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MacPcConsultant, greetings: Copied from the web site of Cocktail are the selling points for this software:

As I read these items, ALL of these operations can be performed by the available tools in the Mac OSX. Why should any one use a third party software that may or may not perform the activities correctly and be requited to pay for them?

My version of common sense says this is a waste of time, certainly money, for dubious benefits at best and invite risk of possible unknowing harm to the Mac. Even if the software were benign, it simply has no value.

Ciao.

OS X

Good question, but there are good answers:

1. The older versions of Cocktail are free. Onyx is always free.

2. The newest version often runs for free, but not the scheduling portion (the least important)

3. Convenience--- it does all those things in sequence and within the same program.

4. Even if one pays, $19 (nineteen dollars) one time fee is very reasonable/cheap/inexpensive

5. It often makes a big difference in speed, especially when surfing.

6. Never have seen Cocktail (nor CMM2) in pilot mode do any harm.

7. In some of the OSX versions, Apple Disk Utility fails to repair permissions. Onyx is able to do this better than ADU.

8. ... there's more, but this list is sufficient.

I've been using Onyx, Cocktail, and Clean My Mac ever since they each were created and all three have been beneficial and never created a problem.

Still waiting for someone/anyone for post credible evidence of damage proven to be done solely by Cocktail (or Clean My Mac).

1, I still say they are worthless

2, I think that "least important" is the best way to desribe both of them,

3, Just learning to use OS X properly is the most convient for me

4, I think that is more then it is worth

5, I question that point. So far it has been my experience it slows things down rather then speeding them up. I know on Mac I support when I find it that uninstall it speed things up

6, I have seen both of them cause serious damage to systems

7, Totally worthless anyway.

8, I know I can keep on also

How much are they paying you?

You are starting to sound like a shill.

Allan

What does it mean to "use OS X properly" ? How is OS X used "improperly" ?

My experience is with many many Macs in schools, homes, and businesses. I am in no way related to these three software entities and derive no compensation nor benefit from these three companies or anywhere. Just telling the truth and relating my experience.

Your "serious damage" allegation lacks specifics, and is not defined. Please provide solid evidence and/or specifics, and that whatever problem you allege was not due to other issues, viz that any problem was solely caused by one or more of these three fine maintenance applications.

I don't know about Lex but I can't quote any articles about adverse effects.

The only thing I can state is the I have helped other Mac users who were having problems which were cured by uninstalling Cocktail.

In the case of CMM2, I had setup a test system to test it and other so called "cleanup" software. During my testing I discovered that it not only failed to do what it claimed. It also managed to delete some system files which crippled my system. Luckily it was test system and all I had to was restore to get rid of it.

For me that is better then any article to actually see the results.

Allan

Again, lacking specifics and details.

Just a few initial inquiries:

What were/was the problems/problem allegedly cured by uninstalling the program ?

Which program was uninstalled ?

What other manuevers were done in lieu of uninstalled whatever program ?

Was a restart done which could have cured the issue ?

Would enjoy hearing from others who have ever had a problem simply because Cocktail or CMM was installed. Would enjoy hearing from others in which solely either or both of these utilities were the sole cause of one or more problems.

I don't no how much more detailed or specific I can get beyond saying I have seen them both hose up Mac.

If that is not good enough for you tough but it is for me and I stand by my appraisal of them being crapware.

Sure you know more specifics, unless you are falsely disagreeing with me as your form of entertainment.

What do you mean by "hose up" ? Did you check the catalog ? Free space determination ? Volume information block ? B-trees ? Did you have to reinstall an OS ?

What did you do to prove or demonstrate that the program, or what the program did, was the sole cause of any issue ?

Still you've presented no evidence that one or more of these programs were causative.

As we used to say in the military; "hosed up = fubar

A quick Google search will define that for you if you have no military experience

When doing my testing of the so called "cleanup" software, I wrote test plans using the manuals for the software.

I don't care what you think about my comments on this crapware you are pushing. Personally I am comfortable with my position.

Allan

I know what FUBAR means, but you still have not given specifics, decriptions, treatment, evidence, proof, etc. I do beta testing for three Mac software companies, but not for these three utilities, thus I'm more aware on how your failure to provide any evidence erodes into your credibility.

I'm not pushing these programs, but you are failing to report specifics on how Cocktail and CMM are the sole cause of any problem(s).

And I will not do that

I don't think you are worth the effort for me to do that

Allan Eckert posted: And I will not do that

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You won't do it because you cannot do it. You cannot because what you were asserting was simply not true.

This thread is not helping the OP.

I am curious how you come to do freelancing for the company that recenty bought MacKeeper (and MemoryKeeper).

But of course you can give the specifics, that you are asking of the posters here. What does these apps do that is not done for free in OSX?

We have seen you under another name already often here (or another person who posted almost literally what you are posting.

I have told you my experience with that crapware it that is not good enough for you then tough