I wanted a non-subsidized phone to use on AT&T so I ordered the iPhone 5s from T-mobile with no contract. Howveer unlike ordering the 5c it doesn't call it sim-free. It does state When you travel internationally, you can use a nano-SIM card for iPhone 5s from a local GSM carrier. Which makes me think it has to be unlocked and I could use my AT&T sim in it as it has all the supported bands. Has anyone tried this yet?
Yes, it is unlocked. I tried with an ATT nano-Sim card and it worked. I have not tried a foreign nano-SIM card though.
Then the Apple Store is guilty if misinformation or has succumbed to Carrier pressure to incorrectly state that each phone selection works exclusively with the selected carrier. This goes for e Verizon model as well. The TMobile version should indicate "Unlocked GSM" with TMobile sim
Actually if you read the entire description, you would know that the T-Mobile version is unlocked.
flyguy2929 wrote:
Then the Apple Store is guilty if misinformation
No. "Officially", Apple stores in the US are not selling "officially" unlocked iPhones, as Apple has not released that model yet for the US. It is expected to be released in October, and when released, will be properly labeled as such.
I stand corrected. They are guilty of not providing enough information. Yes, the menu tree to purchasing each phone leads to a locked, contracts device. In order to protect its fourth carrier. Apple deliberately left out the fact that the unlocked TMobile version will be compatible with both domestic GSM carriers and carriers from abroad.
Agree that there will be an "official" unlocked, non carrier labeled version, but because Apple never succumbs to carrier branding in the first place, I find it all the more confusing. In the end, they are trying to protect their carriers by steering initial iPhone allocation to those customers with domestic contracts or will be signing new contracts! regardless of whether the hardware is actually the same or not.
I got the 32Gb space grey t-mobile and it works fine with at&t sim. LTE is all there. Yeah I think t-mobile gave them pressure to not list the 5s as unlocked so to keep their supply of that model up for actual customers. The 5c is not listed as such.
Are all services such as ATT virtual voicemail in tact on your "TMobile unlocked iPhone"?
Been this way with every release. And, you can't blame Apple for initially protecting their carrier partners, after all, Apple doesn't own any networks & is totally dependent on the carriers to support the phone. If you ran T-Mobile, given the investment you just made, you wouldn't be too happy to see the phone labeled as unlocked, rather than T-Mobile.
Yeah Visual VM worked fine everything works fine. It is the model to get if you want no contract AT&T or t-mobile.
I've heard that the others with no contract is unlocked too. You can buy an iPhone 5S from AT&T with no contract and use T-mobile sim, for example.
Is it true?
If you get AT&T to unlock it. Unlike T-Mobile, all AT&T iPhones are carrier locked. However, AT&T has a policy of unlocking full priced iPhones. Whether they are doing so for the new models, I don't know. You'll have to call & ask.
Thanks, Type_11. Good to know.
Wjosten- understood, but Apple, as a mnaufacturer, has the responsibility to publish what their products are capocapable of doing. Yes, they don't need to call out the fact that the unlocked TMobile version works for ATT, but I feel that they were being dishonest by specifically stating that it will work with foreign carriers when they know full well that domestic GSM carriers are also compatible.
Like many things in life, it's all about money, & that will never change, whether you like it or not.
wjosten wrote:
If you get AT&T to unlock it. Unlike T-Mobile, all AT&T iPhones are carrier locked. However, AT&T has a policy of unlocking full priced iPhones. Whether they are doing so for the new models, I don't know. You'll have to call & ask.
Actually, I'm from Brazil and I'm asking a friend to buy one for me there, in USA. I'm worried about he buy one from other than T-mobile and it doesn't work with my sim card. It's almost sure that T-mobile will work here, but I don't know about the others. Beyound that, call and ask is a little hard to me.
call and ask is a little hard to me.
Well, I don't know what else to tell you. I don't work for AT&T & thus have no idea what their unlocking policies are for the new model iPhones. All I can tell you is that all AT&T iPhones are sold carrier locked.
T-Mobile Model A1533 (GSM) iPhone 5S is it unlocked? Will work with AT&T?
