yellow screen retina

my-username-was-taken wrote:

I didn't realize people had yellow tint with LG.

Perhaps there's a degree of severity that's different between all screens in general.

I just know my Samsung is warm...But nothing that isn't correctable with calibration...I would never expect a perfectly accurate screen out of the box anyway, that's not how it works.

Yeah, you obviously do not know much and your expectations are flawed.

NO screen is ever 'perfect' out of any factory. That's why professional people calibrate them for proper output.

However, in the case of the yellow tint —another wording for flawed white point— keep in mind that MOST people do NOT calibrate their display. Hence, webdesigners working with built-in Colorsync profiles in order the majority of people are presented with the most accurate picture. Which is not the case in this instance since the very built-in profile is f*cked, so anything you would produce would end up horrible for most people if you would calibrate your display.

I'm not going to develop a a whole course in print/web schooling here though. Suffice it to say, you do not really know what you are talking about. Which is okay btw. Just do not pretend and give input that is irrelevant and flawed.

It is really cool if you're happy with your yellow Samsung, though. But your point is a bit silly from the beginning. For really, what you are saying is that people should not compain because the car they bought has flat tires, hinting at it's better than buying a car without an engine. That is just silly. Why? In both cases you cannot use your car.

Carry on.

You really like to dig into people huh? I'm in the same boat here, getting a bum monitor. Instead of arguing with Apple you're just trying to make me feel like crap. What's wrong with you?

I know plenty. A. I'm a photographer, B. I went to the best school for graphic design in the US, C. I calibrated my monitor AND printer in the past for Lyson pigment inks as well as Piezography inks for black and white for a variety of papers ranging from Crane to Moab to Hahnemühle. So don't sit there and try to say I don't know what I'm saying without even knowing me.

I'm sorry if you want to believe that you're the only person in the world that knows about this stuff...I don't believe my warm Samsung screen to be un-usable. I do believe my previous LG screen with image retention to be flawed. The only point I was trying to make was if you have a slightly warm screen, I believe it's better than image retention.

That said. It is entirely possible that the yellow tint is more severe from screen to screen and may be beyond the point of saving with calibration. I don't know. But I think it's actually a bit dangerous to say there's something "wrong" with a slightly warm screen...Because MOST people getting their LG screen fixed due to IR issues WILL notice a slightly warmer screen with their Samsung replacement. So a thread like this, if not carefully explained, could lead to people NEVER getting the screen that they are after and a flood of senseless returns/repairs (assuming that Apple allows it).

my-username-was-taken wrote:

You really like to dig into people huh? I'm in the same boat here, getting a bum monitor. Instead of arguing with Apple you're just trying to make me feel like crap. What's wrong with you?

Umm… Nope. I am not arguing with Apple at all. Neither with you for that matter. Apple is being helpful so far, at least...

my-username-was-taken wrote:

I know plenty. A. I'm a photographer, B. I went to the best school for graphic design in the US, C. I calibrated my monitor AND printer in the past for Lyson pigment inks as well as Piezography inks for black and white for a variety of papers ranging from Crane to Moab to Hahnemühle. So don't sit there and try to say I don't know what I'm saying without even knowing me.

Well, if that is the case —and I trust it is— I'll just put your previous inane comment on the 'passionate' shelf then.

my-username-was-taken wrote:

I'm sorry if you want to believe that you're the only person in the world that knows about this stuff...I don't believe my warm Samsung screen to be un-usable. I do believe my previous LG screen with image retention to be flawed. The only point I was trying to make was if you have a slightly warm screen, I believe it's better than image retention.

You believe what you want from my input —it's really up to you—, but as much as I never pretended (where did you actually see that?) to be "the only person in the world that [sic] knows about this stuff", as much if you are the one counting on your lucky star, you can easily understand that is just laughable, at best.

As for the rest, if you think there is anything 'dangerous' in sound professional comments —which you still do not seem to grasp— then perhaps you may reconsider your point which just may be entirely flawed.

Despite your attempt at rationalizing it only shows that not only haven't you read this very whole thread, neither have you the other one about IR where you have been posting anyway.

If you are the photographer you claim you are from 'the best school for for graphic design in the US' you should just know better. Either you missed some classes or you just are trolling — which you already expressed.

Dude, it's my opinion (with the knowledge I have) that the slightly warm screen isn't as bad as image retention. That's all I've claimed. I could be mistaken in the fact that my screen is not as yellow as everyone else's. That's possible, but how do we quantify exactly how yellow the screen is? All I ever said was there's worse than a slightly warm screen that actually CAN be compensated for via calibration (even IF you eye-ball it and don't use a puck) vs. a screen with light leaks or dead pixels or image retention which you can't compensate for.

That's it. End of story...But you come in and are all like you're an idiot and you don't want your'e talking about, etc. What good does that do? Where does that anger come from? At least I had an idea here that may help people work around their issues. All you do is want to start fights with people on a forum and don't do a single productive thing. Anyway, I'm stopping e-mail notifications and going away now. So enjoy.

my-username-was-taken wrote:

[…] but how do we quantify exactly how yellow the screen is?

Are you being serious, or just facecious for the gallery? If you would be a tiny bit of a professional photographer, you would go professional calibration and THEN, you would discover that an 18% overload in Y on a CMYK scale is indeed quantifiable..!

'Best school of graphic design in the US' can only do so much, I guess.

I would agree with anyone who says that you can't judge the screen 100% without some sort of spectral feedback. And while I should own one, many of us don't. Seeing as ANY display can have its colour temp adjusted to either the cool or warm side, a screen should have a decidedly neutral appearance to its whites for a majority of the users who would use the machine. And since a majority of the users are seeing yellow, then that is enough for me to say "yes, there is a yellow problem". It doesn't so much matter what an expert says, as much as what the majority are saying.

Hey Dom,

did you get another MBPr?

I’m having second thoughts about risking to replace my Samsung screen for an LG, despite the fact that I had already swapped the initial LG for Samsung due to outrageous image retention and screen flickering (issues still much worse comparing to yellow tint, but yellow tint is still definitely problematic).

Thanks.

i've got an un-uniform brightness display and the genius bar replaced it. then i found the new display has exactly the same issue as you have. it more noticable when i lunch itunes, and show the status bar (or any app with status bar). the top tool bar and bottom status bar have different colors, the bottom is like yellower, but they should be exactly the same color. i went to the genius bar again and they say they don't see any of this.... planning to go to another apple store now.