Apple screws Ipad 3 customers with iPad 4

Can you point us in the direction to the ones that you claim seem to think they're ipad 3 is rendered inoperable with the release of ipad 4..I can't find them and this is just you're opinion .So that statement is irrelevant and untrue..

I am a first time iPad buyer and just ordered the iPad 4th Gen. I also have an iPhone 4S and the iPhone 5 was released a few months after my purchase. I love Apple products. I understand the frustration of the "new" iPad (3rd Gen) buyers. It is a crap shoot, but I would never shoot myself in the foot by denying myself of a wonderful product. I purchased a MB Pro a few months before the MB Pro with retina display was released. I love all my Apple products. Ya win some, ya lose some. It's all good.. BUT I will also add to the iPad 3 people.. "I feel your pain." (But I got over it.)

Perhaps apple should now take this on board as a learning curve, being secretive about future releases is no longer good for business in this day and age.I don't mean with regard to specs but just to let prospective buyers/up graders know their is a new improved version coming out sooner from now on rather than previous releases at a 12 month cycle or there abouts. Then those that bought the 3rd gen a month/ week or 2 before or even on the release date of the 4th gen would have waited for the new one to come out.We all gathered the ipad mini was coming out by the supposedly leaked photos of the case and screen and other internal parts.That was no leak it was a marketing strategy which worked and pulled the customers in. Now onto the ipad 4 .No leaks and a bomb shell dropped, why was this is my question??, and only apple can answer this question in reality, we can all surmise why but that's just clutching at straws. They have chose not to and also shot them selves in the foot too.So apples going to have to change the strategy to pull in new business as appose to the existing customers upgrading alone as pointed out in an earlier post.. This is why they've got so many disgruntled ipad 3 owners..I guess as pointed out many times we should now put this subject to bed once and for all and learn by it regardless of how we truly feel.The best way to bite back in future is to not buy the products then they will listen as it hits where it unfortunately hurts most now.By that I mean their bread and butter, they're profits as that's their aim now & not customer satisfaction any longer..

Hi wayne just ignore them, for sure mymac doesnt have or even try and experience xperia phones or even samsung phones thats why he keeps on bashing xperia s plus its android :), he has an allergy with android OS devices. He cant admit it to himself that android phones and tablets especially s3 htc one x and xperia tx are putting his beloved iphone o nth place. :)

Yup apple hasnt done anything wrong, they only fool us ipad 3 owners that our outdated new ipad was on top for 1 year, there was so many ipad mini rumors around the net but no one talks about the ipad 4? Take note ipad 4 is their flagship tablet and ipad mini is just a mid range. If they are not hiding anything aout the ipad 3, why they secretly upgraded it to ipad 4?

Btw my friend and my mom bought an ipad 3 the day before they announced (regular price) it and they cant replace it to a new one because it is not yet available here in our country.

Until now they are selling ipad 3 here with a regular price.

How would you call it?

"let prospective buyers/up graders know their is a new improved version coming out"

Excellent idea, and I'll save Apple the trouble. Here goes: there will be a new iPad5, followed by a new iPad6, followed by a new iPad7. If you are enamored with the iPhone5, be fully aware that there will be an iPhone6, and iPhone7 and, I'm not making this up, an iPhone8.

"my friend and my mom bought an ipad 3 the day before they announced (regular price) it and they cant replace it to a new one because it is not yet available here in our country."

Your friend and mother have 15 days to return the product for a full refund and, when the iPad4 is available in your country, buy one.

carl wolf wrote:

there will be a new iPad5, followed by a new iPad6, followed by a new iPad7. If you are enamored with the iPhone5, be fully aware that there will be an iPhone6, and iPhone7 and, I'm not making this up, an iPhone8.

Hey Whine....er.... I mean Wayne, you might want to print this valuable information out and tape it to your iPad for future referance 😁

Hi heartless_angel28. Thanks for e reply to my posting and agree that they have obviously got a anti-android issue..Theyre excuse and main argument is that the apps on IOS are better than android..I have to totaly disagree & theirs just as mutch rubbish on App Store these days as their is on google play. You only have to look on App Store lately and it speaks for its self..Theirs one thing that iOS has not adopted and that's the ability to get you're money back if you're mislead into buying a app that's not as described..Yes you only have 15 minutes to do this within but I guess that's enough time to make you're mind up..I'm not biased I like both but do have to admit i have more android devices as that's where I started off my trip into the world of technology.I find android better you have more freedom & it's come on leaps and bounds over the last 2 yrs that's for sure and its a fact. Android is stealing the lime light and a very fast paced OS, things that are just appearing on the apple range of devices are at least 2 years may be more behind & again that is fact.Yes the apple fans can say apple go for looks and feel more than android does but android has the edge on new features that's for sure..So no IPad 4 in you're country yet then, is their a particular reason for this?? Or is it one of those situations where it's always been the same there..Are you getting the iPad 4 or are you going to hold off and stick with you're current ipad.

