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13" Macbook Pro Retina Specs? i5 vs i7? 4gb vs. 8gb vs. 16gb?

im not sure if i can upload these kind of questions, but i might as well give it a try. i need as many GOOD feedbacks as possible.

ok heres the thing..

I'm planning to buy a 2013 13" Macbook Pro with Retina Display soon. This will be my 2nd mac laptop after i sold my other one early because my car broke down early this year. Once i buy my mac i'm planning on keeping for well over 6 years and a little over 10 years hopefully.

Please don't tell me that computers will break down eventually because i am also somewhat tech savvy and take good care of my electronics. in fact, I first macbook ran very well that i was planning on keeping for a very long time as usual with apple products. unfortunately i had to sell it because my car broke down and needed the immediate cash at that time. 😟

This is very important to me for my future as im also still in school trying to finish up. So I'm asking as many different opinions as possible and please be specific. for ex.: You should get the i7 since it will benefit you for the long term and you will feel the big difference even in small internet tasks and watching HD movies.

don't just say get an i5 for example, tell me your opinion why certain specs will be good enough than the other. Simply, Compare and contrast.

I know this was long but i'll get the point of the question..

My main question #1: Are there big differences between the new Haswell i5 2.4Ghz & an i7 2.8Ghz for what I do on the computer?

My main Question #2: Is it worth getting 4gb ram or 16gb ram?

To Finalize: Are all these worth my money for what I am going to use it for and length of time?


here are the list of models..#1 specs indicates my first choice whether or not it will be worth my money? (If its worth it, I am willing to spend up to almost 2k.)

1) 13" Macbook Pro Retina 2013

Haswell Intel Core i7 2.8 Ghz 16GB DDR3 Ram, & 128 SSD

Price: $1,899 (Configured & Shipped)

2) 13" Macbook Pro Retina 2013

Haswell Intel Core i5 2.4 Ghz 4GB DDR3 Ram, & 128 SSD

Price: $1,299 (In Store)

FYI: I am fully aware that the new retinas are non-configurable in the future which I'm totally fine with it.

Ok heres how i'll be using my macbook..

Internet, movie/tv show streaming, some light media downloads for entertainments for personal pleasure, watching 1080p movies and shows. (I multi task a lot too, but I never game nor i use photoshop and other intensive applications.) i very rarely sometimes use photoshop though but it would be just merely just for fun and messing around.

as for school and other work related usages are...

im a sociology major and plan on teaching elementary level kids in the future and maybe? open a small business with my own specialties but teaching would be my main long term goal.

I look in the long term and i want a quite speedy computer. I fully know the base model is also more than enough i need but once again for the speed. plus, smallest 128 SSD is always enough for me so no worries about storage space.


once again i need as many GOOD feedbacks as possible as this is important to me and my budget. and please be specific of what you say. thanks 🙂



So would the #1 choice of my macbook pro be totally worth my 2ks? Are there a huge difference between an i5 2.4 & i7 2.8 that i will totally feel while using my mac on a daily basis?

Posted on Oct 29, 2013 9:41 PM

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Nov 5, 2013 6:48 AM in response to js32

I actually found this helpful, thanks js!


I am, I suppose, 'an average user' when it comes to putting demands on a laptop, and having researched this quite a lot I have come to the conclusion that 8GB RAM is plenty to see me through the next 3-4 years (or more). My usage is unlikely to change in the next 4 years, so 16GB RAM is unlikely to be any more useful to me in 4 years than it is now (I think). My main reason for considering the upgrade now is because upgrades are not an option after purchase. I now think that the money would be better spent on a complete upgrade (i.e. a new laptop) in 4 years time when other aspects of the laptop might also start to stifle performance (i.e. whats the point of having lots of RAM if there are other factors (i.e. CPU, integrated graphics, etc) also holding the computer back).


For me, 16GB is the fear-driven choice, 8GB is the sensible choice.


re: CPU - it seems that a bump to the 2.8 i7 might offer about a 10% improvement in performance over the base 2.4 i5. For me, that's not worth £240 (~ $380 US) here in the UK. I might plump for the 2.6 i5 - not sure yet.

