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iPhone 5s 'This cable or accessory is not certified and may not work reliably...' help?

What is happening here?


I keep getting this stupid message even when no charger is plugged in!


I'm using the official charger that came with the iphone 5s box. I have other lightning connectors and thought maybe switching them would fix it but it hasn't.


Is there something wrong with my 5s? Do I need to clean the port on the bottom of the phone? I've only had the 5s for about a week. I am using official apple chargers.


This started happening after my batter drained and I put the phone on charge. Is it a software bug?


Any help would be appreciated.


P.s. The message ONLY appears when it is not on charge. Which is studpily weird.

iPhone 5s, iOS 7.0.2

Posted on Sep 28, 2013 9:25 AM

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Nov 21, 2015 10:10 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

But why would this message come up when the phone isn't even plugged in? This topic has been discussed since 2012! This message would be pretty valuable if I saw it *while* plugged into a bad charger, but it's simply weird to see it when nothing's going on. Thank you for the advice to keep the lightning connection scrupulously clean. Sounds logical, couldn't hurt! Just help me understand why Apple doesn't clarify this nonsense.

Nov 22, 2015 3:59 AM in response to gail from maine

Hi, Gail. You were nice to ask. Google brought me to this thread when I searched on the expression that you see on my "Re:" line, above. The very first post was on Sep 28, 2013 (not 2012 as I mistakenly commented above :\ ) The question was:

I keep getting this stupid message even when no charger is plugged in! I'm using the official charger that came with the iphone 5s box. I have other lightning connectors and thought maybe switching them would fix it but it hasn't. Is there something wrong with my 5s? Do I need to clean the port on the bottom of the phone? I've only had the 5s for about a week. I am using official apple chargers.


So, you see it did begin with someone who got the warning when their new 5S wasn't plugged into anything. (And who never had used an off-brand charger.)


The discussion in 2013 was tedious and inconclusive. Some posts were snarky remarks by people who hadn't carefully read the original post. Others were rebukes to the snarky ones! LOL After poring through screen after screen of nuthin' useful, I saw a post from Lawrence Finch that sounded logical.


For the heck of it, I clicked "Latest reply". And that brought me up to Lawrence's Aug 2015 post. I'm amazed that nothing gets definitively answered two years later. But Lawrence's advice was the same, and it remains the only actionable thing anyone has offered. So far, poking around with a toothpick has not dislodged any debris from my Lightning socket. I'll try again in the morning light.

Isn't Lawrence Finch a patient and helpful man? I'm glad he sticks with it.


Gail, I wish you a happy Thanksgiving!

Nov 22, 2015 9:20 AM in response to Gildallas

So, if you do not find any debris in the port on your device itself (or on the USB connector), and if you are indicating that this message just pops up out of nowhere when you are using your phone in a normal manner, then there is something not right with the device itself. However, if you get the message when you actually have the device connected to a computer using the USB cable, or when you set the device on a dock (like a Bose speaker dock), then that is a different matter.


I know that I occasionally get the warning when I plug my iPhone 4 into my Bose dock, and sometimes when I plug that phone into the iPad charger (that I've used successfully on my iPad 1 since I got it). But, I have never experienced the issue on my iPhone 5s. The 4, of course, is running iOS 7, which is around the timeframe where this new logic was introduced. The iPhone 5s, is on iOS 9.1 and I don't believe has ever run an iOS version lower than 8.


With my iPhone 4, re-seating always makes the issue go away.


I presume you have gone through all of the Restart, Reset, Restore steps with no luck? On the restore step, have you ever tried restoring it as a new device (not from your backup), and used it for a bit to see if the problem occurs? The reason you would want to try this is to eliminate the possibility that it is an app that is causing the issue or corrupted data on your device. If you encountered the problem on a totally "clean" device, then you know it is the device itself. If you didn't, then you would know that you had some corruption in your data, or a bad app.


If you were to determine the latter, then the best way to "re-build" the device manually, would be to re-download a few apps at a time to see if you could isolate any that might be the culprit.


It is a tedious process, but well worth it if you are having bizarre issues that defy logic.


