My "Not Junk" button is missing

I bought my Macbook Pro a few days before upgrading to Mountain Lion so I don't know if this is an old problem. I've been satisfied with the Mail app with one exception. When mail shows up in a spam folder (using Gmail) incorectly, I can't figure out how to mark it as "not junk". Accordng to mail help there should be a thumbs up icon available to do this, but I've tried customizing the toolbar and the icon isn't there, and it doesn't appear as a menu option.


Any suggestions short of reading my email in a browser? I use several email addresses so thats a big hassle.

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Posted on Aug 8, 2012 10:10 AM

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Posted on Jan 19, 2013 11:42 AM

Looks to me like what happens is if *Mail* does not mark the message as junk, but it winds up in the junk mail folder somehow because something else -- Gmail in my case -- puts it there, then the "not junk" button is missing. Also the message does not have apple's little junk icon next to it. Therefore the thumbs up/down icon in the menubar shows as "down". If the message is then selected, and then you click the thumbsdown icon, the icon changes to thumbsup, the message is marked with the junk icon, AND the "not junk" button appears. This is a bit of an ugly workaround which apple should fix if they can -- say by marking every message that ends up in the junk folder as junk, no matter how it got there. One more "Mail doesn't really play nice with Gmail" issue.

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Jan 20, 2013 11:33 PM in response to Jeffrey Jones2

Exactly. I strongly suspect that earlier questioners on this thread had managed to messages into the junk mailbox in a way that circumvented Mail having put it there. Therefore Mail had not marked it as junk. Therefore, like you say, there was seemingly nothing for Mail to learn by telling Mail that the message was "not junk", so no button. This is where coordinating Mail with Gmail gets tricky. In my case I have things set up so that what Gmail thinks is spam ends up in my junk mailbox. Could I just pass everything through from Gmail to Mail and let Mail alone do the junk/spam filtration?

Sep 22, 2013 7:18 AM in response to kgpmcn

kgpmcn wrote:


iMac 21.5" Late 2009

Mountain Lion 10.8.5

Mail 6.6


I am having the same original problem. My "Not Junk" button is missing. It was there until recently, but now seems to have disappeared - after an update, no doubt.

Are you saying that neither the thumbs up or thumbs down button exists on your toolbar?

And when you customize, there is no Junk ("thumbs down") button available.


It is only one button. There isn't a Junk and a Not Junk button. They are one-in-the-same. The function changes depending on the way the message is marked.

Sep 22, 2013 8:49 AM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

Hi.

I have the Thumbs Down button in the control bar, but not the Thumbs Up button. The Customize option does not show the Thumbs Up button.


Since 2010 I have used OS X 10.6, 10.7 and 10.8. I suspect that things have changed over releases. With 10.8 being buggy, I have reloaded it 3 times since spring and have lost track of what happened when.


In the past, I have seen both Thumbs Up and Thumbs Down buttons side by side. Indeed, as I have said, in posts from 2011 and 2012, the fix was to move the Thumbs Up button to the control bar in the manner you describe. Maybe, in 10.8 seeing both buttons (or both icons) is a fault and the curing of that fault (an update?) is what is triggering the current spate of "Where's my Not Junk button gone". Either that, or we're all suffering from some mass hallucination. 😝


I think, perhaps, that the problem should now be, "Why does the Thumbs Up daemon (am I showing my age?) not get invoked on an email marked as Junk by Apple Mail?"


Or in simpler terms. "Why don't I get a "Not Junk" option with a brown email." 😕


Cheers

Jul 14, 2013 2:05 PM in response to Barney-15E

ONCE AGAIN:


I cannot teach it by marking as junk because it only allows you to mark it as "Not Junk." You cannot add the "Mark As Junk" button in toolbar options.


What I am saying is that this is some kind of "Smart Spam" that is using some kind of coding to circumvent Apple's spam mail headers and makes it so you cannot mark it as junk by ANY means. You can only drag it manually to your junk folder. It will NOT teach. THAT'S the entire point. It's malicious spam. Apple should be looking into this but they won't. I've been forwarding this stuff to them as attachments for months.


I have even tried setting up rules to catch the spam and apply them and that doesn't work either. They keep randomizing the e-mail domains so it will circumvent any "Rules" you set up. Again, this is some sneaky and malicious spam. Apple should be looking into this.

Jul 14, 2013 5:32 PM in response to Barney-15E

No. You are NOT listening to what I am saying! It is NOT already marked as junk. It is going directly to my iCloud Inbox. I can only mark it as "Not Junk." There is no way to mark it as junk! I have been getting about 20 spam messages per day like this and it is annoying. Thing is not all junk mail is affected. Some are caught by Apple's filtering and marked as junk and go directly to my junk mail folder but the rest I have to manually move them to my junk mail folder. They are circumventing Apple's junk mail filtering or any rules I try to apply. I'll say it again, you CANNOT mark them as junk nor are they already marked as junk. It's some kind of malicious spam that is evading Apple's mail and changing the attributes in Apple mail. I have even deleted my mailboxes and rebuilt them, doesn't help.

