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  • KGeez00 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    With great regret do I see that the new iTunes 1.1 (126) is no real improvement. Also I have, for my troubles have a corrupted update in which all the iTunes permissions refuse to repair. I contacted the iTunes support and they sent me an e-mail suggesting that I get help from the Apple Support, for which I will be charged! Has Apple/iTunes declared war on the loyal iTunes user? I am so distraught, I really am thinking of going back to my CDs and forgetting iTunes altogether. From this thread I get the impression that the discussion has been bogged down by technical issues. This is about a plea for Apple/iTunes to please listen to their loyal users and re-instate COVER-FLOW.

     

    I read somewhere that Apple have said that COVER-FLOW was never used! HUH! EVERYONE I know who uses iTunes used COVER-FLOW. Artists have been complaining about its dissaperance. I see that Elvis Costello's new album cover is just the title in B&W, with a heavy black border. He is believed to have said that he is not wasting time and money on an elaborate cover if you need a magnifying glass to see it! I wouldn't be surprised if this is true?

     

    COVER-FLOW was a beautiful, innovative way to see the artwork in all its glory while the album/track was playing.

     

    Please Apple see reason and bring it back. Please listen to us, we are the ones who made you what you are. Nay-sayers are already predicting that Apple will soon be going the same way as Nokia and BlackBerry. Please prove them wrong and dust off that cap invasion and wisdom you used to wear so well!

     

    Bring COVER-FLOW back please!

     

    Wise Up Ghost - Sml.jpg

  • lawrence305 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I agree, and I'm not a fan of the look of iOS7.  If I wanted a Samsung, I would have bought one.  Definately not worth "upgrading" especially if I have to "upgrade" to iTune 11.  Face it, forget coverflow, iTunes 11 is an ergomonic mess.  When apple forces me to upgrade, it will be to Samsung.

  • BerryCakesAndBoogers Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You guys you need to understand. .

    Coverflow is NOT coming back. 

    No matter how much you beg for it.

     

    There has been a lawsuit between Apple and Android..

    Again.  Android sued Apple because the Coverflow idea was

    Used on android devices before Apple used it.

     

    Android won... it's not coming back. 

     

    Sorry guys

     

    Source: iTunes Support Rep

  • affenpinscher Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Mac Clam, it may be growing on you, but no cover flow is still a deal-breaker for me. I have to have it. Itunes without cover flow doesn't meet my needs because I use it in a studio environment. I have searched extensively and tried a number of things out. I haven't been able to find anything else that will work as well. Since this thread started, I upgraded to IOS7 and have iTunes11 on my PC so that I can sync my devices. Still, I have to keep my laptop at 10.7 and nowadays will need to transfer music manually. That is so incredibly 2003! It's hard not to get really pi**ed off about it every time I am forced to break out the jump drive and copy songs over. So stupid. Apple couldn't have just left well enough alone, really?

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (77,520 points)

    abombaci wrote:

     

       Source code from what part of the what? The hardware, (i.e. logic board, chip, iTunes developer's HTML code etc) ?

     

    Really?

    iTunes and iOS 7 is not hardware or html.

  • Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)

    BerryCakesAndBoogers wrote:

     

    ...Android sued Apple because the Coverflow idea was

    Used on android devices before Apple used it.

     

    Android won... it's not coming back. 

     

    Sorry guys

     

    Source: iTunes Support Rep

    Just because an Apple Rep told you something doesn't make it so. Do you have more context? Do you have a link for the news item that Google has recently gone to court with Apple specifically over Cover Flow? That doesn't make sense, as the patent dispute was between Apple and Mirror Worlds of Tyler Texas (a subsidiary of Plainfield Specialty Holdings, a notorious patent troll). Apple won, and the appeals process has been exhausted.

     

    As to the facts about Cover Flow and Android, Cover Flow existed before it was added to iTunes. It was purchased by Apple in 2006 and added to iTunes with the release of iTunes 7 in September of 2006. In January of 2007 Apple announced that Cover Flow would be included in the iPhone. Android was unvelied by Google later that year, and the first Android phone was released in October of 2008. The Apple Rep clearly had his or her facts screwed up.

     

    In any case, we're not talking mobile systems here; we're talking about Cover Flow on the Mac -- OSX, not iOS.

     

    One other thing: Cover Flow is still part of the current Mac OS, 10.8.5. Apple still uses Cover Flow, just not in iTunes! Go to any Finder window and click on the view option on the right, or hit command-4, or use the View pulldown and select "As Cover Flow." If Apple has a problem with Cover Flow, why is it still offered as a view in the OS? It was the iTunes team that had a problem with it. So when people say Cover Flow is not coming back, my reply is: It's still here, just not in iTunes. (For now.)

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (77,520 points)

    BerryCakesAndBoogers wrote:

     

    You guys you need to understand. .

    Coverflow is NOT coming back. 

    No matter how much you beg for it.

     

    There has been a lawsuit between Apple and Android..

    Again.  Android sued Apple because the Coverflow idea was

    Used on android devices before Apple used it.

