How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I know ... but trying to get around this as I am in the same situation as some people that had mentioned in this discussion, and this guy … from another discussion: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5469874?answerId=23704524022#23704524022&ac_cid=tw123456#23704524

This is terrible. I'm constantly in remote areas, without Internet connection. I'm using the Calendar for very complex scheduling and have 5 devices all synced with one an other. Verry frustrating. Thinking about not getting any more Apple products. PLEASE, Apple, put that Info Tab back!!!! PLEASE, PLEASSE, PLEASE

I reside in the USA but often operate in Canada … the infrastructure there does not extend much beyond urban areas. This means once you are in rural area and not on major highway, you do not have data service. In addition, the cost of bandwidth there is mind boggling. I have not visited Canadian Apple site but they must be furious over there.

Bottom line ... I am hoping that somebody finds some way to either replenish missing local sync service in OSX 10.9 with some smart method, or some developer comes up with a new or updated tool that does true sync of contacts/calendars/etc data between Mac and idvices using local connection, either WiFi or USB.

Fingers crossed … I think it's a matter of time.

Csound1 wrote:

handsOFFmydata wrote:

Got any practical solution to the How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option. problem? Share that with us ...

There (currently) is no supported method of synchronizing an iPhone (Contacts/Calendars) via iTunes in OS X Mavericks.

iCloud is the supported method.

Isn't that just 'handsOFFmydata's point. We need some clever developers to use their considerable talents to introduce an application to Mavericks that restores the choice to sync our Apple products either locally or via iCloud. We also need Apple to allow them the tools to do this with.

BTW I think SyncMate are no longer attempting to provide this option, for whatever reason.

Arnorf wrote:

Isn't that just 'handsOFFmydata's point. We need some clever developers to use their considerable talents to introduce an application to Mavericks that restores the choice to sync our Apple products either locally or via iCloud. We also need Apple to allow them the tools to do this with.

BTW I think SyncMate are no longer attempting to provide this option, for whatever reason.

So you would like to run Apple's employment policy? Do you really think they would associate themselves with third part developers such as these? You can inform them of your idea directly if you wish. Good luck with all that! 😁

Pete

I have a partial solution that, I am afraid, will not work for most, but it could show the way. I am fortunate to have BENTO running on all my equipment. I have moved my notes and address book to the database, so now I can sync everything locally and there are no fears of future sabotage (aka deprecation). Unfortunately, FileMaker discontinued that product just a few months ago, so you can not longer purchase it. The calendar is still a problem however, since I have more than one non-cloud device. Interestingly, I am doing some development for local surgery centers, and cloud storage of any kind is not allowed by law. My options for the mobile implementations have now been greatly constrained.

handsOFFmydata wrote:

For 25 years Apple used to pride itself of providing user friendly solutions, no command prompt, not elaborate configurations, no technical knowledge required ... it just worked!

The shift from user friendly to "my-way-or-highway" started some time ago with the release of Mac OSX Lion

I'm not sure which Apple ecosystem you were involved with, but the one I have been with since the original 128k Mac has always been Apple's way or the highway. They tried clones for a while, but that was the only modicum of "choice" offered by Apple.

"You don't need no stinkin'..."

"Color display"

"3.5" floppy"

"User-upgradeable components"

"Replaceable battery"

"Colored sidebar icons"

"Optical drive" ... Ok, that one is only half-way complete.

"PowerPC...hey, that was a good ride, dude..."

soon to be "Mouse...Hey, we brought you into the world, we can take you out!"

Apple makes various bits of hardware that all works great together. They continually improve that integration in order to make money.

My guess is 84.7% of the population of the known universe thinks NSA stands for "No Strings Attached."

handsOFFmydata wrote:

For 25 years Apple used to pride itself of providing user friendly solutions, no command prompt, not elaborate configurations, no technical knowledge required ... it just worked!

It's still user friendly. User friendly does not mean idiot proof.

The shift from user friendly to "my-way-or-highway" started some time ago with the release of Mac OSX Lion: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/90832-os-x-lion-macs-are-no-longer-beginner -friendly

Which is completely irrelevant and outside the scope of this forum. Discussing Apple policy or policy decisions is forbidden by the TOS.

Meantime the options suggested are:

- do not use OSX 10.9 … not an option for newest hardware users

Then don't buy a Mac. Buy something else.

- do not upgrade to OSX 10.9 or downgrade if applicable … a dead end long term

Then get over your paranoia and pick a cloud service or get off of the Mac bus. Buy something else.

- use OSX Server, or similar alternative … excessive and hindrance for a single user

Again. Get over your paranoia and pick a cloud service or buy something else.

- use OSX 10.9 and iCloud … does not answer the question this discussion is all about:

How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

The question has been answered multiple times. YOU CAN'T. What part of that is unclear to you? Do you have a reading comprehension problem, or are you finally willing to admit that you're just a troll? Those are the ONLY two possibilities.

