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How do I download Rosetta®, the "software translation technology", to my MC815LLA, OS X Lion? I'm led to believe it can migrate/translate(/transfer?) my PowerPC (Tiger 10.4.11) 'stuff' to my brand new Intel (10.7.3)-a Big Jump, I know.

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How do I download Rosetta®, the "software translation technology", to my MC815LLA, OS X Lion? I'm led to believe it can help me migrate/translate(/transfer?) my PowerPC (Tiger 10.4.11) 'stuff' to my brand new Intel (Lion 10.7.3)---A BIG Jump---; believe me, I KNOW! Like falling off a horse-drawn tram into the seat of an F-18. Goodness Gracious!


Regarding a somewhat similar problem: "How to get the phone book and calendar out of my Nokia cell phone ( smart?)?" The Nokia requires iSync (no longer supported in Lion) & a Nokia plugin.


Partitioning off 30(?) to 50(? ) Gigs and installing Snow Leopard was confirmed as a "do-able" by "Apple Care" (AC)____


My Question: Could rebuild my iCal & Address Book on the Snow Leopard, using iSync (presuming there is a plugin for 10.6) & then, migrate them to Lion.


The Nokia was iSync'd, March '11with the Mac Cube HD >[currently residing in an "Enclosure"] : Mac Cube, OS 9 Extended, journaled, (maxed out w/OS X 10.4.11).


Treated the Nokia as the Primary or Default. It was the FIRST time, ever, that I had a copy of my phone's "contacts".


Everyones external contacts(+notes) data is of the utmost importance!


My Nokia's 'Contacts' (phone book) is 13 yrs. old. Started 1998 with Voicestream (®, ™?). Transferid "electronically" by the service provider. Built from 40 years of personal phone books in DC. Ex. Asst., B'days, Spose's B'days, tire size, -pins, Pswds. reminders-, etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum.


That's not a solution for the files, folders, docs, etc. in the PowerPC apps. For instance, and in particular, iWork; templates, Stationary Letter Heads, archived letter files, etc., etc.


Given the FEAR of loosing some


As always, Thanks in advance,

Specifically to you Experts

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7.3), From Horse Drawn to Jet Fighter!

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Posted on Mar 25, 2012 2:06 AM

1. NO you can't use Rosetta in Lion. After six years of making PPC code redundant, Rosetta was finally dropped in Lion. There in no hack to run it in Lion.


2. Refer to Nokias site, as these are Apple forums.


Good Luck


Pete

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Mar 26, 2012 1:21 AM in response to petermac87

Pete,


Thanks for the quick response. 1st time I've been able to get through to "Apple Support Communities" in 3 years. There's been some kink re: "a previous account at this email address.." but system never would send the change or temp. pswd. to me. Serveral attempts to solve the prob. proved fruitless. At least now, thanks to you, I know I got through.


Felt fairly certain that I would get the answer you gave. No offense intended re: Asking about the Nokia. None-the-less, it's still part of the equation intended to let me learn, know & approach total comprehension of the Apple side of the equation. Then I'm able to tell Nokia what they have to do. Capiche?


The thrust of my inquiry is probably not clear enough. Given that I partition & install Snow Leopard. Can I then use iSync sync the phone book and calendar with Address Book & iCal in the 10.6.?, on the Mac Mini? And then, migrate(?) those in to same apps in Lion. I presume I should take into account that the Nokia's contacts & calendar were synced with PPC apps & that the format may be a problem. If that's the case, could this Rosetta® (app?, utility?) be implemental in accomplishing this absolutely necessary task?


Again, it probably wasn't clear but, I noticed you did not address my question re: Rosetta®. The last line of the missive re: "...solution for the files, folders, docs, etc. in the PowerPC apps. For instance, and in particular, iWork; templates, Stationary Letter Heads, archived letter files, etc., etc."


Can Rosetta® resolve translating my PPC iWork templates, etc., to an Intel iWork on 10.6.? ? And then migrate such to Lion? All things considered will I have to get 2 iWorks (&/or other apps.). One for Snow Leopard; one for Lion? Is an 'upgrade' do-able between the 2 different operating systs. on the same Mac Mini (mid 2011)? Or do I have to buy 2 different apps?


