Where did RSS go in Safari 6???

JonK.. wrote:

there is a good reason why they did it... not researching why (or the next generation of that type of service) is having one's eyes wide shut...

No there isn't a good reason. In a company of 47k+ people, a few incompetents are bound to slip thorugh, and one of them demonstrated poor judgement.

As of right now, there is NOTHING that presents a new viable alternative to RSS. No HTML5/H.264 equivalent for Flash, no CD-RW/jumpdrive equivalent for floppies. Neither is there any noticeable performance (Flash), simplicity (floppies), or anything-else gain from the removal of RSS.

Our favourite company made a bad call (just as they did with Save As/Duplicate). Not the end of the end of the world, but they have to learn from it and reverse it.

Agreed. Today is the 25th anniversary of the unveiling of Apple's HyperCard. It would be nice if Apple honored this date with some clue as to what happened to RSS in Safari 6. Is it gone forever, and if so, why? If it was disabled until the XSS bug could be fixed, could you let us know or maybe leak some news to a reliable Mac news outlet? Thanks!

I've added my feedback to Apple to restore RSS. The bizarre thing is that it's still there, tantalizingly beyond my reach but not usable.

There doesn't seem to be a way to search only this thread, so I apologize if this has been brought up already.

I'm on OS X 10.7 (Lion) and Safari 6. I have all my feeds of interest in the bookmarks bar. If I do Bookmarks > Show All Bookmarks and choose the bookmarks bar to view, I see all my wonderful RSS feeds displayed in -- well, iTunes calls it CoverFlow, not sure what it's called in Safari -- in exactly the way each of them appeared in Safari 5, down to the unread entries having the light blue background. So the code is might still there in the product, or it could be a screen print--the display is a few days old. But if I click on that "cover" it still switches to Mail, which I can't get into unless I set up an e-mail account, which I don't wish to do.

I do find that if I use invalid@invalid.invalid, mail.invalid.invalid and smtp.invalid.invalid, I can set up a dummy mail account and get to the RSS feed contents, but now I have to view each item one by one, one click per item, instead as a continuous web page the way I could in Safari 5.

I want my RSS-as-a-single-page-in-Safari back!

Follow the instructions in the link below to - uninstall Safari 6 in Lion - install Safari 5.1.7 - get RSS back.

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/57916/how-do-you-remove-safari-6-on-mac -osx-10-7-4

If your downgraded Safari does not work, install Safari 5.1.7 again using the Safari5.1.7LionManual.dmg

Just adding my bitter disappointent that Apple seem to be going way off track on this RSS issue. Safari 6 is definitely *not* an improvement and never will be without the integral RSS reader that made RSS so easy. Waken up Apple!

Allan Eckert wrote:

Apple is NOT here.

Don't be niave. Any thread with 18,000+ Views and 280+ Replies/Complaints has the attention of Apple. How do I know? Just try to post the email address of anyone on the Safari development team and see how long it takes to be removed... They are watching this thread, message-for-message.

Allan Eckert wrote:

Yes. The mods are but not the Apple engineers.

Allan

Considering that I and others have personally invited several of them to view this thread, and again, combined with the traction that it's received -- I respectfully disagree.

The fact that infringing comments are removed within mere seconds of posting, goes to show that this thread has the full attention of the moderators -- which would suggest to me that it would likely be talked about amongst the team leaders. Again, squeeky wheel.

This is the first time ever in over 18 years that I hate my Mac computers, i.e. after loosing RSS in Safari 6.

And now it seems as the ".Mac Reader RSS service" on both my iPhone and iPad are closed down. At least it's not functioning at the moment. The iPad is therefore rendered useless for me. The iPhone is now just a GSM-telephone for me. I am not an "app" or "game person".

This is a whole new situation and I am absolutely speechless. No warning, no nothing. Half of my office is gone and it feels like my desk hat been replaced by not-a-single-thing.