You know what's really sad about those two pratts ,carl wolf with one f & mymac is that they have to hide behind a user name and computer to throw their digs ..Face to face would be a totaly different ball game ,they wouldn't so quick to criticise and be as loose with their pathectic digs..and one day soon they will open their mouths once to often ,So go back slime balls and give you're mouths a rest as you're both just so pathetic it's untrue..

And your real name and location are?

Well my ID kinda answers the first part of that question..Located Bolton and you??? 😀

I've posted earlier on this topic. Then, and now, I'm open to tell all I'm an Apple Shareholder and am not sold on every Apple product or idea. Yet, I'm also a realist and tend to look at the big picture. I also have found, people are generally more sold on bells and whistles, than getting something that really meets their needs.

I haven't read every response, but what I haven't seen a simple comparison of the iPad 3 vs iPad 4. Based on some simple research, here's the ditty (using TechRadar's comparison as it's pretty to the point):

iPad 3 vs iPad 4: Screen

Both the iPad 3 and the iPad 4 come with Apple's Retina display. Although "only" packing 264ppi, unlike the iPhone 5's 326ppi, the iPad's still have market-leading screens.

(JL1365 opinion - winner? Both)

iPad 3 vs iPad 4: Camera

Apple might not have upgraded the screen, but it did upgrade the front-facing camera. The iPad 3 came with a 0.3MP standard definition offering, whereas the iPad 4 makes full use of the Retina display for video chatting with a 1.2MP HD camera.

(JL1365 opinion: who really cares about the upgrade front facing cam? I've yet to meet any iPad user using video chat. I didn't use Skype, so I dumped it. I joined Google+, used the video chat once, and dumped it. The average person I know, would rather simply talk on a phone. So, this is not a deal breaker by any means. The upgrade isn't worth dumping your iPad 3).

iPad 3 vs iPad 4: Processor

Building upon the iPad 2, the iPad 3 comes rocking a dual core A5X processor, with a quad core GPU. However, the iPad 4 packs Apple's latest A6X processor, which Apple says "doubles the performance of CPU tasks."

(JL1365 opinion: whoopee. The fact is, unless you're using 4 applications at once time, which you really can't do on an iPad, like a macbook or PC, most folks won't notice the difference because most use their iPads for surfing the net, checking email, ebaying, yahooing, photos, etc. - Verdict: not worth dumping your iPad 3)

iPad 3 vs iPad 4: Battery

The iPad 4 comes with a battery that lasts up to 10 hours, but so does the iPad 3. Don't think that this is a bad thing though, we noted in our iPad 3 review that despite the high-resolution retina display, the battery life was "more than acceptable."

(JL1365 opinion, if the new iPhone 5 has new A6 and better battery, which reports are coming in the new battery is needed to simply run the new A6 chip, so the battery life is exactly the same as the iPhone 4s. Thus, I predict the same will happen here. I use my ipad 3 nonstop and the battery life is great. Verdict - it's a wash)

iPad 3 vs iPad 4: OS

Apple's latest operating system, iOS 6, was recently launched alongside the iPhone 5, so unsurprisingly it's also featured on the iPad 4. The iPad 3 launched with iOS 5.1 but is upgradeable to iOS 6.

(JL1365 opinion: Well, considering the iPad 3 is upgradable and will be for some time, what's the issue? The reality is, I recently read the iOS 6 upgrade announcement that flashed on my iPad 3. All the fixes and upgrades were for iPhone 5, nothing to do with my iPad 3. Verdict; no issue)

iPad 3 vs iPad 4: Price

With the announcement of the iPad 4, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the iPad 3 would be made cheaper. Apple has different ideas, with the plan seeming to be to phase out the 3rd gen iPad.