Thanks for the "Good Luck"& the Quick response,


DPT

Mar 26, 2012 2:46 AM in response to Apple Cube

Rosetta is part of Snow Leopard and you can run PPC apps in this system. However it's quite unlikely that you can start your new Mac up from an external disk containing a Snow Leopard system: in general you can't boot a Mac from an earlier system than the one it came supplied with.


You don't need to do any of this with iWork templates or documents. The current version of iWork runs in Lion and will open older documents perfectly well. The same applies with any program which has an Intel version. The only place you will run into difficulties is with PPC programs which have no Intel version and whose documents can't be opened by anything else.


I can't advise on the Nokia. Probably someone else can.

Mar 26, 2012 3:30 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1

Hello,

I'm sorry Roger but I have to disagree for one thing, it is definitly possible to boot a Mac from an earlier system than the one it came supplied with, it just have to be compatible i.e you can't boot an Intel Mac with a PPC OS that for sure but if you boot it with Snow Leopard for example, there is no problem. I have a clone on a external disc with Snow Leopard and it can boot my MBP with Lion on it.


What you can't do I think, is to install an older OS that shipped with another portable to your new one just acquired. To do so, you should have a retail version of the previous OS (i.e Snow Leopard) to be able to install it to your new portable.


Regards,

Mar 26, 2012 3:40 AM in response to Scan

Macs bought very recently after the introduction of a new system still have the old hardware and in these cases it's possible to boot from an earlier system. That's why I said 'in general' - once the hardware has been updated you probably can't boot from an earlier system.


Your second paragraph is correct: indeed you can't install any OS, current or earlier, from the grey discs which came with another Mac. These are machine-specific and you need to buy a retail copy, as you say.

Mar 26, 2012 3:47 AM in response to Apple Cube

About the Nokia contacts and calendar, I'm unclear whether the infomation is (1) just in a Nokia application or (2) whether on your old Mac you used iSync to get it into Address Book and iCal.


With (1), see if you can use the Nokia application to export the contacts into CSV format, which you can then import into Address Book on Lion. For the calendars, I really have little experience. It appears iCal only like .ics files. Might check macupdate.com to see if there are any 3d party tools in case you run into issue with iCal.


With (2), much easier. You can transfer over the Address Books and Calendars into you Home directory in Lion, Address Book and iCal should update them as necessary.

- For peace of mind, on the old Mac I would also export the Address Books and Calendars. That way if the updating bombs, you can just import them in Lion.

Mar 26, 2012 6:35 AM in response to Apple Cube

MC815LLA

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7.3)

Partitioning off 30(?) to 50(? ) Gigs and installing Snow Leopard was confirmed as a "do-able" by "Apple Care


I don't think this is correct for your particular model.


Some new Mac models have not yet had a major hardware change since Lion was introduced, and can still run Snow Leopard, but even in that situation you can't use a retail Snow Leopard DVD to install it directly. The last Retail DVD was 10.6.3, which is too old for this - you need to get a higher OS version onto a partition before the new Mac will boot from it. There are a number of threads here about different ways doing this for those models, including:

HowTo revert new MacBook Pro, Mac Pro or iMac to Snow Leopard



However you have a new Mac mini, which did change hardware when Lion was introduced, and your hardwire model never shipped with Snow Leopard. You can apparently get a new mini to boot from a 10.6.8 Snow Leopard partition that was created by another Mac, but it will lack a number of drivers for the new hardware and won't function normally, at least not without some complicated system hacks. See this very long thread in the Mini forum - I haven't gone through it all.

Can I install Snow Leopard on the new Mac Mini

Mar 27, 2012 12:50 AM in response to Apple Cube

The current edition of Pages will open any pages document, even if created in an earlier version. If that's all you want to do you don't have a problem.


As to installing Snow Leopard it makes no different at all whether it's on an external disk or a partition. It's probable, though not certain, that your Mac will not boot from a Snow Leopard install disk.


You cannot use a grey install disk that came with another machine. You need a retail disk, which you should purchase. If you borrow someone else's this is against the Licence and is in effect copyright theft.

Mar 27, 2012 1:18 AM in response to Eric.

Eric,


"Thanks. Still reading"


Used iSync with a Nokia Plugin.


I've got to think about this. I can't export either one without iSync, at this point (haven't checked with an 'uber minch' in Nokia's support entity yet to see what, if anything is in the works).


