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PeterBreis0807 Author

Level 8

41,196 points

Pages 5 features checklist

As you go through the new Pages 5 can you please add an added, missing or altered features here please.

I will start with some culled from the general discussions and if you could correct any errors add them:

Added

1. Right to Left text ie Arabic, Farsi & Hebrew. Uncertain about Pashtu

2. Single model templates. You turn off document text to get rid of the default. Not sure if this then can be mixed and matched with Word Processing templates

3. Able to share outside iCloud

Missing

1. Selecting non-contiguous text gone

2. Outline view appears gone

3. Customizable Toolbar is gone

4. Many templates appear gone

5. Captured pages gone

6. Reorganize pages by dragging gone

7. Duplicate pages gone

8. Subscript/superscript buttons gone

9. Select all instances of a Style is gone

10. Retain zoom level of document gone

11. Facing pages gone

12. Endnotes gone

13. Media Inspector can't find iPhoto library on external drive

14. Update is missing for older installations, Apple is reportedly working on a solution via a redeemable code or update on the ir Support Download site

Altered

1. Language set under Edit > Spelling and Grammar > Show Spelling and Grammar now document wide

2. Subscript/superscript text is now a convoluted route Gear > Advanced options > Baseline > Subscript/Superscript

3. Header appears to be multi-column

4. New file format (but still .pages?) not backwardly compatible

5. Page numbering method changed

6. T.O.C. appears buggy

7. Template file storage location moved - to where?

8. Imported older .pages files are not translating properly

9. Text language is detected automatically now

Letting you know I can't test or verify any of these as I haven't got Mavericks yet.

Peter

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 7:57 PM

1,554 replies

Mar 21, 2014 3:45 AM in response to markeez

Totally agree with you - I never post, but I have to post here.

Pages 5.0 is so unfriendly to use, on so many levels. How did this get the nod past the design phase?

So many neat features are gone, you can't even do anything with thte page thumbnails, table of contents are useless. Plus they tried to get clever by hiding many of the frequently used icons in that side panel.

It's a joke of a release.

I'm still waiting on a 'fix' for this to be released to us all...

Enf of rant.

Mar 21, 2014 3:51 AM in response to Ta-Chien

Yep, they're gone. Plus pasting an image after text is not as simple as it was before.

Mar 21, 2014 3:52 AM in response to cheekyjeremy

100% with you on this one. Probably the biggest ommission of all.

How did this get approved?

Mar 21, 2014 4:12 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

I miss having the ability to paste and match style... When you paste something that has multiple lines, the first line looks like it matches (if you paste it in between text), but every line after doesn't match the style!

I also want to pinch and rotate an image with my trackpad. That feature shouldn't have been done away with!

Mar 24, 2014 2:59 AM in response to AndyPeter

My first time to post a comment on any forum, ever! I've have been frustrated for two days trying to figure out how to neatly organize bullets and numbers with the spacings they need. It turns out to be IMPOSSIBLE to get them alligned. Bye bye pages, I am downloading Microsoft Office as we speak..

I am a big fan of Apple products, but this is just embarrassing. Isn't there some sort of panel in place that test the design for at least 10 minutes before they release it? It seems that that would have solved the biggest issues..

PeterBreis0807 Author

Level 8

41,196 points

Mar 24, 2014 4:12 AM in response to LoekievanLeeuwen

Are you talking about Pages 5.1?

Because when you say IMPOSSIBLE that is so definite and I don't believe that is true.

Be specific and see if there isn't a method to do it.

Give us a screensnap as to what you want.

At minimum it is certainly doable in Pages '09.

Peter

Mar 24, 2014 4:36 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Yep, I am talking about 5.1, sorry. I know it is doable in '09, however the topic now concerns the problems of 5, with tacit advice not to upgrade to the 5.1 version 😉

Let's entertain ourselves and see if it is possible at all!

See first screenshot: I am trying to get the large '3', back to the left, aligned with the big black '2.1'. What does not seem to work is using delete- or enter-key for doing it quickly, like it was possible in word of pages 9. It either moves up or down but is always aligning with the small numbers (1,2,3)

But then; selecting the part en changing the indent also does not seem to work (see second screen shot). The small ‘3’ moves left as well, which does not make sense to me.

Even if it is doable, I still think there should be a level of intuition to it (which I’m used from Apple). It seems to me that Apple overshot their ambition to simplify products by deleting features this time.. Anyway I am back to Word and pages 9 for my work with no hard feelings:)

PeterBreis0807 Author

Level 8

41,196 points

Mar 24, 2014 8:00 AM in response to LoekievanLeeuwen

Looks to me like you have extra returns, and possible some line breaks as well that I can't see, in front of the bold 3.

Menu > View > Show Invisibles

Hit delete twice (or thrice if you have another return) till it trails the small 3. point.

Then hit return, it will become point 4.

Then promote it till it is point 2.2.

Follow the logic. Every return is considered another item on the list.

If you want extra space Before/After a point make it with Before/After paragraph spacing, not by hammering away at the return key.

The Keyboard shortcuts for Pages 5 are listed under the Help menu.

Peter

PS I am not sure you are actually applying List styling, as some of the numbers are not hanging indents.

Mar 25, 2014 5:32 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Thanks for your effort, I gave it a try but it didn't seem to work. I believe you if you say it is possible, but I am getting agitated in the process and don't really want to dedicate any more time to it.. And the numbering was not my only issue, so I have switched to other software anyway..

I'm a big fan of innovation and accept my learning curve if I believe time or value is repaid after mastering a piece of software! For a text editor like this, however, I think more incremental improvements would serve people better. It just not always worth it to learn new ways of editing, even if they it is simpler and better (which I really doubt in this case..).

Thanks anyway