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Pages 5 features checklist

As you go through the new Pages 5 can you please add an added, missing or altered features here please.


I will start with some culled from the general discussions and if you could correct any errors add them:


Added


1. Right to Left text ie Arabic, Farsi & Hebrew. Uncertain about Pashtu


2. Single model templates. You turn off document text to get rid of the default. Not sure if this then can be mixed and matched with Word Processing templates


3. Able to share outside iCloud


Missing


1. Selecting non-contiguous text gone


2. Outline view appears gone


3. Customizable Toolbar is gone


4. Many templates appear gone


5. Captured pages gone


6. Reorganize pages by dragging gone


7. Duplicate pages gone


8. Subscript/superscript buttons gone


9. Select all instances of a Style is gone


10. Retain zoom level of document gone


11. Facing pages gone


12. Endnotes gone


13. Media Inspector can't find iPhoto library on external drive


14. Update is missing for older installations, Apple is reportedly working on a solution via a redeemable code or update on the ir Support Download site


Altered


1. Language set under Edit > Spelling and Grammar > Show Spelling and Grammar now document wide


2. Subscript/superscript text is now a convoluted route Gear > Advanced options > Baseline > Subscript/Superscript


3. Header appears to be multi-column


4. New file format (but still .pages?) not backwardly compatible


5. Page numbering method changed


6. T.O.C. appears buggy


7. Template file storage location moved - to where?


8. Imported older .pages files are not translating properly


9. Text language is detected automatically now


Letting you know I can't test or verify any of these as I haven't got Mavericks yet.


Peter

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 7:57 PM

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Jan 16, 2014 9:37 AM in response to Hirschkorn

Hirschkorn wrote:


Are there compatibility issues between Pages 4.x and Mavericks? There's no way I'd use Pagex 5.x and I haven't updated my OS yet (still using 10.8.5).


Don't feel compelled to upgrade to Mavericks.


Of all the new features Apple sold at the MavericksKeynote there were three that stood out:


1. Being able to Read iBooks/ePubs in iBooks


2. Tabbed Finder


3. Tags


There were also a few quite nice little additions/improvements in areas which fascinate me but would never be noticed by the average user.


1. 3rd party software can read ePubs, although not as smoothly, but I don't think this is something a lot of users do anyway. Major publications that I read on screen, I read as pdfs in Preview. Apple should have simply extended Preview's functionality to ePubs.


2. I have had a superior Tabbed Finder in Snow Leopard by simply installing TotalFinder [free]. It even adds other features still missing from Mavericks, as per Apple's usual semi-crippled updates.


3. Tags have been implemented very badly in Mavericks and has resulted in long posts of dissatisfaction in the Mavericks forum here, almost as long as those for Pages 5.


Most of the changes are badly done and unnecessary. The so-called total transferability between iOS, Macs and non-Macs has actually been made worse by the incompatible format changes for software that simply adds to the problems and makes work much much harder.


The single obvious improvement Apple has not done, and has said nothing about, is making iOS and iOS apps run on Macs. In one stroke that would cure most of the problems without making life **** for longer term users.


Peter

Jan 16, 2014 10:05 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

You have to hand it to DEAF and BLIND customer support re iWork '09 verses todays iWork software (2014).


In 5 years they have mananged to remove many essential features: leaving Pages, Keynote and Numbers producing incompatible files with vastly reduced functionality. This is the technological 'progress' they are trying to market today. It beggers believe that they cannot see the problems they created for us.


As the teenagers like to say today: "FAIL!"


Jan 16, 2014 12:44 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

I haven't had to mail merge in many, many years. I think the last time I did was around 20 years ago & I used AppleWorks.


In searching for another file this morning I found this list that I made back in May, 2011. I'm sure I sent it as feedback to Apple. We now know none of it will ever happen.


