bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update

I also emailed Alpine earlier today:

"Hi, well as nothing has changed on the Alpine side of things I would say it is Apple's fault, many would disagree 🙂 we are aware of the situation, of course the USB interface with the i-phone still works fine, I would use that till the solution arrives...

Best Regards

Ross Gardiner..."

I replied asking if he could tell me whether Alpine are working on a fix or not but I've had no reply to that.

Regardless of what the fanboys say, this is an Apple issue.

The weird thing is that my iPhone 5 now seems to work fine everytime. For the 2 days I tried it on my 4, it didn't work. And the first day and a half with the 5, I never got it to work either. But now, all of the sudden, it seems to work fine, as far as AVRCP goes. Now, the only issue I'm experiencing is the Bluetooth audio skips that people in https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4318307?answerId=19749118022#19749118022&ac_cid=tw123456#19749118 are complaining about.

Obviously, iOS 6 is extremely buggy when it comes to Bluetooth. The backwards compatibility built into the Bluetooth protocol makes it pretty obvious this is an Apple issue.

Oh, and Go Packers. They got ****** by the NFL like we got ****** by Apple.

I was with you until the last sentence.

KingOfLimbs12 wrote:

Regardless of what the fanboys say, this is an Apple issue.

The weird thing is that my iPhone 5 now seems to work fine everytime. For the 2 days I tried it on my 4, it didn't work. And the first day and a half with the 5, I never got it to work either. But now, all of the sudden, it seems to work fine, as far as AVRCP goes. Now, the only issue I'm experiencing is the Bluetooth audio skips that people in https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4318307?answerId=19749118022#19749118022&ac_cid=tw123456#19749118 are complaining about.

Obviously, iOS 6 is extremely buggy when it comes to Bluetooth. The backwards compatibility built into the Bluetooth protocol makes it pretty obvious this is an Apple issue.

Oh, and Go Packers. They got ****** by the NFL like we got ****** by Apple.

That is fantastic! I called Alpine Tech Support yesterday about my INA-W900BTand got a "Apple is going to have to do something". They were aware

of the issue though. Good to know they are working on a firmware update. Thanks for sharing.

Logged this with Pioneer EU, this was the response - I work in the mobile space - iOS was seeded to developers and orgs some time ago, so that they could be running from day 0. This doesn't fill me with hope... this was the day after release...

"Presently we are unaware of how the ios6 and iPhone 5 will impact on our

units.

Apple does not liase with us or any other third party manufacturers who

support their devices in the development of their product.

For this reason we will not know until once the ios6 and iPhone 5 are fully

released into the market and our research and development department have

been able to look at them and how it maybe possible to get them to work.

Please be aware that it may take time for this to fully investigated and

answers to be found."

I turned my car off 4 or 5 times last night, and my iPhone reconnected each time I turned it back on with full control and metadata. I don't know if a kink just had to be worked out, or if the iOS 6 platform will revert back to losing function with my head unit, but if I have to close all apps and power down real fast as I'm walking to my car until a firmware upgrade comes out, I can deal with that.

I have an Alpine Bluetooth device and since updating my Iphone4S to iOS6 my system won't resume playing my songs. I have to manual press start on my phone to make it play or change songs even- My Alpine device won't forward/back / pause/play when pressed anymore! This is so frustrating and unsafe!!!

I'm considering downgrading back to iOS 5.1 as it was working fine before Apple came out with the upgraded software.

Several people have mentioned that they'd like to revert back to iOS 5.1.1 but that it's not possible. I posted this information earlier in the thread, but I'll repeat that if you have an iPhone 4s, you can go to the Apple store and tell them that you have an issue with Bluetooth with iOS 6, and since Apple won't let you revert the operating system, they will need to give you a new 4s that still has iOS 5.1.1 on it. I got a new phone this way based on the 1-year limited warranty not being expired yet, so anybody who wants to exchange their 4s for a new one needs to do so in the near future.

apu2009,

After I install the IO6, the BT of my car player, one KENWOOD KDC-BT742U stop work w/ iphone. I try many times pairing and nothing happens.