Jul 15, 2013 1:29 PM in response to Darth Bastard

HI,


I have this view:-

User uploaded file

Red.

No Google Junk as it is sorted as Spam at Google and is in a IMAP folder for that.


Blue.

Current Open Mail Box which is AIM Junk from their POP server.

The two "read" ones were moved there by Me using the Junk Button when they were in the InBox folder

The two Unread ones were caught by the Junk filter.


So Yes I have things that get past the Junk Filter but I Can move them.


Green

Just states the last items as also IMAP servers but with less successful filters (compared to Google)


You posted on the 14th

ONCE AGAIN:


I cannot teach it by marking as junk because it only allows you to mark it as "Not Junk." You cannot add the "Mark As Junk" button in toolbar options.


On the 15th you posted


No. You are NOT listening to what I am saying! It is NOT already marked as junk. It is going directly to my iCloud Inbox. I can only mark it as "Not Junk." There is no way to mark it as junk!


I would tend to agree... that if it says "Not Junk" for the button it is not actually the InBox (or the the Junk Folder has been placed in the Inbox) i.e. it must already be marked as Junk for you to have a Not Junk Button.


I also have these settings


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User uploaded file
9:29 PM Monday; July 15, 2013


 iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Mountain Lion 10.8.4)
 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
 Couple of iPhones and an iPad
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Sep 21, 2013 3:04 AM in response to Janice2247

iMac 21.5" Late 2009

Mountain Lion 10.8.5

Mail 6.6


I am having the same original problem. My "Not Junk" button is missing. It was there until recently, but now seems to have disappeared - after an update, no doubt.


I am not using the Cloud or any other Airy-Fairy software. Just bog standard Apple Mail.

I do not even have a Junk folder. My Junk setting is "Mark as junk but leave in my inbox". Just how I like it.


As I say, this used to work fine. A suspect mail would be coloured brown. I would click on it to expand it and on one of the top bars would be a button saying "Not Junk". If I wanted to keep the mail and similar mail in the future, I would click on that and the text would turn black. If it was junk I would delete it. Simple. Me in control of my computer.


Suddenly it's changed. The "Not Junk" button is not there. One solution from 2011 was to Ctrl-Click, the bar, select Customize and drag and drop the "Mark as Not Junk" (Thumbs Up) from the palette to the bar. 'Trouble is, there is no Thumbs Up button/icon in the palette.


I suspect an update, but I'm not sure, because the OS X update procedure was set to auto download and install. I've put a stop to that. It's now download and inform. I control my computer. I decide what goes on and when.


I've also had another oddity, with Safari 6.0.5. I used to be able to control the appearance of the Top Sites display. I don't mean the number of entries (Edit - Small, Medium Large), I mean what it looks like. I can't remember (and can't find) the actual description that I used; I think it was something like "Block". This produced equal size squares. Now it's gone to what I would call a depiction of a panoramic screen. Curving top and bottom, narrow in the middle and wide at the ends. There was another button in Top Sites Edit (might have been called View?) but it's not there now. Perhaps I should submit this as a Safari problem.


Also, when I clicked on Apple (symbol - top left) - About this Mac - More Info - OS X Support, I got sent to www.apple.com/nl/support. My Language setting is English, yet I was looking at a site in Dutch. I don't speak Dutch and would never have gone there voluntarily.


All of this has happened within the last few weeks. Any ideas/fixes? Have I been hacked? Or is an unknown auto update the culprit?


Thanks in advance.

Sep 22, 2013 9:27 AM in response to Barney-15E

I think the issue is getting confused because the Icon changes, making it look like two buttons.


However as well as the circular Thumbs Down/Thumbs Up button, there should also be an oblong Not Junk button. This should appear in a brown "Junk Header" (my naming) that should be placed at the top of the message in the view window. This header should show a mail sack at the left hand side, followed by the phrase, "Mail thinks this message is Junk Mail". On the right hand side there should be two oblong buttons, "Load Images" and "Not Junk". The control bar at the top should show the Thumbs Up icon, with the words "Not Junk" underneath.


This is not happening. The Not Junk functionality is not getting switched on.


As many others have said, I have a brown message, the Thumbs Down junk icon does not change to a Thumbs Up icon, the words underneath the Junk button simply say Junk. There is no "Junk Header" in the view window.


What I would appreciate, is the answer to one or both of the following questions:-


How do I mark the message (in a simple manner), as Not Junk?


If it is technically, by any obscure means, already Not Junk, why is it brown and how do I make it not-brown?


These problems have only occurred within the last month, however I cannot give a specific date when I last "knew" that I had potentially Junk mail.


As I have stated in my original post, I am using ""bog standard Apple Mail.I do not even have a Junk folder. My Junk setting is "Mark as junk but leave in my inbox". Just how I like it.""


Thanks in anticipation.🙂

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