     

    Android won... it's not coming back. 

     

    Sorry guys

     

    Source: iTunes Support Rep

    It's on the iPhone.

    It's in the Finder on Mac OS.

  • Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)

    We'll see what happens when the new OS X Mavericks is introduced, but Cover Flow was still there in the beta release of Mavericks -- it was still built into the OS, and third party developers were free to use it.

     

    Again, it's the iTunes team that has chosen not to use it. I would be fine with that if they had replaced it with something remotely as useful.

  • KGeez00 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Then please could you explain the use of COVER-FLOW concept on the iTunes Store home page? This is not a rebuke, this is a genuine request for an explenation. If as it is claimed that the Andriod version was the original, what is so wrong in using it in the iTunes context. Okay money, but, I was always taught that if you have an excelleny idea, even if its from the lowliest of employees or sources and it is excellent for business, and it will satisfy your customers, that gem of an idea will, and must be used.

     

    If it is now written in stone that COVER-FLOW will not be used in the iTunes library, then at least create a facility to view the alum art in all its glorry. There is already a tiny window to view the track artwork being played. Why limit this? I believe that it this facility is available it is not going to take much redesigning to enlarge this tiny window of album artwork.

     

    I know that many iTunes users are cheesed off, appease us lesser mortals who are Apple product users to be heard. If COVER-FLOW isn't going to be used please create a viable alternative.

     

    I remain a regular Apple fan!

  • Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)

    KGeez00 wrote:

     

    ... If as it is claimed that the Andriod version was the original, what is so wrong in using it in the iTunes context....

    Let's not go off into the weeds here. I don't know how this Android misinformation keeps coming up. Look up Cover Flow on Wikipedia to get a full explanation. Cover Flow existed before Google started developing Android. Apple bought the patent, then put it in iTunes. Apple still owns the patent, and all lawsuits over it have been settled, AFAIK.

  • Michael Murphy3 Level 2 Level 2 (280 points)

    Mark Block wrote:

    Apple bought the patent, then put it in iTunes. Apple still owns the patent, and all lawsuits over it have been settled.

    Exactly!

     

    Cover billboards are used instead to dangle carrots for the donkeys.

     

    "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

    - Abraham Lincoln

  • KGeez00 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Precisely my point, I haven't found that this Android claim is not true at all. What I'm pointing out is; even if this false claim can be proved to be correct (unlikely), it is an excellent idea and should be continued to be used. I couldn't give a toss of a 'who said what' scenario. I simpley want the return of a brilliant device to see what cover art is displayed for the track playing.

     

    I was lucky enough to grow up when vinyl artwork was in is creative heyday. I want to continue enjoying that experience, I would like others who are starting to listemn and collect music libraries of their own to appreciate it. It inspired me to be an artist and designer.

     

    I believe that we are being short changed when it comes to viewing artwork that has been agonised over by artists, designers and recording artists alike.

     

    As an application iTunes has no equal, but to remove the COVER-FLOW feature, was to cut off one of its main appendages. I can't help feeling something integral to the listening and viewing pleasure is missing. (Obviously)!

     

    I know that COVER-FLOW is missed by many, many iTunes users. I've heard artists bemoaning this, I've heard radio DJs bemoaning this, I've heard people in music industry bemoaning this. Generally it cannot be denied that COVER-FLOW is missed.

     

    I'd like to think that the Elvis Costello example of his new album "Wise Up Ghost" is not going to become the standard album cover. Why should they waste time, money and effort with creative artwork and design? Or maybe it's a message, (in the title), to Apple/iTunes? (Maybe not, but for me, I'd like to thinks so).

     

    Please Apple, bring it back! Bring back COVER-FLOW.

  • Kenan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    to be honest: Elvis Costello, iTunes 11,  iOS 7 (even no inovation cause mostly stollen from the jaibreack scene)...

     

    Steve Jobs said once: "the problem with Microsoft is they have no taste!". With Tim Cook Apple is sunddenly in the same situation. They have sucked more than Coke!

  • Cascadians Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    There IS no logical reason Apple has axed CoverFlow.  Steve Jobs explicitly praised CoverFlow and reveled in the artwork.  Steve Jobs UNDERSTANDS.  I cannot imagine any rationale that would cause Apple to abandon Steve's visionary delight in such a useful outstanding feature. 

     

    I have not upgraded, cannot stand to lose CoverFlow.  I am praying something lights the beacon of understanding in the current employees so they bring CoverFlow back, and also some of the great features of iTunes that have been axed. 

  • The Mac Clam Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Have you noticed as one last kick for iTunes users who are already disappointed with no cover flow, that any music you dont buy from iTunes Store will NOT show the record cover preview icon in the finder? This is another huge issue that is evident with other threads here and happened right when cover flow disappeared.

     

    I took my computer to a genius and they couldn't figure out why. They even called me back to get to the engineer but no one at Apple on that customer level even knew about it. In the end there was no solution, and they said they will speak to the senior engineers but can;t promise to call me back regarding the issue.

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