Things I want to see in the next version of iWork (mostly Pages)


open second view of same document using a new window & splitting the window as in AppleWorks & Office

a true database similar to AppleWorks, though basic relational would be good.

this database can open AppleWorks databases & retain layouts & formulas


Numbers:

if not a true database, open AppleWorks databases in Numbers with field names in header row

text styles like Pages


Keynote:

linked text boxes

text styles like Pages


Pages:

built-in imposition for booklets

merge more than one record per page to do labels, a directory, etc.

open AppleWorks draw files in page layout mode

page layout similar to AppleWorks draw with option for multiple pages across & down

images can cross page borders.

open Microsoft Publisher files

true interactive check boxes like AppleWorks


Common requests by other users, though not high on my “wants”

table cells break across page borders

open AppleWorks paint files


User uploaded file

Jan 23, 2014 4:04 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

1. Despite best intentions, Apple is no longer able to be professional software applications company. Its leaders had to make a hard choice. Whoops, wait a minute, they were NEVER A PRO SOFTWARE company. Apple is a PROFESSIONAL AND CONSUMER hardware and OS company. Beyond that they now aspire to be a CONSUMER SOFTWARE company to help sell their hardware. (This all started due to the rocketing success of the iPod and then the iPhone and now the iPad. Any professional, like a school teacher, who got invested into Keynote or Pages was just another person bamboozled by what Apple does well into thinking it can do it ALL well. No apologies or we'll address this from Craig though. He's sticking to his guns of sacrificing PRO users on the altar of lowest common denominator CONSUMER users.


2. Apple is losing its way as far as listening to its customers any longer - NOT until the news media starts in on them. Apple used to listen a whole lot better. Well it was never perfect. But it was BETTER than now. When Steve was around, he would even occassionally reply to user questions himself. Steve knew very well that Apple's roots were all about esthetics AND capability AND listening to users. Unfortunately for Apple's pro-user future, the directive to balance "capability" and "good taste" has changed. Success with the low end consumer products has created a boiled frog laboratory out of their software apps team. Pros will want the hardware and OSX for sure, just like I do. Apple is #1 in this. But the money is all in selling a premium product to lowest intelligence fattest pocketbook consumers. All software that cannot be operated by a 5 year old will be dumbed down so it can. Nowadays literally thousands of negative feedbacks are dismissed as merely unintelligent. No one really reads this stuff at Apple until it hits the news in ways Apple stings from. Talk about proactive... NOT! I know exactly who at Apple is really to blame for this, but will remain silent on naming names.


I really do feel badly for the longevity of Steve's leadership legacy now that Apple is jumping the shark on listening to any professional users any more (except themselves of course as they think they already have all the professionals they need). Apple's desire to ultimately unify OSX and IOS apps is partly to blame for this, and they started this "normalizing" of their so called flagship software apps to IOS consumer user demographics RATHER than OSX pro user demographics. Its an INSANELY badly timed move. WRONG strategy. But they'll never admit it. **** will freeze over first (well unless they feel enough heat from the press messing with their brand reputation - they they will tack).


If Tim, Eddy and Craig could only appreciate how much backfire this will create over the next few years they would reconsider the overly hasty retreat from professional capability in order to "unify" OS's -- which is really behind this badly executed dumbing down of the now half mast flagship apps. But if they indeed no longer feel ANY value or need to cater to professional users (except to claim their software can make nonpros FEEL like a pro) well then, we all know what they have become - a CONSUMER AND PRO HARDWARE company (as always) and a lowest common denominator CONSUMER SOFTWARE company. But FORGET about Apple themselves being a professional software app maker. ITS OVER. Their plate is simply now too full of catering to what makes the most money, and serves the dumbest and youngest monied consumer. Its sad to see Steve's bold and beautiful vision for its "flagship apps" facing such terrible erosion. Hope those consumer users are happy with the apps we are now disgusted by. Apps we once worshipped as freedom from Microsoft Powerpoint prison for example. But I will still be buying their insanely great hardware FOREVER.


Sorry Steve. They're just not you. We really miss you now. SERIOUSLY.

Jan 23, 2014 4:20 PM in response to T2YUKI

I have those already and will check them against the list, and also as to whether they actually work.


Nothing at all is changing as far as I can see with how badly previous files are parsed when opened.


Nor did I see that iWork for iCloud beta has been updated. It appears to be the least compliant of the multiple versions of Pages we have seen in the last 3 months.


Peter

Jan 27, 2014 3:27 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

(I apologize if this has already been addressed)


When working with a numbered item list, how can I modify an isolated/singular list element? I want to change an item that is automatically labeled "4" so that it will be labeled "3.a.," and to change the item after that from its current label of "5" to "3.b." Is there any way to do this?


Thank you for any help.

Pages 5 features checklist

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