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sjlawton Author

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What has been lost in Numbers 3.0 upgrade?

Has anyone got a list of features that has been lost in the new version of Numbers?

I am aware (and disappointed) that the useful Categories feature has gone (I have requested this feature back on relevant Apple page). I think I also saw that Print view had disappeared.

What else has gone? I make extensive use of filtering and sorting - if those features have been watered down then I think I may not bother updataing.

Thanks in advance,

Simon.

MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2010), OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 23, 2013 7:36 AM

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Jerrold Green1

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Posted on Oct 23, 2013 7:43 AM

SJ,

Here's my list as of 10:30 EDT:

Function or feature or issue

Reorganize Panel gone

Categories View gone

References now don’t follow sorted rows as they did before. (Now like Excel)

Table Fills not supported

German user can’t use decimal point from numeric keypad.

Split Cells is gone

Sheet View seems to be the only view available during editing. Page view only available in the Print dialog.

Page Headers and Footers are gone

Edit Toolbar (add, delete, rearrange tool icons) is gone.

That's it from here at this time, but I think I have just scratched the surface. Would love to hear from others who are keeping a list.

Jerry

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Oct 24, 2013 12:38 PM in response to SGIII

SGIII wrote:

Jerry,

If you haven't already, don't forget to add to your list the removal of Insert>Date & Time.

SG

SG,

Done, along with a couple of other edits.

Here's the current list, with your changes...

Reorganize Panel gone, no multi-level sort.

Categories View gone

References now don’t follow sorted rows as they did before. This loss a PLUS.

Table Fills are not supported

German user can’t use decimal points from numeric keypad.

Split Cells is gone

Sheet View seems to be the only view available during editing. Page view only available in the Print dialog.

Page Headers and Footers are gone

Edit Toolbar (add, delete, rearrange tool icons) is gone.

Dates don’t display properly when used as X-Axis values - hope this is just a bug

Custom Formats gone

Ability to set page margins gone

Cell border custom line weight is sometimes lost when using Filter Rows

Ability to sort selected rows is gone

Can’t set Page Margins; they default to about 1” all around

Formula Bar is gone, replaced by a field at the bottom of the Numbers window in which the expression is displayed but can not be edited

Graphics Inspector no longer treats a Table as an Object that can be formatted by the Graphics Inspector tools. Or, looking at it from the Table perspective, there is no way to add Shadow effect to a Table’s outline.

Comments only display as Tool Tips now, can’t be static displays

Can’t open Numbers 08 documents

Option to set the behavior of the Return key while editing a cell is gone

Insert > Date and Time is gone

Jerry

Oct 24, 2013 1:03 PM in response to Jerrold Green1

In my spreadsheet the continous numbering of pages is lost.

Each 'sheet' (now that's in form of tabs) has it's own numbers, that cannot be adjusted or continued from previous

Badunit

Level 7

28,222 points

Oct 24, 2013 1:05 PM in response to Jerrold Green1

Jerry, my post earlier today got deleted but not before I read your response. So, thanks, I enjoyed our discussions.

Oct 24, 2013 1:08 PM in response to Partyzant

Partyzant wrote:

In my spreadsheet the continous numbering of pages is lost.

Each 'sheet' (now that's in form of tabs) has it's own numbers, that cannot be adjusted or continued from previous

I'm not sure I follow you. From what I've seen, Sheet 1 is followed by Sheet 2, and so forth. You get a new sheet, numbered sequentially, each time you press the + icon. If you don't like the Sheet 1 name, double-click it and edit.

What am I missing?

Jerry

Oct 24, 2013 1:16 PM in response to sjlawton

what happened to categories?

im in the middle of making the urls and title tags for a website schematic and ive been using categories and love it. also the update reformated all documents onmy computer so while i still have iwork 09, i can use any of my documents on it anymore. i would have wanted another week to upgrade if I knew this.

Oct 24, 2013 1:23 PM in response to Jerrold Green1

Jerrold Green1 wrote:

Partyzant wrote:

In my spreadsheet the continous numbering of pages is lost.

Each 'sheet' (now that's in form of tabs) has it's own numbers, that cannot be adjusted or continued from previous

I'm not sure I follow you. From what I've seen, Sheet 1 is followed by Sheet 2, and so forth. You get a new sheet, numbered sequentially, each time you press the + icon. If you don't like the Sheet 1 name, double-click it and edit.

What am I missing?

Jerry

I guess he means page numbering when printing. It is in no way adjustable. No alignment, font size or colour etc.

SGIII

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36,134 points

Oct 24, 2013 1:37 PM in response to Jerrold Green1

Jerry,

Another item, I think (the list grows).

I don't see the removal of autofill (or whatever it is called) on your list. I don't use it much (the pop-up isn't that bad to enforce data integrity and in iOS is probably faster than typing) but have read threads today suggesting it's sorely missed by some users on the Mac.

Oct 24, 2013 1:53 PM in response to SGIII

I believe that was called: "Show Autocompletion List in Table Columns".

Is that the feature you have in mind?

Jerry

To my list, I have added:

Show Autocompletion List in Table Columns is gone

Static Custom Alignment Guides are gone

SGIII

Level 8

36,134 points

Oct 24, 2013 1:52 PM in response to Jerrold Green1

I'm not sure what it's called. The way I understood it when I read it, when you're typing in values in a column, after you've typed some values in a few rows, the old Numbers would swiftly suggest a value after you type the first few letters.

Oct 24, 2013 1:54 PM in response to SGIII

Yes, the suggestion was in the form of a list of previously entered items in the same column.

Oct 24, 2013 2:04 PM in response to Johnny Hands

CORRECTION: I reported that my Numbers 2.3 in my Applications folder was wiped out after installing Numbers 3.0. But is still there and working in the iWork '09 folder.

But I think Numbers 2.x was never even in the Applications folder to begin with and I was mistaken. (it was down one level deeper in the Applications/iWorks '09 folder the whole time - just activated after I purchased it.)

So nobody gets their Numbers 2.x wiped out as a result of installing Numbers 3.0.

Note, for the old Pages and Keynote in the iWorks '09 folder, I stilll get the Buy/Try dialog (but, as I mentioned in an earlier post, the App Store let me download the new iCloud-compatible versions of Pages and Works, along with Numbers 3, for free - even though I only purchased Numbers.)

PNGento

Level 1

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Oct 24, 2013 2:54 PM in response to Johnny Hands

Thank you thank you....woohoo, I got rid of Numbers3. Good riddance.

Oct 24, 2013 3:05 PM in response to SGIII

The problem is that it deletes them when it opens a document, at least one that was in Pages. I've gone back to the old iWork, too many downgrades for this to be useful.

Thank goodness they are still supporting the old iWork under Mavericks...