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Proofpoint blocking email

It seems that iCloud and @mac.com email servers are using Proofpoint for spam filtering.


We run a web hosting and email service company. Proofpoint has blocked on of our IP addresses. I have been trying for weeks to get a hold of someone at Proofpoint to get the IP delisted or to provide more information about the blacklist entry. I'm not getting any responses.


If I were running the iCloud mail servers, I would strongly consider dropping Proofpoint as an email filtering system, since they seem to have fallen off the face of the earth.


The error message being returned by your server - mx3.mac.com.akadns.net (17.172.34.65) - is:


550 5.7.0 Blocked - see https://support.proofpoint.com/dnsbl-lookup.cgi?ip=aa.bb.cc.dd:XX@mac.com


If someone with iCloud's server administration can provide me with a contact email address, I will send you the IP address that is being blocked. If you can contact Proofpoint about this blacklisting it would be helpful.


I will also note that Proofpoint's lookup on our IP shows:


Most Recently Seen as Spam 03/01/2013 15:06:49 GMT


That was over 3 months ago. Proofpoint is not maintaining their blacklist and is not providing a solid service.


We have filled out their form multiple times. Two times:


05/30/13 - Request ID: 339705 - No Response

06/04/13 - Request ID: 340674 - No Response


If someone from iCloud wants to ask Proofpoint why they are not responding to the submissions on their form, there are two Request IDs.

Posted on Jun 5, 2013 12:54 PM

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Sep 27, 2013 4:20 PM in response to amswebhost

I have the same exact situation as described by other's here. I manage a hosting company (with offices in Northern California, servers in Texas) but with one particular server which is indellibly blacklisted at ProofPoint with no rhyme or reason. I just got off the telephone with a very nice sounding man with sales at Proofpoint, he said he would escallate my de-listing request as urgent, but so far no response.


This particular server IP is on NO other RBLs as indiciated with the MXToolbox blacklist check, and the Senderbase.org reputation ranking is GOOD. Yet ProofPoint continues to block hundreds of email account users on this server from sending email to any mac.com address.


Further, we have extenisve, multi-layed security on this server with manifold protections applied to the email server specifically, and we have staff monitoring email transmission 24/7.


We have repeatedly requested that ProofPoint at least supply us with a header or something similar which would give us an indication of why this server was blocked, and what we could possibly do about it. Met only with silence, I am starting to get the feeling that ProofPoint has gotten deep into the hardened cop syndrome that says "everyone is a crook".


Apple Computers Inc. should know better, this is reflecting very bad on their company among hosting providers who may otherwise be strong advocates for their products. Speaking of which, purchased my first Mac in 1984 right after they went on sale, and we are very nearly an all Mac office here in the support department. However...

Nov 30, 2014 9:35 PM in response to apollothethird

Hi L.D.


I hope your clients have found a solution... This has apparently been going on for years.


Others have reported similar experiences in the news:

- http://www.mcelhearn.com/apples-silent-email-filtering-is-just-plain-wrong/

- http://www.macworld.com/article/2029570/silent-email-filtering-makes-icloud-an-u nreliable-option.html

So, those who are looking for a solution that involves continuing to use iCloud for important emails are kind of out of luck... We've been dealing with the same issue ourselves at my company. We tried to work around it but sadly we've finally decided to discontinue using iPhones and iPads for business.


Unfortunately, the silent filtering is a serious problem. In our case, we forwarded our main company emails to the the iCloud.com accounts which were loaded onto the executives' iPads and iPhones. Things worked alright at first, but later we noticed that we weren't receiving important emails. The emails that went missing weren't from spammy domains either. They were university emails, government emails, and emails from major US corporations. One of those government agencies eventually contacted one of our executives via a different method, and that is how we found out that the emails being forwarded to the iCloud.com accounts were being silently filtered.


In our case, for security reasons, we don't load company emails directly onto mobile devices, so we were forwarding company emails to the iCloud.com domain, but when important messages started going missing this became a huge inconvenience and potential security risk (as employees were tempted to load their work emails directly onto the devices - a no no here). We also tried everything to get a resolution from Apple, but thus far nothing has been done. We have not been able to ascertain if this is an issue that Apple intends to fix or if they even consider this a problem.


Unfortunately, this makes using iCloud.com accounts for business related emails (or any important emails, really) a very bad idea. I wish I could offer a solution, but the reality is that those who rely on iCloud.com for company mail will probably end up looking flakey or irresponsible at some point. Those who are sending you the messages will be unfamiliar with silent filtering as most email providers simply don't bounce emails without providing a return message with a reason for why. In Apple's case they filter emails that contain blacklisted phrases as well as emails that come from blacklisted domains. So, it is possible to receive some emails and not others from the same sender. This will again reflect badly on the business relying on iCloud, not on Apple itself, as most will expect to receive some sort of notification that the email has bounced.


The best solution is to go with something like Blackberry, or one of the other business oriented phones... For those who care about security, the blackphone is also a pretty nice option, and there are so many Android phones to choose from that clients can surely find options there.


It's no secret that Apple has one of the best UIs out there, and we really loved how our iPads and iPhones seamlessly integrated with our other mac products, until of course - they didn't... :-/

Dec 16, 2014 5:51 PM in response to Star Traveler

My clients have contacted Apple support about having their IP blocked by Proofpoint, even though their IP was last seen as a problem in 2011, according to Proofpoint, and their IP is on no other blacklists. They have also contacted Proofpoint several times with no response. So what is our recourse? Apple support offloads it to Proofpoint, and Proofpoint ignores us. It is a problem with no solution, other than broadcasting far and wide that this is what you get with Apple.

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