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How to run Boot Camp on External Hard Drive?

I use my mid-2012 11" MacBook Air for gaming and school work. My hard drive is filling up fast, and I was hoping I could use an external hard drive and Boot Camp to run Windows for my games, thus freeing up most of my hard drive.


My questions are:

1) Is this possible?

2) What equipment would I need to do it?

3) What would I be looking for in an external hard drive for this purpose?

4) If I did this, would I be able to unplug and replug my external hard drive without causing a problem?

5) What version of Windows should I use?

The program I will be using for my games is Steam.

MacBook Air, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 9, 2013 4:22 PM

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Jan 19, 2016 5:25 AM in response to heisian

I actually bought it and I am quite happy with it. I messaged the guy before buying and he said it's an official iso file from Microsoft website which is available for free and it's not activated, so everyone can choose how to activate. Why do you think it's illegal 😕 ? It's for personal use in my case and the price seems to me reasonable because I couldn't manage with the installation myself

Jan 25, 2016 1:49 PM in response to uk_baby_pc_developer

or maybe you're the guy selling them. either way, just because it's an "official" .iso from Microsoft doesn't make it legal, even if you do activate it. Windows licensing doesn't work like that. Microsoft didn't authorize you or the seller to distribute the software that way.


As Loner T mentioned above, if you want to install ANY Windows 8/10 on a USB drive, you NEED to have WIndows-to-Go which ONLY comes with Windows ENTERPRISE. You cannot just "activate" it.

Jan 25, 2016 2:37 PM in response to uk_baby_pc_developer

uk_baby_pc_developer wrote:


I messaged the guy before buying and he said it's an official iso file from Microsoft website which is available for free and it's not activated, so everyone can choose how to activate. Why do you think it's illegal 😕 ? It's for personal use in my case and the price seems to me reasonable because I couldn't manage with the installation myself

Microsoft considers such endeavors as a VAR (Value-Added Reseller). Amazon is also a VAR, because they re-sell M$ products. Think of a DVD Installer with instructions. Most Windows retail licenses are for personal use. The ISO files are freely available from M$ web site in the public domain.


The area where it becomes questionable is, which ISO was used, to create the installer and whether the installer that you bought bypasses Windows EULA.


Specifically, in your case, ASC participants can help you create the installer media from an ISO for which you have a key. ASC does not charge you any money. It is a well-documented process using BC Assistant and supported by Apple and Microsoft. If the external media only contains an installer, which will ask you for a product key that you own, it is better than one which does not. If it contains an installed version of Windows on a removable device, that is where the second issue comes in.


If you feel so inclined, you can ask Microsoft (without any details of the seller) using a hypothetical scenario, and verify if they have any issues with it or not.


At some point, the participants in these fora, have no liability, if you lose data, etc.. Meanwhile, a commercial (re)seller may be required to provide support or redirect such requests.

Jan 25, 2016 4:10 PM in response to uk_baby_pc_developer

The M$ person did not understand your question. M$ allows the creation of a USB installer or downloading of an ISO, or both for W10. The W7/W8+ statement is related to a possible W10 upgrade.


If you paid money for a USB/ISO Installer, which is otherwise a free self-service, for your personal convenience, then that is not an issue. You could have better made use of the same money.

Jan 25, 2016 4:57 PM in response to uk_baby_pc_developer

Here's an official answer to the question from Microsoft:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_install/h ow-do-i-install-windows-10-to-a-usb-flash-drive/e16b0be1-8b92-4d32-864e-a67f1def a84d?auth=1


That's pretty much it. Of course you can do it, but it is not legal unless you have Windows Enterprise/Windows To Go. That's all there is to it.

Jan 25, 2016 6:21 PM in response to uk_baby_pc_developer

uk_baby_pc_developer wrote:


no, no we started the chat clarifying that I am not talking about a bootable usb for installation. I am sure that the person understood me right. I pointed out that I want to install win 10 on the USB stick and to use the OS from it- like Win-to-go but using uncertified USB.

