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Government Alerts (AT&T) + MicroCell = dead battery

Previous post with other info:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5111208?start=0&tstart=0


Sat. June 15, I get the Govt. Alerts update (OTA) to my iPhone 4, 6.1.3.

My battery drains fast, used to last 48 plus hours, now lasts 6. I have a MicroCell device at home. Battery drains fast while phone's on the MicroCell network, but not if I'm in a nearby city with 3G service. I have another iPhone 4 in the same house on the same MicroCell network, it's battery usage is impressive, lasts like 72 hours with moderate usage, but this phone runs 6.0, not 6.1.3 and was not sent the Gov. Alerts update. My phone goes from "ATT Microcell" displayed in the top of screen to "Searching" and back to ATT Microcell every 2.5 to 3 minutes, clockwork, like it's disconnecting from the MC, then searching for another network, then reconnecting to the MC. There's a lot about this on the net, old problem. Funny thing, I got the MC one month ago, and it worked great, never experienced the battery drain until the Govt. update; in fact, the MC improved my battery life because I had a stable connection to the MC network and it wasn't busy searching all day for a marginal to poor signal, until the Govt. update.


So, here's my question: How do I fix it, the disconnect every 3 minutes all day/draining battery issue?

Posted on Jun 22, 2013 3:15 PM

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Jun 24, 2013 1:45 PM in response to tvuolo

Good luck with that, tvuolo. I deactivated/reactivated the MC twice (online mgt. page) over the weekend. No change. Try 2 things: unplug the MC for awhile and monitor your battery usage, it should improve considerably. Then look into this. I'll exerpt from a post I have going at the AT&T forum:


Here's a theory, and let me repeat myself, hopefully for the last time, it only started after the Gov. Alerts update, before that, I was connected to the MC, stable connection, no significant battery drain:

My phone periodically disconnects from the MC, searches for a second and re-connects to the MC. All this disconnecting/reconnecting is draining the battery at an excessive rate, even the nice people at AT&T Tech Support back me up on that one. For those of you that are affected (amylyn1970), try this experiment. You'll probably notice your phone carrier at the top left of your screen goes from "AT&T Micro-Cell" (or similar) to "Searching..." then back to "AT&T Micro-Cell" repeatedly. Now, here's the fun part: Launch your stopwatch app. When you see "Searching..", tap "Start". When you see it again, tap "Lap". Do that for 20 minutes. Mine disconnects from the MC like clockwork every 2.5 to 3 minutes, then reconnects, rinse and repeat, all day. Thus, excessive battery drain. Now turn off your Cellular Data (Settings>General>Cellular Data). Now my phone cycles through the disconnect/connect sequence every 25 to 57 seconds. What's up with that? Those of you that are not affected, you should see a stable connection to the M-Cell all day, unless you walk far enough away from the unit with your phone in your hand. Have fun watching your screen that long, I have.


Please report back if you're seeing similar (mis)behaviour.

Jun 25, 2013 9:27 AM in response to rsant39

Yes, the MC seems okay, I agree. It's the phone that's connecting/disconnecting to it that is causing the problem. Have you timed the "searching..." displays as I indicated above? Does it happen on fairly predictable (2.5 to 3 minutes) intervals as mine does? Anyone who is affected should definately call their carrier to report this issue, because only when Apple and, in my case, AT&T, realize that it's not just one person on their network or using their device having the problem, will they look into a solution (patch?) I keep hearing Tech Suport reps at AT&T saying, "We are not aware of any problems the Govt. Alert may be causing." I tell them, "Oh, you will..."

Jun 25, 2013 1:41 PM in response to trebber

I would be interested in knowing what might be wrong with the phone since this is the only thread that I am aware of. I wonder if it is something between the router and the microcell. Especially since this behavior is rather predictable, as you report. Since there have not been too many reports about this, I'm not sure a patch from Apple is what would correct it. Understand, in no way am I saying you or the other posters are not experiencing this issue, I am just thinking out loud as to what other causes it could be.


