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What has happened to Apple?

Okay. I've been an Apple fan since the beginning, but things are falling apart... Mavericks is buggy. Mac Mail hangs ALL OF THE TIME.. I've never had to force quit as much as I do now. My iPhone/iPad is buggy and iTunes is just going nuts. If I go to a song, it just starts flipping out and moving to other songs (and it never did that before)... Sometimes when I end a call, it never ends until I shut down my iPhone and restart it... And don't get me started on final CutPro X. I really hope that Apple follows Steve Job's ideas, because since his passing, Apple has not been as reliable and as awesome as it used to be.. Please fix... I'm using the latest MBP Retina and newest iMac and iPhone. (I liked the way it was. I wish I could downgrade)... Thanks..

iMac, Latest OS

Posted on Oct 30, 2013 8:37 PM

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Xsfnrg

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Oct 31, 2013 9:11 PM in response to Rotor-Head

Apparently you can "downgrade" from Mavericks to mountain Lion via "command r" reboot to recovery partition. Did it myself on a new iMac when problems with Mavericks were underwhelming.

Drew Reece

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Oct 31, 2013 9:13 PM in response to Xsfnrg

Xsfnrg wrote:

Apparently you can "downgrade" from Mavericks to mountain Lion via "command r" reboot to recovery partition. Did it myself on a new iMac when problems with Mavericks were underwhelming.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Drew Reece

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Oct 31, 2013 9:16 PM in response to Russell Barrans

Russell Barrans wrote:

How do I stop those startup applications?

Drag the folders away from the /Library/StartupItems if you want to keep copies, otherwise Trash them & reboot. You'll need to authenticate as an admin.

Xsfnrg

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Oct 31, 2013 9:20 PM in response to Drew Reece

un·der·whelm

ˌəndərˈ(h)welm/

verbhumorous

gerund or present participle: underwhelming

1. fail to impress or make a positive impact on (someone); disappoint.

"American voters seem underwhelmed by the choices for president"

Semantricks: door #2: disappoint

Oct 31, 2013 9:41 PM in response to Xsfnrg

Yes, and your sentence states that the problems (not Mavericks) are what were underwhelming.

Oct 31, 2013 9:39 PM in response to Rotor-Head

Totally agree with everybody here. Come on, Apple, be a responsible one!

The wifi is troublesome on my macbook pro retina after "upgrade" to the trash os.

Rotor-Head Author

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Oct 31, 2013 10:18 PM in response to Rotor-Head

I am runny and EXTREMELY simple system. I do not download 3rd party plug-ins all over the place.. I run a very lean system. I always have....

Drew Reece

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Oct 31, 2013 10:37 PM in response to Rotor-Head

That is great, but unless you show us a system report all we have to go on is the fact you are annoyed by your machine that seems to be misbehaving. All you have is a misbehaving Mac. It doesn't seem like a very productive relationship does it?

Maybe we will be completly unable to help you in any way, but you seem to be completely unwilling to allow us to even try.

So for the last time Rotor-Head…

Download http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck open the app to create a report, post it here.

If it looks like unicorns & rainbows you can have my apologies in advance, we have all been in situations like this which is why we want to help. I can't see Apple providing anything beyond that based on the info you have provided here.

baltwo

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Oct 31, 2013 10:44 PM in response to Xsfnrg

Nope, that'll restore the current OS. To get what the machine came with, assuming Lion or greater, you need to use ⌘⌥R, Internet recovery.

Rotor-Head Author

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Oct 31, 2013 11:19 PM in response to Drew Reece

I send ALL my reports to Apple when I am promted. I keep my "auto send reports" on on all my machines and devices that have that feature.. I want them to sucees more that you know.. I love Apple. I just need it to work like it used to... I run very lean machines and NEVER install software that I don't need. Most of what I use is FCPX, Mail and all the other Apple Apps...

Rotor-Head Author

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Oct 31, 2013 11:24 PM in response to Drew Reece

PS.. I prefer not to download some other 3rd party "tell me what's wrong" apps... sorry..

Bottom line is this.. Apple is in the beginning stages of letting the all time Apple gang down.. It's not a huge problem yet, and I am still happy to use and promote Apple, but I started this post with the message that "IF" they keep going this way, they will loose customers... I hope they take a step back and get back to what works, rather than tryring to impress people with what they can do. After all, Apple was founded on the principle of telling us what we needed BEFORE we even knew we wanted it, and I really liked that. I've learned of what I like a lot from Apple.

Drew Reece

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Oct 31, 2013 11:26 PM in response to Rotor-Head

I am asking you to submit an etrecheck report here.

Please say why you refuse to do this, it's the only way we can see what is going on in your system.

Rotor-Head Author

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Oct 31, 2013 11:30 PM in response to Drew Reece

PPS.. It's not just mine.. I run a MBP Retina, a new iMac and a Mac Pro (along with a few iPads, iPhond and iPhones) and myslef and many of my guys at work are all complaining that things are not working as well.. I'm not going to give out my system reports because someone asks for them,. If I was the only one, I might, but it's not just me... It's a big crowd...

I'm sure there are people out there having a perfect time, but not everyone.. It wasn't like that before...

Drew Reece

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Oct 31, 2013 11:33 PM in response to Rotor-Head

Ah that's all fine.

I'm afraid we can do nothing for you, go take your Mac to a store see if they can help.

irdeto

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Oct 31, 2013 11:37 PM in response to Rotor-Head

I totally agree with everything the author of this post has said.

I have been a long time apple fan as well.

It is absolutely unacceptable that a vendor like apple demands premium prices for their products and has embarassing bugs that should never have happened in the first place.

It has now been several weeks - i still can't upgrade my Mac Mini 2013 model to Mavericks because it continually encounters errors (despite doing every single step i have seen online). I am not prepared to call the so called apple geniuses because frankly they bore me and i am normally guiding them through troubleshooting methodology.

As for my iOS device - lets not even go there... the music player randomly crashes....

i could go on and on.

But I will just say - apple needs to fix their SH**. It is embarassing that a company who builds their own hardware and software in so called harmony to have users like me experience upgrade issues each and every time a new OSX comes out. For now i am sticking to mountain lion.

What has happened to Apple?