How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

GREATLY APPRECIATED GUYS ... 🙂

KiltedTim wrote:

tekknosaurus wrote:

I installed Mavericks without a warning that the calendar and contact sync with my iphones is not working further, unbelievable!

You installed a new operating system without bothering to find out if there would be compatibility or other issues that would affect you before hand, unbelievable!

2 Questions:

Why apple don´t warn before cutting an elemantary function before the update?

The feature was depracated 2 versions ago! It's not Apple's fault you didn't bother to check this before you updated.

It is not unbelievable to expect the same or better functionality from a new version of our operating system. For the past 29 years it has been that way. The unbelievable bit is the leap backwards that has materialized now.

You might mean that the feature was deprecated, and that was done in communication with the developers (see your own earlier post in this thread), but not with end users. How were we to know this? Are we expected to have the same indepth focus on every little technical tidbit that is published on every little corner of the web about the platform we use because it doesn't require the user to be a wizzkid? If I was a crisps munching obese geek, I would be using Windows. I'm not, hence Apple.

Please accept that some people are genuinly surprised by this move as it is a step back from the users point of view. To everyone who doesn't care about privacy, the environment or ease of use and peace of mind it might be a bright future, but for others it is not. Is that so hard to believe?

Please take HandsOFFmydata's advice: "To the Tilted Kims participating in this discussion … lead, follow, or get out of the way."

I am reminded of the class line from the movie Animal House: "You $ucked up. You trusted us." :-)

I still have not be able to get syncing working using Microsoft Exchange but am still trying. In any event, at least I learned a new vocubulary word out of this entire experience: "depracated". It is very useful word. My health insurance was 'depracated" last month.

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Csound1 wrote:

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What does this mean?

Are you just here to bait people or provide help?

Those level 7 dots indicate the latter but this post is meaningless suggesting the former is true, you clearly know better.

Sometimes responses do not appear until a new posting is made, you don't know that because you are an infrequent visitor. The (.) posting is to force a refresh, untwist your knickers.

Thanks DiederikStaay - you hit the bull´s eye!

And @KiltedTim: thanks too for you interesting and arrogant answer.

I am long enough working with mac - but I can´t remember that such a basic function was disabled in a more small update. Of course it´s my mistake just click the button and update - this time I just read some articles about and said ok - just a small and more bugfixing update, do it.

After a couple of days I found out "oops, the sync doesn´t work". OK, and then - just at this point, I found out in some forums why. NOT on the Apple site teasering Maverick.

Again: what a shame for Apple.

Now I read more and think maybe it´s the smallest work to set up the os x server to sync. What should I do? Install Exchange for inhouse sync?

Unbelievable for me. If Apple worked out a wifi-sync instead, would be a cool option. But maybe I just have to buy a Samsung mobile, perhaps they can sync with USB.

Thanks, for clarifying. This isn't made clear anywhere.

Taken in the context of the increasing emotion in this thread it doesn't look polite, and seems antagonistic to me, turns out it's someone being helpful.

I'm afraid that simply informing the developer community is not sufficient. It reminds me of the Vogons from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Such actions are the subject of parody and ridicule for a reason. Nor is taking the position of caveat emptor, which I would expect in third party used car sales. Poorly orchestrated notifications not withstanding, it is unconscionable to intentionally sabotage existing platforms that are still in wide use.

Drew Reece wrote:

Taken in the context of the increasing emotion in this thread it doesn't look polite, and seems antagonistic to me, turns out it's someone being helpful.

This is why I find it useful to assume, until proven otherwise, that, at worst, people's intent in a post is neutral. If necessary, I ask clarifying questions in my best neutral tone. Assuming people are attempting to be impolite or antagonistic in a forum with users for all over the world just leads to unnecessary agitation. 🙂

Ah, its not the end of the game. Saw just now on a os x server of a mate - if updating to Maverick with a mirrored raid you can´work with that encrypted further? The encryption with filevault is not supported for raid with maverick. Is that real?

Nice to know. Why all this data sensitive things happend? Is it a plan? (I can´t really believe this.)

It is not bashing Apple - I love to work with Mac and do not want to change to M$ or Linux. But I want to understand this nonsense.

Is anybody here knowing if the ML Server works with Maverick for syncing contacts and calendar?

Cheers for informations...

PandAteacher wrote:

I'm afraid that simply informing the developer community is not sufficient. It reminds me of the Vogons from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Such actions are the subject of parody and ridicule for a reason. Nor is taking the position of caveat emptor, which I would expect in third party used car sales. Poorly orchestrated notifications not withstanding, it is unconscionable to intentionally sabotage existing platforms that are still in wide use.

And this is the problem we run into when non-technical people have computers. They are not appliances. If you have specific needs then you need to research things before you jump off the cliff. OS updates contain hundreds, if not thousands of changes. There is a reason that corporations do not jump on every OS and application update the moment it becomes available. Unfortunately, joe 6 pack usually doesn't take these things into consideration until it's too late.

The solution to the question that was originally posed has already been provided. Downgrade or otherwise don't use Mavericks at all, or install Mavericks server and set up your own CalDAV and CardDAV server.

Continuing to whine about it accomplishes absolutely nothing other than to make it clear you'd rather whine about it than address the issue.

For 25 years Apple used to pride itself of providing user friendly solutions, no command prompt, not elaborate configurations, no technical knowledge required ... it just worked!

The shift from user friendly to "my-way-or-highway" started some time ago with the release of Mac OSX Lion: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/90832-os-x-lion-macs-are-no-longer-beginner -friendly

This brings us to the today's situation and problem at hand that took Mac users by surprise ... there was no advance warning to end users:

- not about "deprecation" of the local link service,

- not about the decision made to actually remove it,

- and no mention of the service being removed in OSX 10.9 release notes.

Meantime the options suggested are:

- do not use OSX 10.9 … not an option for newest hardware users,

- do not upgrade to OSX 10.9 or downgrade if applicable … a dead end long term,

- use OSX Server, or similar alternative … excessive and hindrance for a single user,

- use OSX 10.9 and iCloud … does not answer the question this discussion is all about:

How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

Let's then address the issue head on and try to find a solution … by moving forward, offering progressive and innovative approach, and thinking outside the box … rather than accepting the status quo. Got any practical solution to the How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option. problem? Share that with us ...

handsOFFmydata wrote:

Got any practical solution to the How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option. problem? Share that with us ...

There (currently) is no supported method of synchronizing an iPhone (Contacts/Calendars) via iTunes in OS X Mavericks.

iCloud is the supported method.

Full Ack, good abstract of the possibilities handsoff!

I worked it out the last hour for me and put an server (Mountain Lion Server works!) on some other mac. That works for me, I will see how comfortably it is all day.

But it does not change the fact that killing the offline sync feature without illustrating it in the visible way for all user is a crude behavior - against a lot of mac user that don´t want to share all personal and professional data through the whole world.

And yes, there are many unprofessional and unsensible thinking user working with sensible data.

Everybody should go the way he like.

But - more then 50 % of the mac user I know don´t have the chance to install the server just in minutes and the resources for syncing a mac and an iphone is absurd.

But - they have no choice.

And excactly that is misbehavior. Just my 2 cents.