Anyway,I expected more but that what I got from the chat

You have now provided two parts of information, which are conflicting. Win10 Installer on the USB vs. running W10 from a USB. The former is allowed, the latter requires Windows Enterprise.

Feb 1, 2016 5:24 AM in response to Pierre80

@Pierre80

I have followed your instruction step by step, everything worked fine, I got the right feedbacks from the CMD, but when I wanted to boot into the windows (after step 20) it just showed me a black screen telling me "No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key".

I've tried it several times, with other isos aswell, but it kept showing the same black screen. What am I doing wrong?


I'm working on an Macbook Pro Retina End 2013 with OSX 10.11.3, Bootcamp 6.0.1, Windows 8.1 isos (the one you proposed and he usual 8.1 one, both directly downloaded from microsoft.com), a running windows 7 system and an intel SSD (320 series, 120gb) in a USB 3.0 case.

Feb 28, 2016 1:26 PM in response to Storm Mage

It is working for me. I try to summarize my process based in the original post from Link to this post @Pierre80:


It's absolutely possible to run BootCamp from an External Drive (ie : windows installed on an USB drive)

The windows installation program refuses to install itself to an external USB Drive.


That's not a problem, there's a way to install windows installation files on an external USB drive, and once booted from it, Windows will finish to install itself from said drive.


I tested it with Windows 10 but afaik it only works with an Enterprise Version! and it work perfectly from external USB drive!!

here's how to do so :

You will need :

- your windows 10 Enterprise ISO file (choose x64 because Apple Bootcamp tools are meant for x64)

- a running PC (on windows 7 or 8) real or virtualized with admin rights

- a blank external drive (at least 16GB)

/!\ WHOLE DISK WILL BE ERASED, I cannot be responsible for data loss /!\

this software :

- Apple Bootcamp drivers (obtained from the BootCamp setup): On my MBP the realtek audio drivers did not work see Link to this post

- "Windows Automated Installation Kit"In fact all you need from WAIK is the file "imagex.exe" see below.

- Power Iso (create a virtual drive, unless you're using a Virtualised Window) : http://www.poweriso.com/

If you don't have Windows ISO, you can download a demo there : http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-8-1-enterprise

or try windows 10 : http://preview.windows.com/

On your existing PC Setup, do the following steps (each command will be in uppercase to increase readability, type them in lowercase, if there's a space between words, insert a space obviously) :

1 - install Windows AIK, once done navigate to this folder : C:\program files\Windows AIK\Tools\Amd64\

2 - in this folder, move the file imagex.exe to the root folder of your C:\ drive

3 - launch the CMD line tool (clic on the Start menu, in the search bar type CMD, then launch it from the menu)

4 - at the prompt, type DISKPART and hit Return Key

the command line will be like this DISKPART >

5 - type LIST DISK and hit Return Key

It will list each available drive on your PC with a Disk number (DISK 0 ; DISK 1; DISK # ; etc...)

6 - Choose the disk you want your windows 8.1 installed onto and type accordingly SELECT DISK # and hit Return Key

(# being the number of the disk you want to use (ie SELECT DISK 2) and hit Return Key (according to our example the prompt will state that disk 2 is now the selected disk). Just to be sure of what you did, you can type LIST DISK again, and you will see a * in front of the disk you will erase and prepare for the installation of windows. If you want to be absolutely sure that you selected the right disk, you can unplug the disk and type LIST DISK again and repeat the above steps.

7 - Type CLEAN and hit Return Key

DiskPart succeeded in cleaning the disk


8 - Type CREATE PARTITION primary and hit Return Key

DiskPart succeeded in creating the specified partition

10 - Type ACTIVE and hit Return Key

DiskPart marked the current partition as active

11 - Type FORMAT FS=NTFS QUICK and hit Return Key

DiskPart successfully formatted the volume

12 - Type ASSIGN and hit Return Key

DiskPart successfully assigned the drive letter or mount point


13 -Type EXIT and hit Return Key or close the window


Following 14 to 16 steps will allow you to have the window 8 ISO mounted as a drive. If you are doing this with Parallels Desktop or VMWare fusion, just mount the .iso file as a drive in the CD/DVD Drive section of the software and go to step 17

14 - Install PowerISO

15 - Clic on the "Mount button", and select "Set Number of Drives Menu", choose "1 Drive"

16 - Then clic on the "Mount button" again, then "Mount Image". Select your windows 8.1 ISO file and clic "Open"


Following steps are for everyone

Please note your drives letters before proceeding :

What is your Windows CD drive Letter ? My Windows Drive letter is E:

What is your external Hard drive letter ? My USB Drive letter is G:

So remember to change the letters for your system accordingly.