Hope your Thanksgiving is most wonderful as well! 🙂


Best of luck,


GB

Nov 23, 2015 2:30 PM in response to gail from maine

Wow! Gail, you are the best!! You took so much time and trouble to advise me. I would not have known to do those steps. I am truly grateful and touched.


Sadly, I cannot take your advice before resolving a bigger problem that I created. I followed advice to try to clear any debris from the port, and used a toothpick to do it! (Someone's comment did mention toothpick.) Not smart! Not only did I dislodge *zero* debris, I somehow deformed the port's delicate configuration. After which the lightning plug wouldn't go into the port. And the phone is dead now.

As tragic as this was I had to laugh out loud. Would I ever ever advise somebody to take suggestions from strangers on the internet to use such a crude tool as a TOOTHPICK to fool around with a $700 instrument? No way! LOL!! Not doubt my ill-advised self-help action slipped through my common-sense filter because I was staying up wayyy too late. (I can get downright ignorant when I don't get enough sleep.)


So, I plan to take a good book to the Apple Store and wait there until they take my case. (When I sought a Genius Bar appointment online there was nothing within 25 miles before Wednesday afternoon.)


This is all so silly because I cannot work without that phone and certain apps that it runs.


Peculiar the way Apple does everything in its power to make i-appliances intrinsic to one's very existence.... and when I acquiesce they're pretty hard to get when I urgently need a fix-up.


But it certainly has been informative to correspond with you. And how reassuring that your advice didn't include potentially fatal tactics.!!


thanks,

Harriet G./ Dallas


PS I do count it a blessing to have several Apple stores within a 30-mile radius. Not sure that would be the case in Maine...?


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Nov 23, 2015 7:08 PM in response to Gildallas

Yeah, my Apple Store is an hour and 15 minutes away..... 😐


The toothpick recommendation always made me a little nervous when I saw it. I favor a soft, clean toothbrush. But since you had no debris, then sounds like "nothing" would have worked best for you. Sorry, your little pins got all cattywhompus (technical jargon for cattywhompus).


Hope your trip to the Apple Store is successful 🙂


Best of luck,


GB

Nov 24, 2015 3:45 AM in response to gail from maine

I should go back and delete my earlier messages on this topic! The Genius found a great deal of gunk in my iP6 port, and corrosion as well. I couldn't see it, probably bc I didn't know what it w supposed to look like. I can't understand how it got that dirty; it's only 6 months old and it stays in a Lifeproof case. The kind Genius went to the back room with a dead dirty phone and made it like new by cleaning out the port. My toothpick didn't hurt anything, though it also didn't cure the problem. I'm grateful for the help here in the support community, and in the store

Dec 10, 2015 2:10 AM in response to Tom TJ

Hello friends,


I hate to admit that I actually wasted quite a bit of time reading this WHOLE thread too. My bad. It's probably why I don't spend many hours reading blogs and the like... because I'd have a problem stopping at reading just a "few" posts. 🙂 You know, some of those comments in 2012 and 2013 were pretty unproductive and honestly quite rude... but after taking time to read it all - I figured I'd at least pass on something I learned to Apple? LOL Maybe someone at Apple will read this, some day, and mention my perspective at one of their many strategy sessions (I know, wishful thinking). 🙂 So feel free to skip my post if you're trolling to start an argument... I'm not the type to take the bait. I'm just choosing to post my musings IN CASE Apple ever checks these, for grins. So if this will bore you - and it probably will - skip me and read the next one. If you're with Apple - please read! Thanks! 🙂



I'll hold off sharing my extended thoughts with regard to the "cord debacle"... many in this thread expressed my concerns already... but basically it's a bummer that you can't buy 4-5 chargers for a 5s and assume they will just "work" (and continue working through software upgrades too). Yeah, 4-5 cords minimum (and that's not including the rest of my family who need their own "set" too.) Let's face it, in "my" world, I can't have just one cord at home to do the job - it's become one at the office, one in the car, at home, at my home office, in my purse, etc... I gotta say, the effort I've had to take to research the cord issue, ("this accessory doesn't work error...") to make sure I buy the correct watt, app, voltage etc... was quite a bit more stressful than when I had to research how to fix the issues from upgrades that were running down the battery on my phone. But I bought in to this Apple addiction, so I trudge on.