Nov 5, 2013 9:17 PM in response to matt_82

Yes, that's reasonable. It's annoying that you have to decide now. It's true that non-upgradeability means that you could waste money on something you don't need; it used to be you could just buy more fricking RAM if and when you needed it. If you think you're going to buy another laptop in three or four years, you're right that you don't need 16GB. It's also true that a 15" quad-core is a lot more "future proof."


It is mostly people like myself who stubbornly hang on to old (but nice, small) computers who may want it--as I mentioned, I'm writing this on my 8-year-old g4 12" powerbook, using TenFourFox, etc...only possible through RAM upgrades. And on computer longevity, there's this:


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-ram-endurance,3475.html


Again--not an issue for a computer you'll have for five years. As for the processor clock-speed--yeah, it's $$$ for not-so-much-extra. Obviously, if you have the money, go for it. Personally, I would still go for the RAM if I have to choose a single upgrade, but that is choosing ability-to-handle-multiple-large-programs-in-the-future over current speed. Actually, if you want to spend money on present-day-needs, getting the 512SSD/2.6ghz/8gb ram model is probably the best choice, since an emptier SSD is a faster SSD.

Nov 5, 2013 9:23 PM in response to matt_82

matt_82

For me, 16GB is the fear-driven choice



Yup.


85% of APPS havent changed in 6 years, RAM wise.


a 2007 mac mini with 2gig of RAM will run AS FAST as a current macbook Air with 8gig of RAM on MOST THINGS


excepting games (dont mess with them) and Photo and Video editing.


Ive got 8 Macs, some very old, 3 utterly new and top of the line,.....I dont notice anything on ANY of them unless I am messing with photo or video editing.



😊

Nov 12, 2013 6:54 PM in response to dlqhdus86

I have the late 2012 rMBP'13 with the i7 processor and 8GB Ram. Why? Actually, the i5 processor was also good though, but I have a GoPro Hero 3 Black and edit videos with FCP on my rMBP'13. In this case, and especially in terms of rendering, the i7 clearly shows his strengths & advantage of computing power over the i5's.


However, I have to say that I am suprised about the hungry RAM "consumption" of my rMBP. From the boot up it fall already from mid 6GB to low 5GB free Ram. And when opening some apps like safari, mail, and calendar, I am consistently in the 1-2 free RAM range. No idea why. Thus, I do not agree to what my presuccessor PlotinusVeritas wrote.


Propably he also still sleeps with an iPhone 1 under his pillow ..lol - take it easy buddy, just fun. 😉



MyADVISE: If you go for a NEW rMBP'13 go for 8GB, or even better 16GB if you run with many apps & tabs simultniously. And if you know you will do some kind of editing like video or music, go for the i7 2.8Ghz. Otherwise the i5's are fine.

May 7, 2014 5:17 AM in response to js32

I really think my head just exploded after reading that. I know this is an old threat but #1 on google search. I really like the form factor of the 13 but a little iffy about a dual core.


I will be running a virtual machine a lot as well as some pentesting tools. Do you think the i7 would be good or should I bite the bullet and go with the 15in.

May 8, 2014 7:16 PM in response to kbucksot

Tests show the 2.8 i7 is about 11% faster on multicore loads than the 2.6 i5 is.


Whether that's worth it to you depends upon your workload.


If you're going to be running virtual machines and possibly editing photo or video, you might appreciate that speed difference; if you're going to be word processing and web surfing you wouldn't.


For the machine you're considering, the #1 thing I'd recommend is the RAM upgrade to 16 GB. You literally can never have too much, as the operating system will use free memory to cache file information, meaning that if you say run Safari, then quit, if you have enough RAM the next time you launch it the program is still in memory rather than out on disk, which even with SSD takes longer to load from than previously cached disk blocks in RAM.


If you can afford the extra $200, I'd go for the 2.8 i7 as well, given that when you're already spending $1999 the extra 10% in cost is directly reflected in percentage speed improvement and future-proofing.


Though I don't think you'd be in any way disappointed with the 2.6, except perhaps having video edit renders or virtual machine operations take a 10% longer; if you did do those things regularly I think the extra $200 you invested would be quickly forgotten.

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