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I have a MacBookPro 17 with Japanese keyboard layout, logos after I installed the new system 10.9 Maverick, my keyboard simplimente was wrong.

Already checked the configurations and the layout is correct Kotoeri input as Romaji, however even then dial the next etcla entar this as the wrong configuration and the @ key is above the 2 key, as fose U.S. layout,.

MacBook Pro (17-inch Late 2011), OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 23, 2013 2:10 PM

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Oct 27, 2013 5:05 PM in response to davsonirom

davsonirom wrote:


I can not just let the USA Intenational PC because it does not support me to write in Japanese


Can you explain that in more detail? What harm does it do to have the US layout on your list? You don't have to use it. If it is appearing in the "flag" menu at the top right of the screen, you would just switch to Kotoeri.


Apple doesn't normally repond user requests, you really just have to wait and hope they will add the fix in 10.9.1.

Oct 28, 2013 7:55 AM in response to phiw13.2

Its a macbook sold by apple japan with Japanese keyboard - nothing extra attached... I have a mac mini here at 10.8 with a bluetooth(apple JIS) keyboard - so I might upgrade to 10.9 tomorrow in a more systematic way BUT I dont think this has anything to do with the Kotoeri preferences..


The US keyboard shuld not be showing the @ next to the P key but rather above 2 key right ?

but when I added the US keyboard the mapping was more like the japnese char map.


Apple have some big and embarrassing isses here.


They failed to pick this basic bug in QA nd they need to be ashamed and offer all us who suffered and identified the issue with free coupons or free macs - then wellmay we say Yay Apple ; but until then rather err boo shucks your product is now as bad as MFST

Oct 28, 2013 8:20 AM in response to grumpypedant

grumpypedant wrote:


The US keyboard shuld not be showing the @ next to the P key but rather above 2 key right ?


Wrong. When you have a JIS keyboard, the US Layout is different than when you have an ANSI or an ISO keyboard. It looks like


User uploaded file


That is why JIS works correctly when US is the default.


Every layout in fact has a "JIS" version which is somewhat different than the normal ISO or ANSI one, but considerably different than the US one.


The different layout versions can be seen with a keyboard editor like Ukelele.

Oct 28, 2013 8:51 AM in response to grumpypedant

grumpypedant wrote:


I dont think this has anything to do with the Kotoeri preferences..


I think it does. If Apple had left in the old keyboard layout setting in Kotoeri preferences, this would not have happened. If fact, it might be possible to use a Terminal command to set that preference to US if one could find the right Mavericks .plist file to change.

Oct 28, 2013 12:16 PM in response to grumpypedant

PS I have compared the .plist files under different keyboards. If I had time to play further with this at the moment, I would try changing the item called ridp in com.apple.inputmethod.Kotoeri.plist, found in Home/Library/Preferences from 0 to 1 (after making a copy of the original of course).


To get to Home/Library, you hold down the option key while doing Finder > Go.

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