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Replacement iPhone 5 from Apple new or refurbished?

So, long story short I'm currently on my second iPhone 5. The first one I received from Verizon had a defective auto-fous right out of the box. I took it to my local Apple Store where it was deemed defective by a Genius. He then offered me a replacement that wasn't in a sealed box, so I turn him down. Mind you I had just received the phone the previous day via FedEx from Verizon. They offer a 14 day no worry guarantee, so I told him I would just have the phone replaced by Verizon so I could get a new unit, which is what I had paid for. About a week later I receive my new iPhone from FedEx and it's pristine right out of the box, no cosmetic damage or flaws whatsoever. I'm content. However I noticed as soon as I removed the phone from it's box that it had an annoying little rattle, but I didn't think much of it. I was just happy to have a phone that wasn't all scratched or nicked up, and had a working camera this time. So it's roughly a month later and the rattle is starting to annoy me. When I walk or move my hand while talking on the phone I can hear the rattle in the earpiece. I think most people would be a bit disappointed with this for such a premium product. I called Apple on Friday and they agreed to send me a replacement. When I asked the rep on the phone if the device would be new or refurbished, he told me he didn't know and that it could be either or. I don't believe he can't tell. Surely Apple can tell the history of a device by it's serial number. My current phone has a serial number that begins with C38, the information in the e-mail I received from Apple yesterday states the new phone has a serial number beginning with DNP. I looked the new device up on Chipmunk International and it appears it's a Week 38 (September) model. So what do you guys think? New or refurb? What annoys me most is to upgrade to the iPhone 5 I had to pay $200 for the device, another $35 simply to upgrade, AND I lost my unlimited data package I've had for the last 7 years. I also have to pay $59 to Apple for the replacement ($29 for Express Replacement & $30 for overnight shipping). Seems a bit outrageous. Thoughts?

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Posted on Dec 9, 2012 11:41 AM

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Posted on Dec 9, 2012 11:49 AM

the rep you spoke to was right they have no idea what you have. the reason is apple treats their like new replacements as new device. the back, button, battery and glass as all been replace and the device has been heavily tested to make sure it works

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Dec 10, 2012 7:21 PM in response to Chris092881

Well I got my replacement iPhone from FedEx today. The back had two or three scratches on the grey adonized aluminum part, as well as what appeared to be a small watermark/stain below the camera. Good news, no rattle at all, which is what I expected. Right now my phone sounds like there is a small metallic object loose near the camera rattling around. It's quite audible and very annoying. Also, there appeared to be what was a white epoxy like substance clumped in and around the entrance of the headphone jack on the bottom of the device. My guess is that they probably reseated the battery, which is right above the headphone jack, and got it into the jack canal. Very sloppy work if you ask me. So much for the replacements being as good as a new in box, sealed device.

Dec 31, 2012 10:04 AM in response to Chris092881

I understand how you feel when you pay your hard earned money for a brand new product, and it feels like the company doesn't care about what the consumer wants in return. It does feel like your getting a second rate product because the first product should've went through the rigorous testing. My Iphone 5 speaker sounds cracked like a tin can and they want to give me a replacement phone since they can't fix it. I'm thinking of looking outside of Apple to have a repair man look at it.

Apple wanted to give me a replacement for iPhone 4S for a cracked screen on a new phone. We got it replaced for $100 and it has worked great ever since.

I know Apple is a business and has to make money, but when brand new products are breaking down and the consumer feels like they're getting the bad end of the deal, it doesn't feel good.

Dec 31, 2012 10:32 AM in response to Sue262

Exactly. Keep in mind that if you have a third-party repairman look at the device, or really touch it in any way whatsoever, your warranty is voided with Apple. Chances are they won't even look at the phone for you. I've heard about this happening to other people I know. A friend of mine bought an iPhone 4 through Verizon, which was sold to him at a Verizon Store as a brand new device. After a month the sound stopped working and he took it to the Verizon Store where he purchased it, only to be sent to the local Apple Store. Apple looked it over and told him there were "gold parts" inside the device, as well as some rust. He was told the phone must have received water damage in the past, and that Apple doesn't use internal gold parts in their devices. So therefore he was on the hook, and Apple sent him back to Verizon. Finally he called Apple in California and got a new phone sent to him, but he never did find out what the deal with the rust and gold parts near the antenna assemly was. It's a really odd story.


My point is, once Apple thinks you've tinkered with the hardware, they won't do anything for you. So proceed at your own risk. As for me, I'm gonna keep fighting this until I get what I want, and think I deserve. I've been through two brand new devices and two white-box replacements sent to me by Apple through an Express Replacement (those replacements cost me $58 out of pocket). Now I'm going to start climbing the corporate ladder until I get a new, factory-sealed iPhone 5 sent to me from China that doesn't have any issues or overwhelming cosmetic flaws. That's what I should have received in the first place.

May 8, 2013 5:59 PM in response to Chris092881

The rattle was actually a widely reported issue. It seems that a batch of phones were having issues with a rattling sound where the battery is. It is because the battery wasn't properly secured at time of manufacture. Chances are they did give you a new phone just one with a rattling battery. Simple solution that have worked for others with this problem:


-Lay your phone down (Screen facing down) on a hard flat surface.

-Start applying pressure and gradually push harder.

-You should hear a small click which is the battery is secured. Hopefully the rattling will be gone.

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