Let's then address the issue head on and try to find a solution

There is nothing to address. The answer has been provided. The answer is NO.

by moving forward, offering progressive and innovative approach, and thinking outside the box … rather than accepting the status quo. Got any practical solution to the How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option. problem? Share that with us

This is NOT the place to have that discussion. YOU CAN NOT LOCALLY SYNC CONTACTS AND CALENDARS WITH MAVERICKS. You just don't get it. Maybe a third party will come up with something. That is outside the scope of this forum.

Just stop already. You're making a fool of yourself by continuing to beat this dead horse.

Interesting range of responses in this thread:

- The Hopefulls who are crossing their fingers that Apple will listen and change things.

- The Sarcastics who reply to every Hopefull post with degrading responses that don't help anyone.

- The Technicals who undersand why Apple did what they did, and sometimes have solutions, but the solutions are beyond what the typical person wants to do.

It's apparent to me (no need for sly responses) that Apple made a decision, may or may not understand the impacts to this 1% of their customer base that this is a problem for, and will likely not change their business strategy based on a few negative comments (or even bad reviews on the web).

I was hanging onto this thread for a few days hoping (group 1 above) that a solution might be found that I could stomach, but this post bashing is getting too much and not benefitial to anyone.

Guess I'll go the way of the Cloud... 🙂.

the answer is no

The cloud is still not for me. I still sync my iPhone in iTunes (latest version) with a USB cable. Still working fine using my personal MacBook Pro. May venture to the cloud one day but no need yet.

Cheers

Pete

What part of the problem you do not understand?

Got any practical solution to the How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option. problem? Share that with us ...

The solution might not be readily available yet, but willing working together might find one with or without Apple cooperation. You want to lock yourself in iCloud … fine … works for you … fine … but let others search for the resolution to their problem in their circumstances where iCloud does not work.

Re your troll comment ...

You are the one constantly attacking people and calling them names.

Len Anzelde wrote:

Guess I'll go the way of the Cloud... 🙂.

You don't need to. Apple supports iTunes USB local sync in Windows. If you are a Mac user, your options are limited. If you are a Windows user, Apple supports you fully.

KiltedTim: OK, I undestand your point. This change doesn't trouble you, so everything is alright (for you). You are OK but some people aren't. They have problems with this change, operational or legal. I understand this is not your case. But they are trying to get Apple's attention, and this is their right. So, it seems you don't care other people's problems. Try to undestand your neighbour. The world is not only you. You wrote: "Just stop already". Please, do it.

One option discussed before was setting an OSX Server and own cloud … here is a lighter option. Some technicals skills are still required.

This would involve using own web server on a networked computer, or on a personal computer, and installing ownCloud (mentioned before) to synchronize contacts/calendars and more. The footprint and overhead is much smaller than using OSX Server.

The requirements are as follows:

1. You need to have your local WLAN, or access to one to synchronize your idvices with your Mac. It can be your home network, some public network (security?), or your personal hotspot like MiFi (no cell/data connection required). You do not need Internet connection to sync, just the means to interconnect your Mac/server and your idevices.

2. Install MAMP on your networked or personal computer: http://www.mamp.info/en/mamp/index.html

MAMP installs a local server environment in a matter of seconds on your Mac OS X computer, be it MacBook or iMac … Furthermore, if MAMP is no longer needed, it is sufficient to delete the MAMP folder and everything returns to its original status (i.e. MAMP does not modify any of the "normal" OS X).

3. Install ownCloud Server 5 on the same computer, and clients on Mac(s) and idvices: http://owncloud.org/install/

More info about calendar/contacts sync under ownCloud: http://doc.owncloud.org/server/5.0/user_manual/pim/index.html

From what I read, you can use server based Calendar and Contacts using ownCloud client apps, or synchronize between your Mac and idvices apps. The latter is the goal of this exercise. Your master calendar/contacts data will reside in your own cloud on your own computer.

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I will try this when I get back home in three weeks. Meantime any comments, especially those based on the first hand experience would be appreciated. Cheers!

Hi C, would it work with a dongle for the mobile network? and the sim cards in iDevices set on Data roaming?.

PandAteacher wrote:

... It reminds me of the Vogons from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. ...

That reminded me in turn: The writing was on the wall already in 2007 with the release of iTunes 7.3, see:

It's not so much their happy note on the syncing of iPhone sevives (ahh those were the days!), but their note to "share and enjoy"! That my dear friends according to Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy "is of course the company motto of the hugely succesfull 'Seri(o)us Cybernatics Corporation Complaints Devision', which now covers the major land masses of three medium sized planets, and is the only part of the corporation to show a consistend profit in recent years." and the upper half of this motto now reads in the local language as:'Go stick your head in a pig!', which IS the conclusion of the company's song, and only advice to their customers.

Go figure!

A happy down-grader