List of deleted features in Keynote '13

gadgetgirlie wrote:

One thing I am really missing is the centred rulers - in other words the rulers having 0 in the centre, 12.something means nothing to me.

Thanks for compling the list - I look forward to the update.

Me too! It's so useful. This is what makes me think that those who designed the new iWork don't actually use it! I'm sick of iOS-ification. It seems nobody cares about Mac users anymore. Don't get me wrong: I have an iPad & iPod Touch & love them, and considering to buy an iPhone when it's available in my country. But I hate this trend of dumbing down Mac apps to iOS level.

I'm reading through the thread trying to understand fully what has happened here (and it looks like a dumbing down) before I upgrade.

However; I'm looking at this from the light of a software company (I work for one) who's identically branded products (iWork for IOS and OSX) are different.

From what I've read this version of iWork has been rebuilt from the ground up. It would make logical sense that to hit the release date they've taken the decision to release what they have now.

So there's two ways forward. They either leave both products fairly dumb. Or they build them together in unison which gives them the chance to re-introduce the more advance features back into the OSX code and at the same time deliver new features into the IOS code.

Would make sense to me.

So my fingers are crossed... 🙂

1Azhar wrote:

Keynote 5.3 is still on your Mac, unless you deleted it. Can you open the files with it? Maybe you had a Time Machine backup.....?

True, and I intend to keep using 5.3 for now. However, 5.3 had become increasingly unreliable for me and some other users, causing presentations to become corrupted. I'm hoping that this was related to underlying problems with versioning in Mountain Lion that have been fixed in Mavericks, but only time will tell.

Another missing feature -- Border -- Picture Frame -- Blur option is gone! I used this one alot.

The Apple Mantra

Do not concern yourself with 'professional features', the only people who really care about these are what we call the 'power-user' (PU) on the fringes of our expanding global audience. iWork must, therefore, be simplified to delight the average iPad user, who must "love" it within 120 seconds of opening it.

Should a Macintosh PU (a characteristically vocal, but myopic and retrospective creature) start to whinge, we must not let it distract us from our mission. We will mollify such PUs by making software free for all, then introduce some 'thoughtful' token improvements in a few months. There are, after all, too few of them to matter nowadays, they are our past and remain too narrow minded to see our global vision for platform integration and the fight against Oceania and Eurasia Google and Microsoft.

Remember, some customers are more equal than others. Ignorance is strength.

I've used Keynote for quite some time to create power presentations. I consider the very idea of creating on this level with an IOS device simply ludicrous. Yet, I find using an IOS device as a presentation tool quite compelling.

I'd rather see Keynote on the desktop export a viable "presenter file", which can be played on my iPad without compromising fonts, placements etc. I don't really care about using the iPad to modifiy anything I create in Keynote on the desktop. I simply want to be able to use the iPad to facilitate the presentation process (less weight etc). Why Apple has a hard time conceptualizing this reality is a mystery to me. As Steve Jobs once said, you don't combine a toaster and a refrigerator. They serve different functions. While he was referring to hardware, I think the same can be said for software too. Dumbing down a power app to make the world homogenous, and essentially neutral, is something SJ would not have allowed.

Now I have to figure out how to get the older versions of IOS Pages/Keynote etc. back on my devices. Grrrrrrr.

Exactly how I feel. 😟

And from my experience, in my counrty atleast, people who own an i-Device almost never buy a Mac. They don't care. They don't even understand what sets Apple apart. It's more like "oh yeah, I got the money, I can afford an iPhone". I've always felt that Mac users, on the contrary, know why the chose Apple, and what Apple stands for.

But it's saddening to see that the spotlight is on iOS users, AT THE EXPENSE of Mac users.

"I've used Keynote for quite some time to create power presentations. I consider the very idea of creating on this level with an IOS device simply ludicrous. Yet, I find using an IOS device as a presentation tool quite compelling."

>>Exactly my thoughts.

"I'd rather see Keynote on the desktop export a viable "presenter file", which can be played on my iPad without compromising fonts, placements etc. I don't really care about using the iPad to modifiy anything I create in Keynote on the desktop."

>> You'd have to! When exporting to Keynote for iOS, it screws up object placement. I thought they would have solved that. The new Keynote Apps don't! I know it, because I tried that yesterday. i still had to rearrange a few objects because they were misplaced.

So, at the end of the day: What was working fine / needed got removed. And what didn't work as expected is still broken!

I love keynote the day i started using. Everything was so intutive that it was easy to learn the feature, even with years of using Powerpoint. With the KN6, it has been 2 days now, i still find myself struggling and clicking at all the wrong things. I know there is a learning curve but i dont remember being so difficult. Come on Apple, you mission is always about user exprience....the only exprience i have now is frustration!!!

I remember when Steve Jobs launch the ipad, he clearly state that Apple believe there is a gap between a PC and the phone, and the answer is the iPad. And he was right!!! But that also mean that the user exprience and the needs in all three devices is different. But why is Apple is making the software the same across all devices. I know you want to streamlined....but at least give us back the format bar or floating inspector for mac user. Its not about been power user but. allowing the laptop user to have more control over it cause our interface with all these three devices is different. Tablet is all about touch. Laptop is the trackpad and keyboard!!!

OR are we really trying to kill off PC and we all use tablet??? Win8 or the hybrid laptop/tablet is trying to combine this two together and ....it prove nobody is buying into this idea. because you really cant combine a toaster and a microwave together!!! I still remember Steve Jobs say during the interview that before iPad, the tablet was done wrongly and one is the main reason was there were trying to modify a desktop OS into a tablet and it will not work. He say it need a different OS interface and interaction as the exprience is different. But why are Apple now are making iworks behave this way. Don't tell me the Steve is no longer here and Apple has lost its way. I still believe that Apple still got is DNA but somehow somewhere someone is Apple are not looking into all the tiny details like before!!

I love Apple and all my friends know it. Even sometimes things i do not really like, i believe they did it in the best interest of the user. Watch Steve Jobs interview in D5 conference where he answer about ipad lacking featues like USB. Its all about compromise and customer pay them to make those hard decision. I get it for the sake of Simplicity. But this new iWorks is NOT SIMPLE!!!! Its **** hard to use. You got to do few clicks, pulldown, click again...just to do one thing.

They added instant alpha for images in Keynote for iOS 7.. that alone makes it worth the upgrade for me.

Another missing feature -- Border -- Picture Frame -- Blur option is gone! I used this one alot.

Blur option still there, under Shadow.

Does anyone know how to recover colour palettes from the previous version?

I make presentations on behalf of a large number of clients and have a proprietary colour palette for each which I have paintakingly created using RGB/CMYK values. They all disappeared when I upgraded(?) along with all my presentation templates.

Does anyone know if they can be recovered, or must I start again from scratch (a VERY time consulting task)?

A big THANK YOU to the person who launched this topic/discussion. But to all of us who are posting here, I think it's also important to send Apple a feedback (I did). I believe they will be more prone to listen. Or atleast I hope....

http://www.apple.com/feedback/keynote.html

I would recommend you simply continue using 5.3 instead. It should be still available in a folder in your Apps Folder.