MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.


After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).


Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:26 PM

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Oct 25, 2013 4:07 AM in response to VincenzofromIT

The ones I have seen do have very mild yellow gradient and in fact it's so mild I would imagine 98% of people wouldn't notice it. The screens I have seen are much better than the last models, my concern with this model was I would get a Samsung screen with horrible yellow, that is not the case anymore with my experience so far, the colour on the Samsungs are much much better.


As far as the machine itself the rMBPs are brilliant machines, I've been using Apple products for 25 years and the rMBP perdormance wise is definitely the best machine I have owned.


If you get a chance why not go and look at one in Store and see what you think.

Oct 25, 2013 4:23 AM in response to VincenzofromIT

Probably not such a bad idea to wait a few days.


Having said that it's only people with issues that will generally come onto this forum and post so you need to bear in mind there will thousands of others who don't have a problem or it's so mild they don't notice it.


As for buying online I believe you can't return to a store but Apple do all the donkey work for year as far as I am aware, get it picked up etc.

Oct 25, 2013 4:35 AM in response to Chris Yates1

I understand.

I'm worrying about this laptop 'cause I work and study in a Hospital where I look at lots of radiography and some artefacts like ghosting can let you see something that isn't really there.


A mild yellow gradient will not be a serious problem, at least (I think) out of the Tomography field.


Thanks for the replies! I'll let this forum know how this situation will end.

Oct 25, 2013 5:58 AM in response to mittense

I've been waiting quite impatiently for a retina MBP since the first release. Finally decided to dive in, and before I could buy one, stumbled upon this thread. Y'all gave me jitters!


Seeing as I could always take the machine back if I had issues, I decided to get the new, stock $2600 15" MBP w/retina.


I had a long day of reinstalling apps and grinding over of all my files (I decided I'd start from a clean install instead of doing the Mac to Mac transfer).


Clearly, with all that transfering going on, the screen would have been exposed to a chance of image retention. As hard as I look, (on solid gray, solid white), I do NOT have ANY symptoms of image retention...nor the yellow-ish gradient people are bringing up. I have to say it, it's the most gorgeous display I've EVER seen!


I see some folks demanding system breakdowns, I'm willing to post mine if those very requesters are willing to point me/link me as to how to do that satisfactorily (is that a word?).


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TL;DR I was scared by this thread before finally plunging into retina bliss; bought a rMBP anyway. After a long day of static screens due to software installations, I see ZERO symptoms of IR/yellowing/gradual discolorations on my new Haswell 15".

Oct 25, 2013 6:23 AM in response to Salman Khan84

It was the previous models (not Haswell....so far it would seem anyway) and the LG screens. The Samsung screens had yellowing.


@Kirk - To find out which diaply you have use Spotlight and search Terminal (it will be the top hit) open Terminal and a window will appear copy and paste the following:

ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6


And hit 'return', the first thing you'll see is Color LCD then immediately below that you'll see numbers and letters. If the letters start with LSN that means it's a Samsung display. The second line will look something like:

LSN154YL01-A01


Oct 25, 2013 6:42 AM in response to Chris Yates1

Thanks! (FYI for Anyone reading through this, I needed to install developer tools to make the above Terminal command work)


Yup, it must be a Samsung:

LSN154YL01-A01

DLM33720124FF0PAK

Color LCD


I'm assuming that's good? Or will I be eating image retention crow in due time? 😝


(Had a Plasma TV in my time...know FULL WELL how annoying image retention can be. Thought I'd share that!)

Oct 25, 2013 7:41 AM in response to Kirk Eberle

It would seem they're only putting Samsung's into the latest iteration, but in the case of lel62 the command isn't giving a result. This could mean he has an LG, but the output is formatted differently. What you can try is break the command apart to see what changed. For example try this:


ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID"


You should get an output like this:


| | | | | | | "EDID" = <00ffffffffffff0006100fa00000000010150104a5211578026fb1a7554c9e250c505400000001 010101010101010101010101010101ef8340a0b0083470302036004bcf1000001a000000fc00436f 6c6f72204c43440a2020200000001000000000000000000000000000000000001000000000000000 0000000000000000e700000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 004c503135345754312d534a41320a200044434e333330313031335446445233414b0a2020202020 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000>

| | | | | | "FeatureControl" = {"GPUInterruptHandling"=1,"UseInterruptFilter"=1,"EDPDownSpreadDisable"=0,"Fast DisplayDetectDisable"=0,"SpreadON"=1,"PowerStates"=1,"IgnorePanelTimings"=0,"Gam maAdjustDisable"=0,"DisableDynamicFBC"=0,"RCxEIModeEnable"=1,"EnableDeepDisplay" =1,"MaximumSelfRefreshLevel"=3,"DPM"=1,"DeepRC6"=1,"CachedEDIDDisable"=0,"ASRDis able"=0,"Gamma"=1,"FBC"=1,"EnableConnectionState"=1,"RenderStandby"=1,"SetRC6Vol tage"=0,"UseProgrammedCoefficients"=0,"Watermarks"=1}

| | | | | "IODisplayEDID" = <00ffffffffffff0006100fa00000000010150104a5211578026fb1a7554c9e250c505400000001 010101010101010101010101010101ef8340a0b0083470302036004bcf1000001a000000fc00436f 6c6f72204c43440a2020200000001000000000000000000000000000000000001000000000000000 0000000000000000e7>


Then you can take it a step further and try this:


ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID" | sed "/[^<]*</s///"


Which should give you something like this:


00ffffffffffff0006100fa00000000010150104a5211578026fb1a7554c9e250c50540000000101 0101010101010101010101010101ef8340a0b0083470302036004bcf1000001a000000fc00436f6c 6f72204c43440a202020000000100000000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000 00000000000000e70000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 4c503135345754312d534a41320a200044434e333330313031335446445233414b0a202020202000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000>

| | | | | | "FeatureControl" = {"GPUInterruptHandling"=1,"UseInterruptFilter"=1,"EDPDownSpreadDisable"=0,"Fast DisplayDetectDisable"=0,"SpreadON"=1,"PowerStates"=1,"IgnorePanelTimings"=0,"Gam maAdjustDisable"=0,"DisableDynamicFBC"=0,"RCxEIModeEnable"=1,"EnableDeepDisplay" =1,"MaximumSelfRefreshLevel"=3,"DPM"=1,"DeepRC6"=1,"CachedEDIDDisable"=0,"ASRDis able"=0,"Gamma"=1,"FBC"=1,"EnableConnectionState"=1,"RenderStandby"=1,"SetRC6Vol tage"=0,"UseProgrammedCoefficients"=0,"Watermarks"=1}

00ffffffffffff0006100fa00000000010150104a5211578026fb1a7554c9e250c50540000000101 0101010101010101010101010101ef8340a0b0083470302036004bcf1000001a000000fc00436f6c 6f72204c43440a202020000000100000000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000 00000000000000e7>


And finally you can try this:


ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r


Which will give you a more raw result:


????????!xo??UL?%

PT?@?4p0 6K??Color LCD

?LP154WT1-SJA2

DCN3301013TFDR3AK

????????!xo??UL?%

PT?@?4p0 6K??Color LCD


If they're only using Samsung I wonder what they'll be putting into the first gen rMBPs next year or the year after when we come back with IR problems. I've still got 2 years of AppleCare, so if the IR does come back I wonder if they'll even have any LGs to give me.

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