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  • haykong Level 1 Level 1 (115 points)

    According to one review on the Apps store regarding JabberB,


    and I quote ((Feb 4, 2012)


    "This app uses beejive servers to proxy requests to your  jabber Server. This is the only way push can be supported on iOS."


    I'm sure it works for your uses. However, I wouldn't know if it would be HIPAA complaint or not.

  • mille1j Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    you got mulitmilliion dollar liability coverage and a HIPAA contract that we can sign? 

  • Mark23 Level 3 Level 3 (975 points)

    Why do you ask?

  • mille1j Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    well, the purpose of my messaging client is sending clinical related messages, so it needs to be HIPAA compliant.  If I use a third party, they need to provide me with liability protection against HIPAA privacy issues and sign a HIPAA privacy agreement.

  • Mark23 Level 3 Level 3 (975 points)

    You could ask JabberB's manufacturer whether they use a third party.

  • haykong Level 1 Level 1 (115 points)

    Mark23 wrote:


    Articles are never a good substitute for hand-on experience, although I seriously doubt that a site like Krypted would report such misinformation.


    OS X Server most certainly works with Push Certificates.


    Did you ever set up an instance of OS X Server (Mountain Lion)?





    Yes I've setup OS X Server (Mountain Lion) and have email, contacts, and addressbooks pushed. However, I never bothered setting up Apple's iChat/Messages Server since there is no need for my current clients. If Apple truly supported pushing "messages" on OS X Server wouldn't you think they would have push certifcates for messages in the Apple Push Certificate Portal?




    why don't you look at


    and see if you have a push certificate for messages?


    Hey I'm not saying your wrong with your setup. It's just a matter of being HIPAA Compliant or not and keeping messages in-house and secure. I'm sure beejive has their own servers helping with the push.

  • mille1j Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So right now, i have setup the following accounts






    and then i have 5 accounts for my computer users


    The computer users are all working fine, they see each others availability, they can send messages to each other, working fine.


    The ipads are weird.  I've only setup two of the ipads so far.  On one of them, user availability shows up just fine, but on the other the other users do not show up.  they are setup identically other than the jabber id.


    also, when i send group messages to mfdipad3@server.mfd.private and mfdipad4@server.mfd.private from the computer accounts, the message is received on both ipads, but if you reply from the ipads, the replies don't go through to the computer accounts.  weird.  If i send a message to jsut one ipad, it works ok.


    Ideally, i'd have all the ipads share one account so that you can message them all at the same time, but i've tried setting them all up with 1 jabber id and that doesn't seem to work either.

  • mille1j Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have the same 5 push certs that you have listed, haykong

  • Mark23 Level 3 Level 3 (975 points)

    Have you granted access to Messages to the one account that doesn't seem to work at the server serving the Messages service?

  • haykong Level 1 Level 1 (115 points)



           You're welcome to take a stab at finding a solution for millie1j dilemma. However, make sure it's HIPAA Compliant. At least I fixed one issue and that milie1j is nolonger in a double NAT network.

  • Mark23 Level 3 Level 3 (975 points)

    I'm happy for you

  • mille1j Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    yep, they all have access to messages services.

  • mille1j Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    do these iOS jabber clients like Monal, Beejive, etc utilize some 3rd party push server that would be outside my firewall that its just not able to access right now?

  • Mark23 Level 3 Level 3 (975 points)

    Jabber support confirmed the App Store comment about the mobile proxy gateway.


    Jabber doesn't seem to be the right choice for you if you don't want third parties involed. I'm not getting into this Hipaa thing. You could just resort to sending email, that would be almost the same...

  • mille1j Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    it certainly seems that unti/unless apple develops a message client for iOS that works with ML server messages, my best/only option is to setup email.  nuts


    I presume that even if i wanted to use messages on the ipads with an icloud id, it won't talk to my ML server messages account unless I setup my server with a FQDN?