How to permanently disable voice control

RDPH wrote:

Meg_St. Clair, I will take your word for it that if you disable Siri, Voice Control is automatically enabled. However, in my opinion this is a poor design. The developers should have allowed the selection of Siri, Voice Control, or neither.

Then you should tell them that:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

I just talked to the Apple Hong Kong technical support through their online platform... They told me that, (1) you cannot turn off because this is a build-in function since IOS7😠; (2) probably the "voice control problem" is due to your hardware, so, please backup and take your iphone7 to Apple Store Genius Bar for maintainence😠😠; (3) I asked if it is possible to have an option in the future for users to turn off this function, the reply I got is that "there are not much customers encounter this problem" (that means they do not even bother to acknowledge my problem encountered is a "problem")😠😠😠... well, after all, the lesson I learnt is that I will NEVER ask for help from APPLE online platform again, and I think it's time to start looking for an alternative (Android phone)

yeeyeeyee wrote:

I will NEVER ask for help from APPLE online platform again, and I think it's time to start looking for an alternative (Android phone)

You should do what best meets your needs. No one here cares which phone you decide to use.

Best of luck.

Meg St Clair, like an overwhelming number of Apple cronies trolling this discussions forum since always, is a pompous æss who never understands (seemingly with purposeful intent) the concerns brought by users to the very forum where assistance should be found for their Apple devices. Instead, they find their most useful response to be things like, 'You should do what best meets your needs. No one here cares which phone you decide to use.' They basically accuse everyone in a very ableist and elitist fashion of being stupid and using their device incorrectly. Seriously, shut the **** up unless you have something that helps the user. This isn't the Eat-it-if-you-do-not-worship-Apple forum. What best meets their needs is an actual Apple-provided solution. In this case, the ability to leave voice control fully and always disabled.


It is not unreasonable to want for the home button to do nothing except for illuminate the screen, to unlock a device, and to navigate a device while unlocked. I posit it is very much a concern of accessibility and basic usability. Not everyone using an Apple device uses it the exact same way as you, Meg.

Personally, I cast a million votes for full home button option control that allows fully disabling voice control in the highest sense without affecting other home button, Siri, or accessibility settings.

iOS 10.x seems to have shortened the time required to hold the home button before voice control is activated. It's too quick that half of my attempts at screen capture (home + lock buttons) instead enable voice control, then immediately lock the device, no capture recorded. It's only like this because Apple changed it to be like this. Again, not everyone uses their device just like Meg uses hers. If you can imagine it, some people prefer Apple devices yet live with health concerns that limit their ability to press buttons together within a half-second sequence.

Alas, Apple was sure everything is just right. I tell you it is not, it can be better and inclusive of many more users with a couple of options alongside the existing options. I know that Apple likes revenue and more of it. Doesn't that happen by successfully reaching existing as well as new customers?

Copied to http://www.apple.com/feedback/ . Save your breath, Meg.

himguyy wrote:

It is not unreasonable to want for the home button to do nothing except for illuminate the screen, to unlock a device, and to navigate a device while unlocked. I posit it is very much a concern of accessibility and basic usability. Not everyone using an Apple device uses it the exact same way as you, Meg.

I understand precisely what people want in this thread. I also understand that no one here can give it to them. I never suggested that what anyone wants is unreasonable. Personal preferences are just that: personal. I'm really not sure where all this hostility comes from. You might want to consider why one feature of a luxury device is causing you to be so rude and unpleasant to someone you don't even know. I understand it would make you feel more validated if everyone here agreed with you that this is somehow an awful thing. But, that's not likely to happen.

What I am suggesting is that no one here can make the change people want. And, more important, if something like that makes you so unhappy, you should definitely get a different phone. No one should make themselves that agitated over a little bit of metal and glass.

No one cares, Meg. You're not helping.

himguyy wrote:

You're not helping.

You may finally be starting to get it: no one here can get you what you want.

Indeed, and you were never needed here all the same.

The personal preference happens to be shared by untold throngs of people, becoming kind of a shared or collective preference. All are fortunate to have such a luxury device, some especially so as a means to access health care and providers, or to record life-criticial information in a snap. That is now ever more impacted. And while that remains true, I invite you, Meg, to quit being so ableist and elitist in every comment you produce. No one cares, you're not helping except to increasingly appear to be a genuinely uninformed, perhaps obliviously-privileged person.

himguyy wrote:

The personal preference happens to be shared by untold throngs of people, becoming kind of a shared or collective preference.

Please provide citations for the statistics that back up that assumptions. What's funny in all of this is I've never state what my preference is. You've just made a whole bunch of assumptions. The fact that one can't permanently disable voice control does not limit anyone's access to healthcare providers or prevent them from recording data.

Ableist? Telling people that they should submit their feedback to Apple and chose the tool that best meets their needs is ableist?

And of course I'm privileged. I'm white and I live in the U.S. I'm guessing, based on your user name that you're male. If so, that puts you smack in the privileged category yourself. In fact, it's the privileged group that tends to think it's okay to disparage the ideas of women, insult them and generally attempt to silence them in public spaces.

I will do that Meg.

To Meg St._Clair and himguyy. Your last many messages have done nothing to help with the discussion at hand. Mean-tempered banter really should be done elsewhere. Kindly take your anger and accusations off this forum. I suspect that you both know better--this is not the place for the back-and-forth argument.

Actually, the above was not meant to be addressed to you, jrryan. It was for Meg St._Clair and himguyy.

I am having same issue 😟 I have always had Siri off, and never even knew this stupid voice control existed until the last update 😢 and so far its seems no resolution to the issue

Haha I have the exact same issue himguyy. Every time I screen capture it makes the ****ing bling noise and then locks the phone. How is there no fix to this?

Re-edited: gave irrelevant answer, please ignore