It's not a perfect science - I get it - and I'm thankful for my iPhone - really I am... I still can't believe I attended college without one! LOL But lordy, when all your chargers are unexpectedly wiped out in one day due to a software update, and you have accumulated 4-5 per person in your family for convenience, that's a pretty costly replacement - $20 bucks x 4, per person in a family? That's a pricey change that we had already gone through when changing from our iPhone 4's to 5's... but the difference was we expected THAT additional expense. My opinion? AT&T did a poor job of publicizing this "microchip in the lightening charger and the upcoming challenges (that will drive you nuts)" 🙂 and also poorly publicized their anticipation of how poor knockoffs would impact their customers while those customers RAN to restock their homes/cars/offices with cords before their phones lost their charges. In this day of "spin", I guarantee Apple could've used some marketing technique to ease my pain with clear communications to the public about this important change - so I might have "bought in" to the cord issue, before I had to ACTUALLY "buy in" (sorry for the pun, couldn't help it).



I won't get into a debate over: "is it fair for Apple to try to hold on to the market or not when it's their tech" or "capitalism rocks, so there" or "they make em in China, so why are they so expensive" or "let's discuss the environmental impact of all of those expired iPhone cables" - because that's all really useless. We dealt with it - made the purchase when all our cables went dead. Hoorah. However, now our family is entering the next phase: "replacing broken cables" because that's a reality too. (NOTE: When you finally DO track down an "Apple approved manufacturer" you gotta make sure you take care of em... UNLESS you have a bunch of teenage boys, and you live a hectic lifestyle, where cords are moved around a lot and pinched in a purse, in the car - in various car chargers (oh and we didn't know some of THOSE wouldn't work either till THAT was too late too... so off to buy new approved car charge adapters). Wear and tear I guess just breaks 'em down, like Lawrence mentioned above.



And then there are the "gremlins" that you just don't know why they didn't work. Apple genius bar guys can give you a different answer EVERY time you go in there - for the SAME cord to the same genius bar but to different guys, all their answers are different... because often times they don't know why a certified cable isn't working either. So you just expect the cables to fail - (my sons and I call it the "gremlin" attack when we know it's a certified cable but it just stopped working. I mutter something that's probably in poor taste under my breath and I say, "ok honey, let's go get a new one" because afterall, I signed us all up to deal with this Apple iPhone issue and we are in the contract - and gotta use the phone...) Anyway, so you just have to plan on replacing most of them on a regular basis (annually for us) or you are left with a dead phone. 🙂


That's a lot of money, folks. And, honestly? We have quite a few Apple products in our home - and office - and my husbands vet office - and my children's school is completely Apple based... you name it, we all have it. But I would have MUCH more enjoyed purchasing a new iPad for my hubby, or a nice BIG screen monitor from Apple for my MacBook Pro, than spending hundreds and hundreds and hundreds on these cords over these past few years - and the stress, lordy, the frustration. Not sure what I mean? Then feel free to read this WHOLE thread. (giggle) If you're from Apple, you already know about the challenges... I just encourage you guys to take a NEW look at an old issue... and how you are presenting it to us. Sure look at how to fix the problem - you guys are good at that - you usually fix it VERY well when there's a problem... and I'm thankful. But do you think of how you present these challenges - AND your solutions - to us?



SO - I do GET all the many, MANY comments of frustrated customers in this thread, because there are clearly multiple issues, and it can be overwhelming. As a mom, wife, business owner (and over-committer to my community 🙂) it honestly is hard to stop my mom taxi or business appointments to fit in errands and phone calls to AT&T, Apple, Radio Shack or Best Buy for returns when your phone, cables, connectors, software, charging ports are "glitchy" lately, or a "bad batch", and "just bring it in, and we'll trade it out". And online stores aren't even useful to try to return to - I just eat the cost (and when I purchase online - which I haven't done in a few years) I just expected that those cords weren't going to be here for the long haul... just a nice cheap solution for a little bit. And that's what they were - maybe for a week or two or two months? I had to try afterall...right? I mean, I did mention that I was buying the actual cords from the apple or at&t stores and they weren't lasting either, right? But it's improved a bit overtime and with your MFI program... so usually you can buy the $20 cable at these stores and get pretty lucky (not perfect) but longer than a month of use is nice.



