per another post on here using terminal.. got stuck at a particular stage and gave up as noone responded how to help.

I just want a back up. Western Digital have offered to replace my hard drive - but it will be a reconditioned one and not a new one..

I just hate it.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.7)

Posted on Mar 13, 2012 3:48 PM

57 replies

Pondini

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May 2, 2013 12:39 PM in response to Alex Nicholls

Alex Nicholls wrote:

. . .

Time Machine could not complete the backuTime Machine could not delete the backup disk image “/Volumes/TimeMachine/Alex’s MacBook Pro.purgeable

The ".purgeable" is the key -- TM had previously sent a message about the backups failing verification, per #C13 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting. That's at least the second time that's happened to you, right? If so, it sounds like there's a problem with the NAS, the connection to it, or compatibility with the version of OSX you're running.

You'd apparently clicked "Start New Backup," but TM couldn't delete the old one.

Network destination already mounted at: /Volumes/TimeMachine

Found 1 partially deleted backup image.

Deleted backup image: /Volumes/TimeMachine/Alex’s MacBook Pro.purgeable. 616.2 GB available on host volume.

Apparently, this time it was able to delete the old backups, and made a new sparse bundle.

Backup content size: 369.1 GB excluded items size: 16.9 GB for volume Macintosh HD

422.68 GB required (including padding), 615.57 GB available

Ready to make a new, full backup.

Waiting for index to be ready (101)

Assuming that message has been there for a while, and/or there are a lot of them, TM is having a problem creating the index. Again, sounds like a problem with the NAS, the connection to it, or possibly compatibility.

Considering all the troubles you've had with this setup, I'd strongly recommend trying something else more reliable. See Time Machine - Frequently Asked Question #2 for options.

Jun 10, 2013 6:18 AM in response to Pondini

OK - fine for a month.. and here we go again..

Starting standard backup

Attempting to mount network destination URL: afp://;AUTH=No%20User%20Authent@MyBookLive.local/TimeMachine

Mounted network destination at mountpoint: /Volumes/TimeMachine using URL: afp://;AUTH=No%20User%20Authent@MyBookLive.local/TimeMachine

QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM DIRTY

Runtime corruption detected on /Volumes/TimeMachine/Alex’s MacBook Pro.sparsebundle (fsck_hfs -q termination status: 3)

Network destination already mounted at: /Volumes/TimeMachine

Pondini

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Jun 10, 2013 6:27 AM in response to Alex Nicholls

Forgive me, but I've "lost the trail" here and really don't want to read back through all 4 pages.

Are you still backing-up via the Netgear box? If so, forgive me again, but I think you're beating a dead horse. Some folks get NASs or drives connected to routers other than Time Capsules to work, but often they either don't work at all, or don't work well, as in your case.

At a minimum, I'd strongly recommend keeping "secondary" backups, if you aren't already. See Time Machine - Frequently Asked Question #27 for some suggestions.

I'd also recommend either using a different app to back up via the Netgear, or using Time Machine with one of the other destinations in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Question #2.

Jun 10, 2013 6:36 AM in response to Alex Nicholls

No - plugged the NAS diretly into the Virgin Media router where the internet comes into the house

still not sure why it seems to work and then stop.

not sure what to do now. It seems that no backup NAS is reliable - even Macs' own Time Capsule doesn't have the best of recommendations. I do agree that I am sick of this and should start again -

Pondini

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Jun 10, 2013 7:08 AM in response to Alex Nicholls

Alex Nicholls wrote:

. . .

Cant see your reply on here for some reason...

Yeah, that's an intermittent problem with the forums. Something about the servers getting out of sync. 😟

It seems that no backup NAS is reliable

Some folks get them to work, but yes, there do seem to be lots of problems. See the pink box in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Question #2 for some explanation.

My suspicion is simply that working with TM is an afterthought to the NAS makers; most of their effort is on their other stuff. And TM has unique requirements. I think some of them just don't ever quite get it right, especially error detection and correction.

- even Macs' own Time Capsule doesn't have the best of recommendations

Well, anything wireless is bound to be less reliable than a good old external HD. Nature of the beast.

And while Apple claims to use server-grade drives, they don't seem to.

We don't have any figures about total sales vs. problems, but they seem reasonably reliable to me (I have one, no trouble at all, but in a near-ideal setup). And you cannot beat the convenience for backing-up a laptop.

Many (most?) are in the hands of very non-technical users (who'd be hard-pressed to set up a NAS, much less your setup); some are in places with marginal signals and/or unreliable AC power (mine's on a U.P.S. along with the modem and USB drive), so it's really hard to tell.

That's why I send so many folks to the links above (#2 and 27). 😉

Message was edited by: Pondini

ds store

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Jun 10, 2013 7:41 AM in response to Alex Nicholls

It seems that no backup NAS is reliable - even Macs' own Time Capsule doesn't have the best of recommendations.

I agree because anything wireless or network related adds a extra level of complexity and another potential source of failure.

There is a old saying, "Keep it simple stupid" and nothing is more simpler (or cheaper) than a bootable clone, connect a wire and clone, update it with error checking, simple as pie.

One or two per each machine and your safe for decades.

I give you and Pondini both a lot of credit for trying so hard to make things "just work", but it's never going to happen unless TC gets a SSD, a decent processor and the software gets a whole lot more intelligent.

Right now you two are replacing the missing intelligence factor and your also fighting a unseen foe of failing sectors on boot hard drives and network glitches, both solvable with more reliable SSD's and a more intelligent designed software.

Perhaps one day, but that day is not here as people won't spend over $1000 for a reliable wireless NAS system.

Apple is slapping bare bones intelligence, a hard drive and a fancy case/marketing and selling TC for $500 and even that price point is scaring people away.

So a $130 external powered drive + cloning software is the cheap and reliable way to go with the most features and options. 🙂

Pondini

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Jun 10, 2013 7:54 AM in response to ds store

The problem with that is the inconvenience for many users, especially the non-techie ones. Not everyone is going to connect an external HD to their laptops every day to do a backup. They should, but they just don't.

That's why a Time Capsule, in conjunction with regular clone backups is often the best combination.

ds store

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Jun 10, 2013 6:29 PM in response to Pondini

Not everyone is going to connect an external HD to their laptops every day to do a backup.

They will if they are reminded to do so.

Pondini

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Jun 10, 2013 6:33 PM in response to ds store

Are you going to remind them?

Time Machine won't send a message until they go 10 days without a backup (and if they leave TM off, and use Back Up Now, they won't even get those).

ds store

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Jun 11, 2013 10:23 AM in response to Pondini

This in turn means that third-party Time Capsule devices have to rely on reverse-engineered implementations of AFP to continue functioning, and OS X updates occasionally break third-party Time Capsule devices, sometimes for weeks.

Thought you would be interested.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/06/new-os-x-uses-windows-file-sharing-by-defau lt/

Pondini

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Jun 11, 2013 10:31 AM in response to ds store

Yes, that's one of the reasons NASs tend not to work well with Time Machine -- the NAS makers just don't seem to get it entirely right.

Jul 2, 2013 2:25 AM in response to Alex Nicholls

Didn't even last a month after got this message again on Friday 30th June.

Runtime corruption detected on /Volumes/TimeMachine/Alex’s MacBook

Filesystem dirty again! ARH!

Think I need to give in and find something else.

time machine sick to death of it!