Using Synology Surveillance Station / Java problem

Hi,


I am using a synology surveillance station and I can't get the live view to work. I always get the answer that I have to install Java.


If I install the latest Java version from the apple site the surveillance station just pretends that it is not installed and gives me the link to the apple suport page to redownload the latest Java version. When I check this in terminal I get this:


java version "1.6.0_65"

Java (TM) SE Runtime Enviroment (build 1.6.0_65-b14-462-11M4609)

Java HotSpot (TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.65-b04-b462, mixed mode)


So it seems that java is actually running. What could be the problem?



If I install the latest Version from the Java web site I get a little further. If I try the live view it asks me a couple of question to allow the usage. I accept everything and then it just seems to load forever and I have to close the window.


Any ideas?

Posted on Oct 23, 2013 2:22 AM

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Nov 24, 2013 1:48 PM in response to dvdv1

I had this same problem with my brand-new Synology DiskStation 1813+. I fought it for days, researching obscure Java error messages and trying to get the Java installation right. Then I discovered a simple solution that worked for me. I closed Safari and opened Firefox. I hadn't used Firefox for quite some time, so version 7 opened, and Live View on Surveillance Station worked flawlessly. While I was testing it, Firefox updated first to version 12, then to version 25. All three worked without a hitch.


Unfortunately, Firefox does not correct (for me) the Java errors in File Station. Maybe I should try Chrome??? :-)

Nov 25, 2013 4:39 AM in response to PaulS9411

Hi, Firefox was one of the first things I tried. Unfortunately Synology does not really work with Firefox despite any Java Problems. You are not able to see a multi cam screen with Firefox. You can only watch one cam at the time. I belive it is the same problem with Chrome.


So until someone solves the issue with safari we just have to wair and be patient...

Nov 27, 2013 10:53 AM in response to dvdv1

I agree that I like the basic box, but had I known of their lack of support for access with a Mac and Safari, I might have gone a different way. I don't like their applications enough to buy a Windows box or turn my Mac into a Windows box to make them work. It can't be all that hard, because Plex on the DiskStation runs almost flawlessly, accessing it using a Web interface on my Mac with Safari, with no Java errors and no security violations. I haven't tried the cloud feature yet, but that's a discussion for another thread.

Nov 28, 2013 4:56 AM in response to PaulS9411

Hi, finally I got the solution. Actually I have to say that this come from the Synology Support and that I did not read that well enough end missed one step.


When you run the Surveillance Station with Safari it says that Java is missing. There is a link to the Apple Support site where you can download Apple's Java Version. Download and install ist. Close Safari and open the Terminal:


Copy the following commands and press enter after every step. You should be having Admin rights on your Mac and you will be asked for the passoword. Just type it in and press enter even if the cursor is not moving while you type in the password. That is normal in Terminal.


1) sudo mkdir -p /Library/Internet\ Plug-Ins/disabled


2) sudo mv /Library/Internet\ Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin /Library/Internet\ Plug-Ins/disabled


Additionally, if you encountered the following error message after you entered the second command:

mv: rename /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/ to /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/disabled/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/: Directory not empty

or

mv: rename /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin to /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/disabled/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin: Not a directory

If you entcounter (if not proceed to Step 3) one of the above mentioned errors type the following cammand and press enter:

sudo rm -r /Library/Internet\ Plug-Ins/disabled/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin


3) sudo ln -sf /System/Library/Java/Support/Deploy.bundle/Contents/Resources/JavaPlugin2_NPAPI .plugin /Library/Internet\ Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin

Then reopen Safari. Make sure Java Script is avtivated in the preferences of Safari. Open the Surveillance Station and the Live Mode. While doing so you might be asked if you trust the source. Press yes and if possible check the box that you trust this every time (after all it is you own Disk Station!).


Now it should be running smoothly. For me the solution was the additional cammand between step 2) and 3). I hope it works for you too.

Dec 4, 2013 8:25 AM in response to Gene Ge

Hi Gene, funny this did not work for me since I allways got the error message after the second step and then this soultion did not work. It seems as if there are different solutions that work with different ways the user installed Java in advance.


Maybe I have to add that I startet with a Java clean mashine. I used the search funktion and deleted everything that that had anything to do with Java...


No matter what Synology has to come up with a Java free version. Otherwise we will have the same problem when there is a Java update...

Apr 11, 2014 11:28 AM in response to dvdv1

Well, I for one am really hesitant to start tacking an obsolete & unsecure version of Java into a brand new machine with Mavericks 10.9.x & Java 7 Update 51.


One of the first things I tried is FireFox 28, but no dice. FireFox gives me a black window with some arrow controls and a red message on top that:


Windows IE/Firefox/Chrom or Mac Safari 5.1 onward is recommended to watch MPEG4 and H264 videos.


Seriously?

How many more months do we need to wait after compatibility with Mavericks? JAVA7? FireFox 2x?



Now, jumping on an x year old system with OS X 10.6.8 with Safari 5.1, tap into the DS via the browser, click SS, Safari requests permission for some applet. OK. Boom. Full viewport window with a control panel column on the left, big live preview on the right.


At least I can see my new DS Compatible camera works!

Apr 11, 2014 2:38 PM in response to icerabbit

Clarification to avoid another personal attack.


I have a batch of new equipment, updated software and new cameras. And, I have the problem with Synology Surveillance Station 6 on a brand new system with Mavericks + Safari 7 + Java 7.


SS does not work in FireFox Chrome Opera either. I may get a little farther but I am getting some other errors and no video, advanced settings, ...


Yes, I do question whether it is wise and safe to install JAVA 6. I'm no expert, but things seemed pretty clear last year about removing old instances of JAVA.


On the positive side of things, I was able to completely use, configure, setup and test a camera with Surveillance Station 6 by using a system that is several years old. Since then I have been able to use DS CAM on the iPad & iPhone to use live view and review recordings.


This may seem off topic, pointless, etc. but if you have access to one and can use a mobile device; it may be an option for another user; where he/she dusts off an old system (grab the system you handed down to the kids, loans a parent's older laptop ...) to do what they need to do, to get it all set up in management, motion, etc. Without having to possibly / likely (?) compromize a new computer or run into other compatibility issues by installing obsoleted software.


I am still digging a little deeper with regards to JAVA 6 vs 7 settings, authorizations, etc.


I am waiting to hear back from Synology. I have opened two support tickets with them on this compatibility issue and another related SS matter. The shared solution works / may work; but should not be required. Syno needs to step up to the plate and get SS 6.2 out the door. I'm sure they were made aware of the issue back when it first came up. Months have passed. Maybe they forgot. Maybe it is scheduled for the future. Time to remind them.



Apr 14, 2014 6:56 AM in response to Gene Ge

Hello. I asked the following question on a separate post that I started without first doing a thorough check for previous similar topics. My apologies. I'd apppreciate hearing from anyone who can help me understand the risks of installing Java 6 on Mavericks, with the proviso of blocking all url's except the few that I directly control.


Here's my question from the other thread:


I have a new IP camera that I want to control via a Synology NAS app called Surveillance Station but unfortunately this app currently requires Java 6. I also have Axis IP cameras that require Java 6 or 7 in order to set various motion detection parameters. For this latter task I use Java 7 installed on OSX 10.9.2 and Safari 7.0..3. I tightly restricted Java access to only these few IP camera URLs that are known to me and under my direct control. However, to use Surveillance Station means I would need to uninstall Oracle's Java 7 and install Apple's Java 6. My question is what is the risk of running Java 6 if access is restricted to only the URLs associate with these IP cameras?

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