The iPad 4 comes in at the same price of the iPad 3, with the Wi-Fi only tablets coming in at £399($US499, AU$539) £479(US$599, AU$649) and £559(US$699, AU$759) for 16GB, 32GB and 64GB respectively. The aptly named Wi-Fi + Cellular versions cost a bit more, at £499(US$629, AU$679), £579(US$729, AU$789) and £659(US$829, AU$899) for the three storage options.

(JL1365 - pricing is the same

iPad 3 vs iPad 4: Connectivity

The big difference between the two iPad generations lies within their connectivity options. The most obvious of these is the new 8-pin Lightning dock, first announced on the iPhone 5.

This is 80 percent smaller and more durable than Apple's original 30-pin offering. The other major difference is that the iPad 4 (Wi-Fi + Cellular version) comes LTE enabled. The iPad 3 did come enabled with 4G, however, it couldn't be used in the U.K. But, with the introduction of the iPad 4 Brits can also enjoy super fast mobile internet when they're out and about.

(JL1365 opinion: if there is any one issue, it's the connectivity of LTE. When you realize those in the UK had issues to begin with, there was bound to be the need to reinvent. Yet, that said, I have a WiFi model, and to solve this problem, I use the HotSpot feature of my Verizon Droid Razr Maxx which get's 4G LTE. Doing this, my iPad3 hums with no issue and lightening quick. The other fact is unless you live in a 4G LTE zone, who cares that the iPad 4 is LTE. 4G LTE is still only availalble in populated states, such as NY, CA,, etc. then in major metro areas. So, if you live in a place that has no 4G LTE yet, what's the complaint?)

JL1365 - Overall, as I've noted before, this iPad upgrade is truly bells and whistles. The iPad 4 (or iPad Retina) stills has the same issues as all other iPads:

1) Adobe Flash - Sites using Adobe Flash, won't work all the time. Adobe Flash is no longer available for mobile devices (except Android Smartphones which can use the last incarnation of Flash 11). So, like Safari on the Macbook, you'll get to some sites or Youtube videos, some work, some don't

This is where Apple failed miserably as they, nor the other big players have done anthing to address the loss of Flash. Jobs oohed and awwed about how HTML 5 Video would take over; well, where it is. Meanwhile, Web designers have to face the facrt that some of their viewers will not see their video

2) Facebook - Both the 3 & 4 are going to be limited on use with Facebook. It's a good example I can give. Go to FB on the normal full site and you can't delete a post; go ahead try it. Instead, it thinks you're clicking on the post and opens any photo. Also, you can't upload more than 5 pics at a time to create an album. the iPad is more than capable to do more than 5 pics, so this is a poor software limination by Apple

I could go on, but my point is, the upgrade is nothing more, than adding 4G LTE and that's it. For those with iPad 3, stay with it, it probably meets your needs. While I'm a shareholder, I don't believe in throwing away money for no reason. This is Apples best marketing feature; get users to continually upgrade, regardless if it's really better or not.

I just bought ipad 5 day before new launch and seller never mention warranty and return policy. The retail store say they do not have return policy. I thought all 3c product have 14 days return policy in Malaysia( I hear Taiwan have). If bought online then you can return. I am very ****** off with Apple retail store. Now I have advised my friend never buy apple product in retail store. You never know Apple what day announce your new ipad become old ipad.

Hi carl, unfortunately we cant return or refund our money, my friend bought his ipad in London and now hes in gib already so he cant go back to london just to return his ipad3 or refund his money, my moms ipad was bought in authorized reseller of apple here in our country and unfortunately they are not supporting 14day return policy of apple. They said that the ipad was sold in good condition and no defects at all, they only replace unit with factory defects and they will refund our money if there is no replacement available.

Until now apple store and authorized apple resellers are selling ipad3 here with the same price as ipad 4.

Sorry heartless_angel28, in Malaysia the price drop nearly us$100 after new announcement. I am ok with ipad3 but I am just very frustrator with Apple policy. I don't need refund but rebate like less than us$100 or $100 apple coupon to new buyer. with the rebate I feel much better and I will be more royal to Apple. I will not buy any apple product anymore at retail store due to shxt policy. I just do not want to be a stupid again. Thanks for your reply.

In PC world here they for some reason they are still selling the ipad 3rd gen at the exact same price as ipad 4..Why they havent reduced them is any ones guess, but cant see them selling many ipad 3rd gens when you get a better spec 4th gen for the same money..