1st gen iPad and iOS 6

thom_ek wrote:

It's good and still quite new device, so I don't understand their business decision...

The A5 chip was not introduced until iPad 2. I doubt anything much earlier can run some of those iOS 6 features. And no, Apple will not make a modified iOS 6 with certain features that CAN run on the original iPad. Or else they'd be just as framented as Android, with their gazillion different updates.

Tekneek wrote:

What is more likely is that this will be the negative experience that leaves me transitioning off of Apple products entirely.

So long, then. Adios!

Down boy.

Matt K wants you to be making everyone feel welcome here. Don't disappoint him. 😟

It was sold in 2010, this is 2012. It's been two years.

I had an iPad first gym but then I grew to hate it because of it's slow speed and crashing. I traded it in on Amazon and got $270 for it. I then used that money that I got via an iPad 3 in the speed difference is astounding, and totally worth it.

You can trade yours in the following link and get up to $250, which is a good price for an old iPad.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_1_ti_1?rh=i%3Aelectronics-tradein%2Ck%3AB00365F6L E&keywords=B00365F6LE&ie=UTF8&qid=1339515248&sr=8-1-ti

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stevejobsfan0123 wrote:

The A5 chip was not introduced until iPad 2. I doubt anything much earlier can run some of those iOS 6 features. And no, Apple will not make a modified iOS 6 with certain features that CAN run on the original iPad. Or else they'd be just as framented as Android, with their gazillion different updates.

Why will it go onto the iPhone 3GS then, if hardware prevents it?

Tekneek wrote:

stevejobsfan0123 wrote:

The A5 chip was not introduced until iPad 2. I doubt anything much earlier can run some of those iOS 6 features. And no, Apple will not make a modified iOS 6 with certain features that CAN run on the original iPad. Or else they'd be just as framented as Android, with their gazillion different updates.

Why will it go onto the iPhone 3GS then, if hardware prevents it?

They could probably release a thinner version of iOS 6 for the iPad 1st Gen, similar to iOS 5 on the 3G, but they probably are only doing it for the 3GS because of it's still being sold and they don't want to cut people off who buy a new 3GS today. The iPad 1 has been discontinued for a year or so. Maybe it isn't fair, since the iPad 1st Gen should be able to handle iOS 6 (or a lighter version), but I guess that's that they're going with. They want to keep the iOS platform as simple hardware-wise as they can, so that means cutting off old hardware.

I'm going to have to chalk this up to an $800+ lesson learned. Don't buy an iPad at a price you're unwilling to pay every 2 years in order to stay up to date. Too steep for me.

They want to keep the iOS platform as simple hardware-wise as they can, so that means cutting off old hardware.

The problem is that first gen iPad isn't really old hardware...

I also see other problem - ecological! Apple tries to be eco friendly, but after their decision we have to trash our 1-2 year old devices. It's first time when I'm very disappointed about Apple 😟

thom_ek wrote:

They want to keep the iOS platform as simple hardware-wise as they can, so that means cutting off old hardware.

The problem is that first gen iPad isn't really old hardware...

I also see other problem - ecological! Apple tries to be eco friendly, but after their decision we have to trash our 1-2 year old devices. It's first time when I'm very disappointed about Apple 😟

I agree. I don't think the orginal iPad is that old, but Apple seems to think it is. I think in general Apple considers Macs older than 5 years to be vintage, as about that time the newest version of OS X drops support for them, and for iOS devices it is about 2 years. The 3GS seems to be the exception, but that's probably because Apple has been selling it for so long and you can still get it on AT&T.

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thom_ek wrote:

The problem is that first gen iPad isn't really old hardware...

I also see other problem - ecological! Apple tries to be eco friendly, but after their decision we have to trash our 1-2 year old devices. It's first time when I'm very disappointed about Apple 😟

They would point to their recycling program, although the real extent of their "greenness" is focused on power consumption and manufacturing processes. Planning to phase out devices every 2 years (for iPads), every 3 years (for iPhones), and every 5 years (for computers), is not included in that claim to eco-friendliness.

we have to trash our 1-2 year old devices

Why do you have to trash it?

Presumably, your iPad 1 did everything you wanted it to, at a price you were happy to pay, when you got it, (and still does) otherwise you would not have bought it. What has changed?

Planning to phase out devices every 2 years (for iPads), every 3 years (for iPhones), and every 5 years (for computers), is not included in that claim to eco-friendliness.

That's a lot of *****. The devices don't stop working. They still do what they did the day before the new version of iOS is introduced. Whether you stop using it is another matter, but has nothing to do with Apple and whether it has green policies. And whether you continue to use it says a lot about you and no one else.

I'm a registered developer and I will not be able to test my software for iOS 6 on real iPad (simulator isn't enough -for example, iCloud needs real device)...

Of course I will not push it into trash - I will still use it as long as possible 🙂

I really understand that eg iPhone 2 or 3 isn't supported - they have slow cpu, less memory. But what's wrong with iPad?

Dah•veed wrote:

Planning to phase out devices every 2 years (for iPads), every 3 years (for iPhones), and every 5 years (for computers), is not included in that claim to eco-friendliness.

That's a lot of *****. The devices don't stop working. They still do what they did the day before the new version of iOS is introduced. Whether you stop using it is another matter, but has nothing to do with Apple and whether it has green policies. And whether you continue to use it says a lot about you and no one else.

Oh, they do factor that in? What you quoted from me and your response don't quite mesh up. Are you claiming they do factor that into their "green" / eco-friendliness claims, or are you talking about something else?

Sure, you can keep using iOS devices once they become incapable of receiving updates. It is far more dangerous to continue operating a computer that can no longer receive OS updates, from a security point of view. Doesn't change the fact that once your device stops receiving updates, it slowly becomes a much less secure device over time. Eventually, apps can't be updated and security holes won't get patched. Asking someone to throw down $800 every 2 years in order to maintain an up-to-date device (in terms of its operating system and ability to update all software on it) is a big ask even in the best of economies. The alternative is trading down in models every 2 years, or trading in and still paying $500-$600 to get the same model. Maybe that sounds like a great use of money to some of you, but it is a rat wheel I'm not going to run on and I am disappointed that Apple has chosen that path.