17 - Verify that your Window installation drive is properly mounted : clic on the Start menu then Computer, then check the drives (in my case, my Virtual CD Drive is the letter E:)


18 - Open CMD tool again, but this time as an Administrator : clic on the Start menu, then in the search bar type CMD, then right-clic on it in the menu and select Run as Administrator


19 - Type C:\IMAGEX.EXE /APPLY E:\sources\install.wim 1 G:\and hit Return Key(remember to change the letters to fit your setup)

there's several spaces in the above command ligne.

You'll see the ImageX Tool for Windows running, with a percentage [ X% ] Applying progress. It'll take 8 to 12 minutes to complete.

Non Enterprise versions of Windows dont have the file install.wim but boot.wim instead. For me that did not work


20 - Now we'll make the USB Drive Bootable. Type BCDBOOT G:\WINDOWS /S G:

Boot files successfully created


You're Done !!


Now, plug the USB Drive to your Mac. Start it and hold the ALT Key, and choose the Windows USB Drive that you used all along.

Windows will boot, and then will reboot the computer. at the boot chime hold ALT key and again choose the Windows drive to boot from.

Once on the Windows desktop appears, plug your Apple Windows Drivers USB keydrive and install the Bootcamp drivers.

After a while, the installation will be done, you just have to reboot Windows, hold ALT again at startup to choose the Windows drive, and voilà !


You just completed the installation of Windows on an external drive, and you can boot it whenever you want. The best part of this is that you can use your Windows USB Drive only when you want to use Windows, and free all that space from your internal Hard drive.

You're Welcome

Feb 28, 2016 2:29 PM in response to hivader

hivader wrote:

I tested it with Windows10 but afaik it only works with an EnterpriseVersion!

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831833.aspx


From Boot Camp 5.1: Frequently asked questions - Apple Support,


Which versions of Windows work with Boot Camp 5.1?

Boot Camp 5.1 supports 64-bit, non-Enterprise versions of Windows 7, Windows 8.0, and Windows 8.1. This version of Boot Camp doesn't support Windows XP, Windows Vista, or any 32-bit version of Windows. Depending on your Mac, you may be able to use an earlier version of Boot Camp to work with other versions of Windows. For details, see the Boot Camp system requirements for Microsoft Windows.


If you have an Enterprise license, and Windows will install with such a license, the USB installation is supported (as is a TB, FW connection).

Mar 12, 2016 7:19 AM in response to Loner T

Yes, the Enterprise version is the simplest solution. I have a new Mac Pro 6 core. Very little space on the internal and I wanted to instal Steam and GTA V. No way was there room! So ... I downloaded a demo version of 8.1 E and installed this in Parallels. From Parallels I created an external Windows boot on a USB3 dock and an SSD. This is done in minutes using the tool Windows to Go. The resulting SSD fires up in seconds and runs GTA V perfectly on a 2560 x 1440 res screen at 90 f.p.s.. After a few hours I see a message on the second screen I have stating I need to activate Windows. I simply shut down and reboot and get another few hours. I also duplicated this with Windows 10 E but it is a pain in the butt compared to 8.1 for such a simple task as running Steam. I have had this set up for nearly a year now and it still runs perfectly and all updates and security patches are installed without any issues.


BTW I also made an AMD driver installation that runs Crossfire for dual GPUs that works better than the Boot Camp drivers. The info on how was on Mac Rumors site. In fact I have not installed any Bootcamp Drivers. In tests I did they messed up the Windows installation.

How to run Boot Camp on External Hard Drive?

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