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Album Picks are Driving Me Insane

Because I haven't upgraded from 3.2.4 or asked others for a workaround, I thought I post here before giving feedback.


I'm not sure when the application engineers decided that if stacked images are added to an album the stack pick should automatically become an album pick that must be manually removed even after choosing a new stack pick, but it wasn't always this way. Of that I'm sure.


This is driving me insane because I can't find a way to change the default, and I can't remove the album pick from multiple stacks simultaneously.


After I do the work to choose stack picks, I don't need the album to display a different image as the pick. In my workflow, this is a severe hinderance that costs me time and causes me to run the risk of overlooking acceptable images that I've already chosen to display as the pick. If I need to use the album pick feature, I can make that decision without any help from the application. The main thing that's kept me with Aperture is that I hate LR's DAM- especially the stack feature.


Please tell me that this has been addressed in 3.4. If this is the case, I might just find the time to update my huge library.


DLS

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4), 2.2GHz quad i7/8GB RAM/1GB VRAM

Posted on Oct 3, 2012 8:07 AM

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Posted on Oct 3, 2012 8:21 AM

I'm not seeing that behavior in 3.4.1 on ML.


To be honest I hardly use stacks so don;t remember how this worked in the past but if I am reading your description correctly I don;t get an automatic album pick if I drag a stack to an album.


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Oct 3, 2012 12:56 PM in response to Kirby Krieger

The problem is that this behavior (making the stack pick - which is really just the first image in the stack - the album pick) only occurs if you create an album from a selection that contains a stack, if you drag a stack into an album the album pick isn't set.



Actually while playing around with this it gets a little more interesting. It is not the stack pick that is being made the album pick it is the first image in a selection in a stack that is made the album pick.


So of course if you select the whole stack, then the first image in the selection, which happens to also be the stack pick gets set as the album pick. But if you say only select the third image in the stack and than make a new album from the selection then it is this image that is made the album pick.


So this might suggest a slight change to your workflow DL, instead of selecting the whole stack and making an album from the selection select the image in the stack that you want as the album pick and make the album from that selection. The whole stack will be in the album of course (stacks always go together) but the selected image will now be the album pick. No need to go back to the album and reset the album pick.


Message was edited by: Frank Caggiano

Oct 3, 2012 1:21 PM in response to Frank Caggiano

Afaict, the _only_ time an Album Pick is _not_ set is when you drag the Stack Pick into an Album. If you drag any part of Stack that does not include the Stack Pick, the left-most Image will become the Album Pick. If you drag any part of a Stack that _includes_ the Stack Pick, no Album Pick will be created. If you create a new Album from a selection and check "Add selected items to new Album", you will always get an Album Pick for each Stack.

Oct 3, 2012 2:00 PM in response to léonie

My workflow settled in a different direction. I use Albums and Picks a lot -- but I long ago stopped using Stacks to make Picks from similar Images. One of my early confusions was between Version Stacks and "Similar Image" Stacks (I suggested to Apple that there should be two kinds of Stacks). I found out that I don't need the overhead of software or Stacks to pick the best of a group of similar exposures. (I used to spend too much time carefully Stacking Images, and then comparing Stacked Images, promoting and demoting and rating and culling. Now I simply look though all the similar Images and pick the best one, reject the bad ones, and leave alone the few I think I might actually need in the future.) Since I very much like keeping all Images based on one Original together in a Stack, this freed me from the confusion of not knowing if a Stack was of similar Images or of Versions of the same Original. Additionally, I started to use Albums as output containers, so I make separate Albums for each published photograph or group of photographs, and can, for each Album, designate a specific Album Pick: the monochrome Version, or the adjusted-for-the-Web Version, or the detail Version, or leave it as the fully-developed-for-print Version.

Oct 3, 2012 5:00 PM in response to Kirby Krieger

The workaround is to NOT make a new album from a selection.


It you go into that new from selection album and change the stack picks, the album picks- that you did not choose to assign- take precedent. So if you use albums to divide up the project after you make stacks, Aperture decides for you that the picks you had in place when you made the album are carved in stone! (a little dramatic, but you get the point.) Unless you go through stack by stack and remove the album pick.


This means that after spending hours making your picks and then closing the stacks, Aperture chooses for you to display NOT your picks. You cannot change this default. I'll stop short of ranting about how short sighted this is, and I'll just say what the fix is if one is already in the situation.


Create a new album, open all stacks in the afflicted album and select all. Drag all to the new album, and voila problem solved. Note: you could drag from the project as well, but I think that's less efficient.


DLS

Oct 4, 2012 5:44 AM in response to Frank Caggiano

Frank Caggiano wrote:


Yes that is the concussion that DL and I came to back at the beginning of the thread here I think he was just restating it for clarification purposes.


Yes we figured it out pretty quickly, but a less experienced user might not even know about Album Picks. Therefore, I wanted to put it all in one package. Let's face it: we're geeks. Most users just want the bottom line.


Thanks all

DLS

Album Picks are Driving Me Insane

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