After I turn off and turn on my iphone, I've got pairing my player again.

Maybe this solution works in certains cases!

PS: sorry for my poor english

Same problem on 2011 BMW with latest software update. No artist or album info, doesn't resume play and controls do not work. BMW office also doesn't really work despite iOS 6 now supporting bluetooth MAP profile. Please fix ASAP

Coasterby wrote:

1) I can't see this being an issue of compatibility between the Parrot and iOS versions of AVRCP if the functionality resumes after disconnect/reconnect and 2) I don't see how this could be an issue with Parrot's firmware if it works after disconnect/reconnect. Something seems to be going on with iOS 6 that prevents the iOS AVRCP from properly initiating. Back to my point about the ongoing music play during disconnect/reconnect, maybe a bug in iOS makes it such that music needs to be playing in order for iOS to properly initiate AVRCP?

Or there could be something in AVRCP where some state is supposed to be retained by the receiver of the data stream and that bit of the state machine gets reset on a reconnect.

Apple could in no way conceivably test with every head end (though frankly each BT manufacturer could certainly test with iOS devices; meanwhile Apple made seeds of iOS 6 available to developers months before its release, so why didn't Parrot and Kenwood test their products?)

A good example of designing to standards would be that in the United States, AC current is 110 - 125 VAC at 60 Hz.

Say one day power companies find they can save money by installing a cool new regulator that has been invented that delivers exactly 110 VAC to wall outlets.

But say certain appliances stop working, because they really need 111 - 125 VAC.

The power company isn't responsible for going supplying 111 VAC, even though they made a change that "broke" the appliances; the spec has always been there that stated 110 - 125 VAC, and should have been followed when designing products.

We still don't know where the problem lies, but with each day I become more suspicious that no BT vendor has yet pointed the finger at Apple, as it would take but a few minutes with an iOS 6 device, their firmware listings and a BT protocol analyzer to see what's going on where, yet iOS 6 has been available to the public for two weeks as of Oct. 4.

Frankly, I'm shocked no one has leaked the root cause of this problem to Slashdot or The Register by now; surely some engineer somewhere knows…

As stated numerous times, just because a device doesn't work with iOS 6, that doesn't mean Apple broke anything; in many cases it's the device that's broken.

Most recently, many users found that their iOS devices running iOS 6 no longer would associate with various HP wireless access points.

Why? It turns out that Apple correctly conforms with the latest 802.11n standard, and HP did not (and has since released a fix):

iOS 6 sends a parameter "Extended Capabilities" in its association request to the AP. This "Extended Capabilities" parameter has a length of 4.

The "IEEE Standard 802.11n-2009" states that this parameter should have only 3 as valid length.

Contrary to that, the current "IEEE Standard 802.11-2012" defines the valid length between 3 and 8.

It may very well turn out there's a similar issue going on with the BT/AVRCP standards.

I finally got a response from Pioneer, after about 2 weeks of waiting.

Good Day,

At this time, we are working to evaluate the compatibility with our car,

home and DJ products. Unfortunately, we do not have any information to

share at this time, but we will post information on our website as soon as

possible.

Regards,

Customer Call Centre

Pioneer Electronics of Canada, Inc.

340 Ferrier St. Unit 2

Markham.Ontario

L3R 2Z5

Toll free: 1 (877) 283 5901

Fax: 1 (877) 746 4848

They're staying quiet about it. Great :\

Wow. Just called apple support stating I was going to return the 13 business iPhone 5's because of this issue. Ten minute hold and I was put to a supervisor who gave me his direct line and said "expect 6.1 put in the next week to week in a half, you will be pleased"

Lets hope this guy wasn't just appeasing me temporarily.

My stereo hasn't changed but apple has changed its not hard to see who is at fault, Headsets for calling may work but periodicly drop out but music control and meta data does not work and was working on 5.11, Why should stereo makers update their harware whaen it was fine before ios6? i like how apple havent commented but end users are all arguing over this.

Maybe it is time to send my phone back and try another working handset my phone is no longer fit for purpose as its not doing what its supposed to.