Apple saved me lots of time over the years with the iPhone. In my home, my work, my children's schedule... Again, I'm VERY thankful. You revolutionized the way most of us organize our days... and communicate and experience the lives we have - and that's pretty cool. So no, I'm not bailing to Samsung like some out there. I know it's a work in progress - that's how technology is. But I'm just hoping that whoever in Apple that may (someday) read this - will hear that there's a big group of us out here that are just disappointed.



We hope you will take the time to put yourself in our shoes and make the process of using your product a little easier. I don't know what that looks like - maybe hold off on releasing an upgrade till you've thought it through and how you might present any "glitches" to your consumers? Whatever you do - just communicate BEFORE hand if possible. Find a way to COMMUNICATE with us. It shouldn't be hard, right? If I knew I might have a hiccup coming my way or a new round of purchases, I can plan for it and "buy in" to your reasoning, if you have sound reasons.



To any who chose to read my musings, here's a few links to helpful hints on spotting counterfeits and the issue of amps/voltage/ watts etc... so when you're purchasing your next "round of cables" you can be confident what you are buying should work - because just because a company says they are an "apple approved manufacturer" it doesn't always mean that they are... heck even reputable companies (ie Radio Shack, Best Buy, and yes, even AT&T... get duped and have sold me and other knock offs that didn't work. No, I didn't yell at the messenger...(the lady who sold it to me at Best Buy), or her manager and not even her upper manager... because often they didn't know THEY were being duped till their "glitchy" cables were being returned with complaints and it was determined they were counterfeits) again, not a perfect science... I get it.


So, there's my plea to Apple. COMMUNICATION is key. HONESTY is key. You wanna make all the money - OK - then share your challenges and tell us why we should purchase from you and "throw in the American dream speech" and I'm in. You guys probably developed whole branches of Apple just to maintain the MFI program - that brings on more jobs - that's cool. But just take time to respect the fact that we need to trust the company we purchase stuff from... and if you screw up - then say it, and tell us your plan, and we'll follow and back you up if we know we are part of the "team" too. 🙂



To the rest of you who for some reason chose to read my musings (giggle) here's my links: Identify counterfeit or uncertified Lightning connector accessories - Apple Support and also, here's info about MFI: https://developer.apple.com/programs/mfi/ and also, http://www.engineering.com/AdvancedManufacturing/ArticleID/10855/Lightning-Cable s-for-Apple-Products-Why-Quality-Matters… and also, this was interesting... (I gotta say my Mac is a gem and so I'm not bothered by the cost control issue...) but the article is interesting: http://www.macworld.com/article/2024257/how-apple-sets-its-prices.html and also, http://www.cnet.com/news/why-im-done-buying-cheap-lightning-cables/ and also, http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/136947-apples-mega-complicated-lightning- connector-analyzed and also, http://gizmodo.com/5945889/some-third-party-adapters-might-not-work-with-your-ne w-iphone?trending_test_three_a&utm_expid… and also, Everything you wanted to know about charging your iPhone or iPad and also, http://www.righto.com/2012/05/apple-iphone-charger-teardown-quality.html also, a few links to some MFI Cert stores - maybe this will help someone find a few use able cables? I think I'll try a few of these sites out soon (wish me luck!) 🙂 Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas!

Dec 10, 2015 6:55 PM in response to SamsMochi

I'm using iPhone 5 and also experiencing the same problem. My iPhone keep showing "This cable or accessory is not certified and may not work reliably with this iPhone" although there is no cable plugged in. It happens to my iPhone many times in a day! Reading these posts, I just found out that there is no useful solution from Apple itself "Just live with it"


Previously, I use iPhone 4s and I use both original cables and non-original cables but there is no "this cable or accessory is not certified and may not work reliably with this iPhone" showed up.


Please Apple, release an update to solve this issue!

Thanks!

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