Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out

Tout à fait d'accord avec ce qui a été dit : il est important d'avoir dans une même fenêtre le calendrier et les rappels. Séparer ces deux fonctions n'a pas de sens et pose un gros problème d'ergonomie.

I'm throwing in my hat with this. You are all vary right and to be honest I'm a little disappointed the no one official has at least come on and posted at least the reason why this is the case.

The thing that makes apple great is how intuitive and seamlessly connected everything is. Why did the ball get dropped with this.

omg this 'development' is a huge step back!!!

Apple please fix it - and fire the idi*t who is resposible for that...

Yes this is so annoying. Why did they separate these two functions, they belong in one application not two.

Just want to add another voice. Reminders isn't as useful for a business user without integration with iCal. I can use Notes for things without due dates, limiting Reminder's usefulness.

I'm new to Mac so I've never had integration spoken about earlier in this thread but for an operating system that "just works" I'm surprised this doesn't.

Having said that, I'm not going back to Outlook. :-)

FYI, I would really prefer that Apple fixes this integration, but I found that the third party application BusyCal integrates these nicely and integrates with iCloud as well. I'm on the 30 day trial and so far so good. The only problem with this is that if Apple changes anything it's possible that it could stop working.

rekster9,

Thanks for the info. I'm trying as much as possible to avoid third party apps for something like this but I'll take a look.

Jim

rekster9 wrote:

FYI, I would really prefer that Apple fixes this integration, but I found that the third party application BusyCal integrates these nicely and integrates with iCloud as well. I'm on the 30 day trial and so far so good. The only problem with this is that if Apple changes anything it's possible that it could stop working.

I use BusyCal too now : it's quite the same than iCal, and it is syncronized with Reminders and Calendar via iCloud.

$30 (BusyCal licence) added to ML price in order to find back iCal : I'm so happy, thank you Apple ! 😟

Its crazy you would have to pay extra for a function that was already there. I get that it doesn't fit together for your iphone but aaargggh

I don't like paying $30 for someone else to fix Apple's mistakes but if it makes my life easier then so be it. I like the fact that you can drag tasks (reminders) in and out of the calendar with this program, plus just hold option down if you want it to remain in the tasks list.

I just find it ridiculous that I go to work and have to open two separate programs to see what I need to get done. It's counter productive. Hopefully Apple fixes this nonsensical nonsense, as I don't think it's right I have to resort to another software vendor to do what Apple should have done in the first place with their product. Whoever was behind separating these two functions on the Mac should be fired immediately for incompetence.

I simply ignore Reminders and use Calendar. If I need a reminder I create an event with an alert.

Sure but I like to have a list of tasks that need to be done, and often they aren't scheduled events in a calendar. If they need to become scheduled I can do so easily, plus have a nice overview of tasks and scheduled calendar events all in one.

rekster9 wrote:

Sure but I like to have a list of tasks that need to be done, and often they aren't scheduled events in a calendar. If they need to become scheduled I can do so easily, plus have a nice overview of tasks and scheduled calendar events all in one.

I like that as well. I miss iCal's "To Do List." I know it's my own choice, but just haven't taken the time to get familiar with Reminders. My theory: everything I do takes time and is therefore an event. The only difference is that now I am required to assign a date and time to everything I put in Calendar. But as I get older, maybe that's not a bad thing.

I'm glad I've found this thread: I've been going mad about this for days. The level of incompetence that's come out of apple recently just screams complacency and arrogance. The most useful thing in the world for me right now would be for the calendar on the day tab (on icloud and ipad) to list my daily to-dos that are on my reminders. There should be seemless integration between the two. The fact that my calendar currently reads 'no events' when I have 5 events for today (all with 9am - the default - time reminders) on my reminders app sums it up. It's beyond poor.

The calendar simply cannot double as a reminder list. It takes far too long and looks very cluttered if you keep adding extra 'all day' events. I also want incomplete events to carry on into the next day until I get round to doing them. With low priority tasks it's inconvenient adding 'repeat daily' every day, to the point in which I'm debating whether or not to use a notepad as a personal organiser. At the moment I'm just sticking to using the reminders app on it's own, then scheduling seminars / lectures / social events / deadlines which have an actual time on calendar, then things without a particular set time on reminders (so basically the bulk of what I'm doing is on reminders). In an ideal world apple would sort out it's calendar system so that you have your tasks back on the side with their various categories (eg. work, family etc) listed, as well as a way of 'seeing all' tasks, and finally all of the tasks you have listed for that day. Then in the 'day' view having your daily tasks marked on the calendar, with a roll over effect if they aren't completed. An option should also exist to be able to set a daily task without a time commitment (reminder alarm).

So basically just being able to have everything on one page. If you had a paper diary you'd be able to make appointments (ie. meeting @ 5pm), general events (gym, some point in the afternoon), and then just small reminders (buy milk). How apple can mess up such a simple concept is beyond me.

If anybody could help, I have a PC, but use my ipad, iphone and icloud for my organisation. If I bought busycal - around 6/7 GBP in the App Store - would I be able to use it for the functions I've complained about above?

I guess I'm not the only one disappointed about the latest changes in iCal. I use iCal as a defining app on my MacBook Pro. It's open virtually all the time and the combination of a 7-day calendar view + to do list is indispensable. I can't see the merits of separating "reminders" into a separate app, which only serves to make things less usable. What happened to simplicity? Making an endeavor more work and more time consuming is a step backwards. Please change this back-it was simple and a great tool for managing events and to do's.

Don't know if you've noticed, but there are virtually zero entries on this subject that are positive about the change. I have not upgraded to Lion or Mountain Lion because of it, and I don't like the idea of changing to another calendar program and/or to do list program. Apple had it right and then out-tricked yourself with the latest changes. Enough said.