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MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.


After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).


Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:26 PM

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Jul 6, 2012 7:43 PM in response to aut0maticdan

I spent most of the day resolving the burn-in issue I had with my rMBP. I gathered interestring information that i'm sharing with all of you.


This morning I went to my local Apple Store Genius Bar to show the burn-in problem and try to get a replacement. I had called earlier this week to check if I could bring it to them even though I bought it at a Best Buy. They said that Apple do the support and I should bring it to them instead of Best Buy. So I went!


The burn-in was really easy to reproduce on mine. Keep it 2-3 minutes on still text and swith to an empty grey screen. The text would be readable! The Genius looked up into the sApple internal database for solutions/fixes to this problem. He told me the system shows Apple is aware of the problem and is currently trying to find a solution. He could do nohting for me at this point! He had rMBP in stock but could not give one to me since I did not buy it at an Apple Store! He said I should go to the Best Buy where I bought my computer and see with them if I could get a replacement.


I went to the Best Buy a bit confused about the situation but at the same time curious of what they could do about my problem. It turn out they can't do anything. I did not realize but the 14 days return policy was alreay expired . I bought it 3 weeks ago! They told me I could buy some ridiculous extended warranty plan for 350$. Only then they would send the computer to their repair center for a screen replacement. The Geek Squad dude told me that the cost to repair an rMBP screen was 900$! If I did came before the first 14 days return policy ended, he would have gladly replaced the computer with a new one. At this point, he could not do anything about my problem. He told me to go to Apple for support. What!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm inside a void now! No one to help me.


I called back my Apple Store and told them about my "void' situation. This time, the girl on the phone was really preoccupied by my case and was wondering how come I did not get the warranty service from them in the first place earlier that day. She said there was a genius at the store that just got the certification to replace the rMBP screen and she will try to find a replacement screen. The process should be fast. She called me back a bit later and told me that no replacement screen are yet available. Instead, I had to come back because she found she found a new rMBP to replace mine (They already had depleted their inventory of the day but she was able to find one. I guess they keep some for special situations?!). Anyhow, I was excited!


Finally at the Apple Store, while transfering my stuff from one computer to another using Thunderbolt (15 minutes process btw. Really fast!) she told me that they are fully aware of the burn-in problem. In fact, one employee had the problem and got his replaced. Apparently, it was a bad batch of rMBP. The problem appears only on some models.


So far my new rMBP does't have the problem. I'm really happy but exhausted from my day.


Interesting fact: My rMBP was manufactured this week! (Week 27). How amazing is that!

Another fact: The site www.appleserialnumberinfo.com does note compute the manufacture week # correctly. The website reports my new computer has being manufactured on week 28 (this is next week). Unless this is the last gift from Steve Jobs to the world: Time travel! 🙂


Some notes for the future:

- Never buy your Apple computer at a Best Buy or other retailers. Buy at the Apple Store for maximum support

- Genius at Apple Store may not always help you correctly. Try again or get out of the Apple Store and call them to get another point of view.


Sorry for the long story but it did me good 🙂


Hope it helps others


OkCompute

Jul 6, 2012 8:49 PM in response to okcompute

Long story, good story. Thanks man for sharing. Totally agree with you. If someone says sth not seems right to you in Apple Store, you should just call Apple. They are really helpful about any situation. I've been there before and one time she said the employee shouldn't have said that and we are sorry!


Thanks for sharing man,

Have fun with your new MBPR 🙂

Jul 6, 2012 9:20 PM in response to okcompute

I'm glad you got it replaced. Apple will usually do the right thing. I bet you learned your lesson never to use 3rd parties for Apple products. You will always get caught in the red tape.


Best Buy is the worst place ever, I would have punched somebody's face if I would have been told to pay $900 on top of the $3000 computer. what a joke.


Enjoy it.


DC

Jul 8, 2012 12:07 PM in response to JDPISANI

This is just more indication that Apple's vaunted quality control is slipping. Even though Apple does handle things when you go to the store, it is still an inconvenience expecially given the amount of money being charged for these machines. Also asking us to pay $349 for apple care is also riduculous. Unfortunately it seems you better factor the cost of apple care in the TCO because if these problems happen in a new product in the first few weeks of existence, what happens 2-3 years from now.



Not saying that non-apple vendors don't have their share of issues, but the cost of PCs is much less and even if you pay for the extra coverage, you're still paying a lot less.



Apple needs to get their act back together on the quality front. Happy to keep chugging along with my 17" MBP.



Now I need to go read up on the battery issue thread.

Jul 8, 2012 12:10 PM in response to mittense

I have seen this issue on my original RMBP and received a replacement a few days ago. I was able to reproduce the ghosting issue on the replacement a day later. The replacement was produced week 28. I have until Friday of this week to decide what to do. I talked to 1800MYAPPLE who said that they will talk to Apple engineers starting on Monday.

Jul 9, 2012 12:31 PM in response to mittense

I shared my ghosting experience on Macrumors, but I do have an update I wanted to share as I just received my replacement retina.


Just to give an update and make a long story short, I ended up speaking with someone higher up in Apples Executive support team and just received my replacement today.

The display appears to be much better, I can notice the very faintest "ghosting" after amount 15 minutes of a static website on a dark gray background. It's too hard to photograph and I do not see it on the dashboard which was my main issue before.

What do you guys think? I'm starting to believe that under the right conditions and the right image/website you can probably see a little image retention on any retina screen. It's just nobody really notices it, or looks that close.


Would love to hear your opinions and if you think I should send mine in for a second time.

Jul 9, 2012 12:39 PM in response to Dave Jakowenko

Dave,


That sounds more like the normal image retention you can expect on any LCD screen, particularly early in its life. I don't think its much to worry about.


My new screen is basically flawless, though I haven't done any tests for more than 5-10 minutes. I'm not really looking for a problem. The old display was clearly defective and the problem was noticible with light/general use (30 seconds).

Jul 11, 2012 10:56 AM in response to bizi1234

So after receiving my second retina, here are some images I tried to take displaying the ghosting. Was hoping to see if you guys think this is normal/acceptable due to the IPS display, or if I should call Apple again and ask for another one.


The website I left on the screen was, http://flightaware.com. You can see from the images some of the outlines of the "grid" layout from the website.


Actual picture

http://f.cl.ly/items/0001401W121d2y3m2b0M/og.jpg


Bumped up contrast so it is easier to see "ghosting"

http://f.cl.ly/items/1B2h0e3H0a1p1d19350j/high-contrast.jpg

Jul 11, 2012 4:29 PM in response to Dave Jakowenko

Dave, the issue my display has is similar. I have never noticed it until today. I left a chat window open for about 30 minutes while I was watching TV and then I opened a Safari window and navigated to a page that happens to have a dark background (daringfireball.net). I actually thought it was a CSS trick he was testing out (transparent background, etc) but after some digging it turns out it is in fact this ghosting issue. Maybe mine is worse than yours. Should I be going to the Apple store for a replacement?


FYI I ordered mine the day of the keynote, so this is one of the first batches. Maybe a dud? Anyone have any ideas?

MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

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