I wish I could be of more help, but no matter what I do with mine, I cannot duplicate the behavior. Good luck in working through the problem.

Jun 25, 2013 3:59 PM in response to ChrisJ4203

"if it is something between the router and the microcell"


If it was, then all three phones in my house connected to the Micro-cell would be experiencing the same issues because they're all on the same wifi network (router) and all connected to the same Micro-cell. Remember, one phone of the three did not get the Govt. Alerts update since it's still running 6.0. It doesn't disconnect/reconnect all day. The MCell connection is stable and continuous. The battery charge is lasting 3 days plus with light to moderate use.


"Since there have not been too many reports about this"


Not yet. Remember the AT&T Gov. Alerts update just came out on June 15th. Some phone owners are still asleep. Also, not everyone in the world reads the posts at this or any other discussion forum. And yet others keep their phones connected to a charger all day and therefore would never know how long their batteries last between charges. And my son's phone didn't even get the notification that "your Carrier setting have been updated" (like that tells you anything about FCC mandated Gov. Alerts Updates), as I did on my phone at 1 a.m. Sat. morning June 15th. He'd still not know 'less I had told him.


"since this is the only thread that I am aware of..."


There are, on the other hand, an abundance of reports on the internet about excessive battery drain after software updates in general and an even as impressive number of reports about excessive battery drain while using a Microcell device.

Google this:

at&t microcell battery drain iphone


or:

excessive battery drain after iphone update


"but no matter what I do with mine, I cannot duplicate the behavior"


No matter what I do with mine, I can't fix it. And so far, neither can AT&T or Apple. But AT&T is starting, in my case, to get and idea or two, and are finally talking about pow-wowing with Apple about a solution. Keeping my fingers crossed and my charger nearby.

Jun 25, 2013 7:00 PM in response to ChrisJ4203

Like most of these mysterious issues, the answer to the problem lies firstly in the recognition, the chiming in of as many people as is possible voicing their experiences. Then, other knowledgeable people add their voices with possible solutions until one, hopefully, gravitates towards the best fix. And I'm sure all this chatter is monitored by Apple, by AT&T, by Google, until some other brilliant engineer or programmer says, "This needs fixed" and writes the code to pull that off. Keep chiming in, keep proposing things to try, until it works or someone brilliant picks up on it and finds the answer. That's my motto.

Jun 25, 2013 7:31 PM in response to trebber

Since my last post I got to thinking about some things. Let me make sure I have this right now. You have 2 iPhones, or is it 3? You say when you restored when Apple told you, of course that updated the iOS, so are they all on the same iOS now? How many of them have the AT&T carrier update that includes the Emergency notifications?


You said in one that you removed the Microcell from the equation and the phones worked fine. Then after adding it back in, the one device is going back into the search mode. How strong is your AT&T signal at home, and how far away from the Microcell are you? Or, does it not make any difference how near or far away from the Microcell you are for it to still go into search?


You indicate you sent diagnostics to Apple, but did you have them physically inspect this device? I would try that, and at the same time ask them if there is a way to force a clean copy of the carrier update to be added to the phone. I know it comes from the carrier, but I'm not sure if when you restore the device that not only does it put on a fresh copy of iOS, does it put on a fresh copy of the carrier update. If it just the one device after applying the carrier update to the other devices in the home, my only guess would be a corrupt carrier file, or a hardware issue with that individual phone, since the other phones function correctly with the Microcell. Was AT&T willing to replace the Microcell?


Wish I could snap my fingers and this be fixed. Again, good luck and if I think of something else, I'll let you know.

Jun 25, 2013 10:53 PM in response to ChrisJ4203

I have 3 phones, all iPhone 4, all AT&T, all purchased at the same place, same time, all connected to the Micro-cell.

Phones A and B run 6.1.3 and got the Govt. Als. Upd. Both of these phones do excessive battery drain.