I am truly shocked

Regards

Gunnar Rögnvaldsson wrote:

I am not an "app" or "game person".

If you're not using app's or the appstore I'm pretty sure Apple is worried about you for totally different reasons than your opinion on RSS. They've obviously failed to communicate with you or you've failed to listen. I am a complete convert to the appstore model. The appstore creates a profit motive for small time developers who can find niche's that are under served. Even in it's infancy the OSX appstore still has an amazing array of applications performing niche funcitonality that I find useful. The app store is a revolution and you're really missing out on making full use of you Mac if you aren't using it.

Gunnar Rögnvaldsson wrote:

This is the first time ever in over 18 years that I hate my Mac computers, i.e. after loosing RSS in Safari 6.

Sometimes, in order to push the envelope forward mistakes are made. Let's hope this is one of those times and that Apple is listening and correcting rather than abandoning us. Please be sure to file a bug report and safari feedback and talk to your friends about doing the same.

Ya know, really professional organizations that CARE about their customers give some warning. They say something like "XXX is depreciated and will go away in the future." It gives people a chance to plan.

Thank your for your reply

I have already sent Apple feedback. And I am afraid it was equally "gentle" as Apple's removal of Safaris's RSS-workspace and the whole RSS-workplace was to me.

This situation reminds me of the old "Mozilla 0.7+ situation", just before Apple created Safari. The argument then was that the OSS-community would provide the web-browsing capabilities to our platform. Then Steve launched Safari. At last.

I have to overlook about 150 - 200 feeds on a dayli and weekly basis; a) many of the worlds statistical offices RSS-feeds, b) Banks research departments RSS-feeds - c) professional papers RSS-feeds - d) organizations RSS-feeds - e) the media RSS-feeds - f) governments ect. Safari dit this as the best RSS-tool in the world, integrated right into my platform. I live to know and know to live.

This is now all gone. "My paper is gone".

What he **** is really going on?

Best Regards

All day long, yesterday was reader.mac.com down, so no feeds (at least simple to consult and read) nor on iOS nor in Safari.

Today, reader.mac.com is up and running agan. I hope it will continue to work and be still functionnal in iOS 6.

I need rss feeds in Safari as soon as possible. I already wrote to feedback at Apple.

Meanwhile, I am reluctant to buy a new Retina MacBook as these need Mountain Lion and thus Safari 6.

I recently bought a new MacBookPro, so I am still under AppleCare.

I called AppleCare to note that my RSS bookmarks, imported from Migration Assistant, were not functioning.

The support person had nothing to say, other than to confirm that the RSS functionality was removed. I asked him to escalate it as a bug up to engineering. He basically shrugged that off saying he could mention it to the other support staff but wouldn't be filing it as a bug.

So when I got the followup survey of my AppleCare experience, I gave extremely low marks, that my problem was not solved by the support person, and gave the details that this is a regression. I stated my belief that regressions should be of the highest priority bugs to fix, as they impact functionality customers were actively using.

Not sure if it helps or fell on deaf ears, but I'm at least trying to make Apple aware of how much they've affected users.

As for the "App Store" model: I dislike this. I should not have to weed through a handful of apps to figure out which one performs the function that Safari with the OS used to perform (which I cannot downgrade!), buy it without possibility of return/refund, only to discover it's not really what I'm looking for (which, it never can be, it's not integrated into the very browser I'm using to read the websites serving RSS).

darudy wrote:

As for the "App Store" model: I dislike this. I should not have to weed through a handful of apps to figure out which one performs the function that Safari with the OS used to perform (which I cannot downgrade!), buy it without possibility of return/refund, only to discover it's not really what I'm looking for (which, it never can be, it's not integrated into the very browser I'm using to read the websites serving RSS).

I don't begrudge anyone wanting their RSS in Safari. But, if you look in the appstore there are tons of RSS readers that are popular. Logically, there are tons of people buying those instead of using Safari's built in RSS. Not to mention the popularity of online services offered by Google and others.