2:35.1 Ratio Cinema Scope problems

Pretty sure that HDV 16:9 is square pixels. If you want 2.35:1 on an anamorphic 4:3 disc I think you would want a center crop that is 817 pixels tall (assuming the document is 1920x1080). Exporting straight to 720x480 would squish everything into the anamorphic image, and on playback it should look right on widescreen TVs and on regular TVs.

If you want to letterbox it purely for 4:3 TVs, and are expecting widescreen TV users to zoom the video, then the arithmetic is trickier, but perhaps comes out at 919 pixels tall.

Do either of those numbers roughly match what you did?

All of what I said really applied to FCP. When you say that the image is squeezed, is it less tall than you expected, or more tall? If you play the disc on a widescreen TV, what part of the sreen is filled with your video?

Cut off image is another story. In the DVDSP inspector you can choose the aspect ratio, and whether it's pan and scan or letterboxed. You may be on pan and scan.

For some reason my DVD Studio Pro needs to be registered again, and I can't put my hands on my serial number, otherwise I'd give you more exact instructions!

Not quite sure what you are trying to achieve when you say you want the letterbox to appear full on a 4:3 tv...

As far as I can see you need to set your track to 16:9 letterbox. That way on a 16:9 set it will fill the screen and show your 2:35:1 letterbox (black bars top and bottom). On a 4:3 set it still show all your picture just the black bars top and bottom will much bigger.

If however you want just the centre section of your picture to appear on a 4:3 (though why you'd wantr to do this) then I believe you need to set it to 16:9 pan and Scan & letterbox - this would mean on 16:9 it would appear letterboxed and a 4:3 set just the centre would show (with slight black bars top and bottom I would think).

Of course this also depends on how the end user has their DVD player output set up...

Hope this helps

Steve Kirkham

Where are you seeing the image cut off. When you play it on a tv set and DVD player? Has the DVD player been set up for 16:9 output? Does it look OK in Simulator (have you changed the prefernce for that to 16:9 Letterbox).

If you done all of the stuff discussed it "should" work...

Steve

Are you sure you've encoded as 16:9, flagged the track as 16:9 LB, set the DVD player to 16:9 mode and have the TV set correctly?

The lost footage isn't overscan is it? Sorry but I have to ask. You could use MyDVDEdit or DVDAfterEdit to check that things are flagged as 16:9 in the Build or just play it in the Apple DVD Player (not fullscreen) and see if it plays 16:9 or 4:3...

-Jake

I think we are thinking along the same lines Jake...

It's got to be something which hasn't been set at some stage in the project

Steve

Hi steve,
I also running into the same problem. I have the mtv shot in 16mm & telecine 4x3LB. I edit it in FCP as 4x3 but now how can I set the dvdsp4 so that it can see on widescreen with the LB like other hollywood movies?
The other problem is that I also have other stuff shooting 16x9 anamorphic with Dbeta. I need to combine these 16mm MTV with the 16x9video for the dvd & I don't want my viewers to the 16mm mtv get distored in the widescreen.
How's the hollywood movie prepare for dvd?
My only option is to put the 16mm mtv with have 4x3LB into the 16x9 sequence in FCP & scale it to fill the entire screen.

Thankx,
JP

Hi steve,
I also running into the same problem. I have the mtv shot in 16mm & telecine 4x3LB. I edit it in FCP as 4x3 but now how can I set the dvdsp4 so that it can see on widescreen with the LB like other hollywood movies?
The other problem is that I also have other stuff shooting 16x9 anamorphic with Dbeta. I need to combine these 16mm MTV with the 16x9video for the dvd & I don't want my viewers to the 16mm mtv get distored in the widescreen.
How's the hollywood movie prepare for dvd?My only option is to put the 16mm mtv with have 4x3LB into the 16x9 sequence in FCP & scale it to fill the entire screen.

Thankx,
JP

If you have telecined as 4:3 Letterbox then that is what it is - 4:3 (with black bars top and bottom presumably. When we do movies that are widescreen we have a 16:9 master supplied - if it's 2:35:1 then it will still have black bars because it will sit "inside" the 16:9 ratio (roughly 1.77:1 ratio) and still show black bars but the track it is in in DVD-SP is set to 16:9 Letterbox.

If you are starting with something that you have had telecined at 4:3 LB and edited at 4:3LB you either have to leave it 4:3 LB or you can put it in a 16:9 timeline in FCP and scale it (by 1.33 I think). We recently did this with a film and as it was a good master to start with and was going onto DVD - therefore being compressed - it looked fine.

Steve