Presume your working this along the line of using a partition with Snow Leopard's which still supports ISync? Then, if I can(?), migrating everything to Lion 10.7.3?


Ifr that is the case, I'm not competent enough to know anything, yet, about the "CVS format" nor the ".pcs files".


Let me know; Thanks,


DPT

Mar 27, 2012 2:17 AM in response to Apple Cube

Apple Cube wrote:



Used iSync with a Nokia Plugin.


I've got to think about this. I can't export either one without iSync, at this point (haven't checked with an 'uber minch' in Nokia's support entity yet to see what, if anything is in the works).


Presume your working this along the line of using a partition with Snow Leopard's which still supports ISync? Then, if I can(?), migrating everything to Lion 10.7.3?


To your last questions, yes, something similar; but I do *not* need iSync anymore. While running Snow Leopard or even Leopard about a year ago, I used iSync for a Nokia in the household, which got the contacts into Address Book and calendars into iCal on my Mac. Once in Address Book and iCal on my Mac (in Leopard and Snow Leopard), there wasn't a problem migrating them to Lion -- the Lion versions of Address Book and iCal should be able to make any necessary changes to the files.


But that Nokia got replaced by an iPhone, so I stopped using iSync over a year ago and don't need it anymore. I only needed it initially to get the data off the Nokia and into Address Book and Calendar on my Mac; it was a one shot deal.


(With another cell. phone (mine) that got replaced by another iPhone, there was no Mac software and I couldn't use iSync. I used the Windows software to export my contacts into a CSV (comma separated values) file, which I then imported into Address Book on my Mac. But this doesn't sound like your case since you can/could use iSync on your old computer; so forget about CSV and .ics files.)


So here are the important questions. Do you need to keep using the Nokia, and do you still need to keep it in sync it with your Mac?

1. If you don't need to keep the Nokia in sync with a Mac running Lion, then the solution should be straightforward with your old Mac that used iSync. The data should already been in Address Book and iCal; so you can migrate those databases to a Mac running Lion. (This was my case because the Nokia was replaced by an iPhone.)


2. If you still need to keep the Nokia in sync with a Mac running Lion, then it's a bit more problematic because there is no iSync in Lion.

- Running Snow Leopard on a separate partition -- assuming you can install it on a Mac running Lion -- is problematic because the data coming from the Nokia will be in Snow Leopard, not Lion. And you've have to reboot just to sync. (I'm not sure whether the file formats of the Address Book and iCal are the same in both Snow Leopard and Lion, which would permit sharing the data files -- this might be dicey and wouldn't count on this working long term.)

- You should check Nokia's site to see if they have some sort of Lion software that might help you with syncing.

- You could run eventually Snow Leopard *Server* in virtualization/emulation with Virtual Machine software like VMWare Fusion, Parallels, or Oracle's Virtual box. At least you wouldn't have to reboot to sync, but the Address Book and Calendars again are locked away in Snow Leopard, not in Lion. The conventional wisdom on the licenses of Snow Leopard are that you can't create a virtual machine of Snow Leopard Client, you can with the Server version. But the Snow Leopard Server costs like USD 500, at which point maybe you might be better off retiring the Nokia and getting something else that's less problematic in terms of continued syncing in Lion (and even iCloud).

Apr 8, 2012 7:28 AM in response to Eric.

Eric, et al,


Thanks. You gave me impetus to keep digging at Nokia. Found this goo.gl/xyusc . [Download] iSync 3.1.2 The Missing Mac OS X Lion App | Dev-Ray .


This resolved my most important & immediate worry. Backing up my contacts/Address Book & calendar/iCal.


iCal & Address Book Synced?-Sunked? Thankfully not lost {sunk)!


DPT


p.s. Still need to figure out how to get the PPC docs brought over. Thought surely I'd made the Mini's purchase contingent on having iWork (primarily Pages) as a condition of purchase. Have to check that out. My non-accessible Pages (v. 1.0.2 PPC) has proven so far to be totally inaccessible.


DPT

How do I download Rosetta®, the "software translation technology", to my MC815LLA, OS X Lion? I'm led to believe it can migrate/translate(/transfer?) my PowerPC (Tiger 10.4.11) 'stuff' to my brand new Intel (10.7.3)-a Big Jump, I know.

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