Phone B also gets a frequent notification that a phone number needs to be put into Settings even though one is already listed there, in most cases, but is sometimes missing and says "Unknown" (Settings>General>About).

Phone A has seen this notification, but not as frequently as phone B.

Phone A sometimes see Carrier under Settings>General (as if it's roaming) but Carrier disappears after a few seconds.

Phone A and B have frequent disconnects/reconnects to the M-Cell. They cycle every 2.5 to 3 minutes, always. If Cellular Data is toggled off, the the disc/recon cycles every 28, 42 or 55 seconds. Distance from the M-Cell doesn't change this. I've seen this (mis)behaviour within 3 feet of the unit and as far away as 50 feet.

Phone C runs 6.0, DID NOT receive the Govt. Al. Upd. Battery last up to 72 hours, light to moderate usage, does not Search for network or disconnect from the M-Cell when in range.

Phones A and B have "normal" battery life when NOT connected to the M-Cell (48 -72 hours on full charge, moderate usage).

Phone A sent a diagnostic report to Apple who determined that the batery was healthy and normal. I was advised to do a backup/restore on phone A, set it up "as new". Part of the restore process included the carrier update (fresh, as opposed to the original OTA update on phone B), which Apple advised me to perform specifically while I was on the phone with them.

I've had the M-Cell for 1 month today. Deactivated and reactivated it twice via the management website with no affect. It works fine with phone C, the one with 6.0, no carrier update, great battery life. Let me know if I missed anything.

Jun 26, 2013 1:44 AM in response to trebber

AT&T sent me a replacement Mcell but unfortunately the same thing is occurring with the new one. I have felt all along that there was no issue with the mcell because it appears to be connected as all the functioning lights are on and solid. I don't think it is the router as my Internet connection is fine. Not sure what else to do but I hope this is resolved soon.

Jun 26, 2013 5:08 AM in response to trebber

trebber wrote:


Phone B also gets a frequent notification that a phone number needs to be put into Settings even though one is already listed there, in most cases, but is sometimes missing and says "Unknown" (Settings>General>About).

Phone A has seen this notification, but not as frequently as phone B.

Phone A sometimes see Carrier under Settings>General (as if it's roaming) but Carrier disappears after a few seconds.

Phone A and B have frequent disconnects/reconnects to the M-Cell. They cycle every 2.5 to 3 minutes, always. If Cellular Data is toggled off, the the disc/recon cycles every 28, 42 or 55 seconds. Distance from the M-Cell doesn't change this. I've seen this (mis)behaviour within 3 feet of the unit and as far away as 50 feet.

Phone C runs 6.0, DID NOT receive the Govt. Al. Upd. Battery last up to 72 hours, light to moderate usage, does not Search for network or disconnect from the M-Cell when in range.

Phones A and B have "normal" battery life when NOT connected to the M-Cell (48 -72 hours on full charge, moderate usage).

Those symptoms point to problems with the SIM cards in A&B (or a problem with the phones themselves).


Get replacement SIMs from AT&T.

Jun 26, 2013 8:28 AM in response to trebber

While I wouldn't way to say I agree with KiltedTim, it would ruin our relationship, I can see some of the logic. This seems to be the only other variable that has not been addressed.


I appreciate your detailed description as well, given my long dribble last night. The thing that puzzles me the most is the regularity in the disconnect/reconnect. Something has to be providing it this regularity. The other thing that caught my eye in what you wrote this morning is the part about the Carrier selection appearing and disappearing. I'm not exactly sure how the whole Microcell thing works, except for the obvious things, but it does require some additional interaction with AT&T. If certain regional Microcell connections go down, you can experience your individual Microcell losing connection. I wonder if there is something specific to your geographic area?


I read where the other poster had his Microcell replaced, however it did not help his situation.


I wonder if AT&T would be willing to replace the SIM in one of your units to help to diagnose the problem? It couldn't hurt, and it would help eliminate one other variable. Keep in touch.

Government Alerts (AT&T) + MicroCell = dead battery

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