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dmauch wrote:

Just out of curiosity gbruns, after Quicken so brutally and selfishly left all of us in the lurch when they abandoned us...

But honestly, I'll always have a sour taste in my mouth after they forced us to go elsewhere...

While there is much negative to say about Intuit, why do you feel abandoned?

I have been using Quicken on the Mac consistently since the 1990's after I finally migrated my home accounting over from my Apple ||c!

dmauch wrote:

Just out of curiosity gbruns, after Quicken so brutally and selfishly left all of us in the lurch when they abandoned us,

Good question.

baltwo:

I seem to be having problems with El Capitan in a separate partition on my 3TB USB external HD.

I cannot dual boot over to it, even after I select it in Startup Disk, and when I Option-boot" I do not see it listed.

Maybe I have forgotten how to correctly partition my HD using Disk Utility. Can you give me a quick primer?

baltwo wrote:

Aside from both suffering from the iOSification paradigm, all I can suggest if for you to review:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/os-x-10-8/1/ and

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/os-x-mountain-lion-t he-10-best-features-1093246/1

Thank you for taking the time to point me to these articles; I will study them.

But it begs the question: If I am to consider the upgrade from Lion to Mt. Lion, why not go further to Mavericks, Yosemite or El Capitan?

Intuit decided to stop supporting the Mac Platform when the PowerPC was replaced by Intel leaving those of us who had just purchased (in my case) a new iMac. I suppose I could have left my financial software on an old dedicated Mac but that didn't seem very practical. It was selfish and careless on Intuit's part but understandably a business decision to which they were obvioulsy entitled. I'm not sure who would take the risk right now especially given Intuit's past history with Mac and now the fact that they are looking to spin off Quicken completely. (See story below)

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-theres-no-grown-up-quicken-for-os-x-lion/

What you are saying is not historically accurate.

At worst, Intuit was just slow to upgrade Quicken 2007 from PPC to Intel, and they were not the only software developer to exhibit this slowness. Some publishers NEVER updated their products for Intel, such as Adobe and its product Freehand.

In the brief period between the time from the release of OS X Lion 10.7 until Intuit did release Quicken 2007 for Mac; most of the users of Quicken 2007 could easily add a Snow Leopard partition to their Macs and continue to use their copy of Quicken 2007 PPC. This was the most common advice given on this very forum for that problem at that time.

Some Mac users, like you and me, purchased a new Mac that could only run OS X Lion put had another Mac that could continue to run Snow Leopard. I chose to continue to run Quicken 2007 PPC on my 2009 MacBook Pro under Snow Leopard for the few months that it took Intuit to release Quicken 2007 for Intel. You chose not to.

The only Mac users with no alternative initially were those who only had a Mac that would run Lion. This problem was short-lived and solved by the ability to run Snow Leopard in virtualization, as others expressed in various threads, and as I published as a common source for the use of Snow Leopard in Parallels:

http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/installing-snow-leopard-and-rosetta-into-par allels-7-in-lion.1365439/

Apple was the worst contributor to this problem as they made little or no effort to warn upgraders of what the real implication of the lack of Rosetta would mean to their inability to run PowerPC applications. Apple still exhibits this problem to this day, as shown by the many Snow Leopard users who continue to post their frustration on this forum at upgrading to Yosemite and now El Capitan and face the problem of not being able to run their PowerPC apps.

Perhaps you should give such harsh criticism to Apple, who is really the main culprit here!

UPDATE: The article, whose link you added to your comment after the fact, was published on July 25, 2011; very early in the history of the release of Lion!

Remind me again Michael, when did Apple switch to Intel processors, and when did Intuit releases an Intel compatible version of Quicken?

Csound1 wrote:

Remind me again Michael, when did Apple switch to Intel processors, and when did Intuit releases an Intel compatible version of Quicken?

Your question is self-serving and, as you well know, is based upon facts that are irrelevant to the issue at hand:

The question is NOT when Apple switched to the Intel processor, for as you very well know, they then included Rosetta in their Intel version of OS X Tiger 10.4 which was so transparent and did its job so well, that most Tiger users had no idea that they were running PPC applications on an Intel Mac. This transparency continued with the release of Leopard and then Snow Leopard.

The issue only became a problem when Apple lost its license to use the technology underlying Rosetta and no longer included Rosetta with the release of OS X Lion 10.7; a major failure of communication to Apple's user base that continues to this day!

Intuit released its Intel version of Quicken 2007 for Mac in February 2012, and for most of the universe of Lion users who used Quicken 2007 PPC, the problem was very short lived.

I'm not looking for an argument here other than to say that I disagree with you historically. Apple announced their Intel intentions as early as 2005 and Intuit released a half-hearted product (kinda works with Intel) in 2007. It wasn't just a short spen in which Intuit abandoned it's Mac customers. Intuit's abandonment has been well-documented.

I didn't imagine that you would answer the question, you never do

"Intuit released its Intel version of Quicken 2007 for Mac in February 2012"

dmauch wrote:

I'm not looking for an argument here other than to say that I disagree with you historically.

You are entitled to your opinion that Intuit abandoned its Mac customers, but you are not entitled to state facts that are historically incorrect.

But his facts are correct, Intuit waited 5 years to offer support to Intel Macs. you answer is the self serving one, again (I really do suspect that Intuit pay you) but that's just my opinion.

You know it occurs to me that most Mac customers could care less about who said what when, or who lost their license, as well as the various developmental stages of OS's. The bottom line is that a loyal customert base, whether to Apple, Intuit, or both deserve to be treated with respect and a certain degree of courtesy and not be held hostage while one decides their next strategic move over the other. A loyal segment of customers got screwed and it's that simple!

Once again, Csound1, I have to report one of your posts as inappropriate for Host editing. As such, I am done with your obsessive need to take positions that are contrary to mine! Debate yourself!

dmauch wrote:

You know it occurs to me that most Mac customers could care less about...

If you read this forum as well as others, you would be aware that many Mac customers continue to use Quicken for Mac.

I already expressed to you that there are many reasons for Mac users to be upset with Intuit.

You are entitled to your opinion!