iOS 7 and Audiobook Chapters

iOS 7 seems to have removed the ability to view individual audiobook chapters in the music app. It has also replaced the chapter length with the length of the entire book in the time scrubber. When tapping the top right-hand corner to access the list of chapters, now it only shows one file for the whole book, whereas before it listed all the chapters, just like it lists all the songs in an album. This change applies to my own audiobooks created using the Mac Audiobook Builder app and to Audible downloads. I haven't tried it on an iTunes purchased audiobook.


If I manage to lose my place, scrubbing (even using quarter-speed or fine) through a 30+ hour audiobook is...let's be polite and say "challenging." I really liked knowing where I was in a chapter, being able to see how much time was left, being able to view the list of chapters, etc. My hope is I'm just missing something here and some iOS 7 wizard can show me how to correct this. But I suspect Apple's just updated the app.

iMac, Macbook, iPhone, Mac OS X (10.6.1)

Posted on Sep 18, 2013 2:34 PM

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Dec 5, 2013 12:01 PM in response to R Luben

If the audiobook comes in multiple parts (and many Audible books do), then you can swipe between the parts.


When chapter info is not available, which is what this whole thread is about, but the parts are, then you can swipe between the parts. If the audiobook is made up of a bunch of mp3 files, then you can swipe between the files. If the audiobook is an m4b with embedded chapter info, then you can swipe between the chapters.


I have over 500 Audible audiobooks, and I know how they work in the app I wrote. My facts are completely straight, but I apparently was not specific enough.


You sound angry. I'm not trying to fool anyone here. You can try it for FREE and see how it works.


-Duke

Dec 5, 2013 1:52 PM in response to duke_

Duke, I think your stat is incorrect if you think 99% of people don’t care about the chapters. This thread wouldn’t be 22 pages long if people weren’t concerned about them. There are reference books that divide subject matter by chapter which people refer back to & would thus need chapters. Others may have different reasons for wanting chapters. Even if people don’t care about chapters & just wanted to remember where they left off, every audiobook app I’ve tried (including the built-in Music app) remembers your location where you last left off and most of the apps have the bookmark function - that is the standard these days (except for the Music app). So it seems you’re making most of your pitch based on the bookmark function, which Apple’s Music app doesn’t have, but most other apps do (free ones too). I’d even say it’s kind of insulting if you’re telling people in a forum who are complaining about the lack of chapters to buy your app and then tell them to manually place bookmarks for every chapter. Really? And an extra charge to play podcasts?


Most of the other apps also have all the features that you mentioned but they’re free. For example the Audible app skips backward/forward by customizable amounts (not 99 mins but who wants one that long anyway), remembers your last location, creates bookmarks, keeps the dates/times of those bookmarks, and jumps to whatever segmentation is available. In the last one, the difference from your Bookmobile app is that Audible actually recognizes chapters of audiobooks (at least the ones purchased from Audible) and so it can jump to any of them. Your app couldn’t jump to a chapter because it does not even recognize the chapters. Your app also did not recognize chapters of an audiobook I purchased from iTunes and that one WAS in .m4b format, the format you just claimed worked well with your Bookmobile app.


You may have listened to hundreds of audiobooks and gotten a lot of ideas from people, but none of that matters if the app doesn’t do what people want it to (in this case recognize chapters). I don't have anything to do with any other audiobook app author and I'm not a cheapo who never buys apps. I buy apps all the time but I make sure they do what they claim. In a previous post you mentioned someone sounded angry at you. There's nothing wrong with trying to sell an audiobook app in the marketplace but to do so in a forum thread where people are complaining about a specific feature, promising that feature ... for a fee ... well, it's gonna raise some eyebrows when the product doesn't deliver.

Dec 5, 2013 3:18 PM in response to slashlos

That album artwork tiling the screen in landscape mode replaced what used to be called "Cover Flow" where it showed one album cover at a time and you could swipe horizontally to scroll to see more albums. The problem with that was that there were no music controls except the Pause button so you couldn't rewind, fast-forward, or skip songs while in landscape view. But after iOS7, in landscape view you can control a song by simply putting your finger to the bottom of the screen and swipe upwards twice (once to show the control center tab, and again to pull the tab up). You'll then see buttons to control the song you're listening to: a position scrubber, skip back, pause, skip forward, as well as some other features. This works while playing songs but it also works when you're listening to an audiobook as well. For audiobooks I didn't see a chapter skip button like there is in the portrait (vertical) view. In landscape view, I only saw the 15 sec skip-back and 15 sec skip-forward buttons.


By the way, people had been complaining and posting in forums about the landscape view not having music controls for over 6 years. After iOS7, there was finally a way. That's how slow Apple responded about that issue. Hopefully this chapter issue gets resolved quicker than that.

Dec 6, 2013 7:32 AM in response to dieterfi

I agree that Audiomark is more intuitive. I've had Bookmobile installed for ages and never knew before reading the above post that a double tap on the top of the screen would bring up the chapter list. Where is the icon showing that this is an option? There's not much point having this feature if there is nothing on the screen to indicate it is there. Audiomark however uses the same list symbol that the iOS6 Music app used and is therefore instantly recognisable and available for use.

Dec 10, 2013 2:45 PM in response to tasa

Thank you, this works great for MP3 format, but a lot of books in the libraries are only available in VMA format. I used to download to the overdrive app on my pc and then transfer to my iphone. Since the upgrade I have not been able to do this, I keep getting an error message that the file can not be synced. any help on that part?

Dec 28, 2013 3:02 AM in response to ecdc05

Audiobooks are one of many popular uses of mobile devices. Chapter menus make them usable on a mobile device. The new scrubbing is a joke par for the course for an alarming increase in user interface gaffs and loss of saavy by Apple. It's nothing short of stunning that after 4 point releases of iOS 7 over 3 months, the menu display of the m4b standard for chapters is still regressed. The Music App is a core part of a modern mobile OS and Apple is wrong to force users to the wolves and fend for themselves in the APP market. Johnny has lost his way.

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