4G in Belgium

Chris... Belgians are not French according to geography science ;-)

anyway to make a long story short: iPhones are not enabled to 4G by Apple, iPads yes...

the official comunication I reported is to claim the Apple lock of 4G on iPhones only...

hope I made some clarity

your attempt to justify this lock is pathetic I'm sorry, the fact is Apple locked 4g for iPhones priviledging only their official partner, every attempt to cover this fact is ridiculous

Wow... do you actually speak English? NO WHERE did I attempt to "justify this lock".

The LTE network must be certified by Apple as compatible before they will allow the iPhone to use LTE on that network.

Why? Because substandard LTE networks that do not properly handle the hand off of voice calls to the NON-LTE carrier network will cause a poor user experience. Apple will not take the blame for a carriers poor network.

Don't like it? Too bad. It is what it is. Discussing Apple's policies is forbidden by the TOS.

PablitoIT wrote:

Chris... Belgians are not French according to geography science ;-)

Yes, I know this.

My reference is from a television commercial in the states.

-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_CgPsGY5Mw

(as an aside, my grandfather emigrated from Europe around 1888. We originally thought he was from northern France(around Lille) but have recently found out he was from Belgium)

KiltedTim so why iPads are working?

Why it has been granted 4G to the official partner who is still testing 4G and has not yet deployed it?

Why LTE in Belgium is not locked by other manufactures ?... I hate seeing Androids users browsing already with 4G in Belgium :-((((

they're having huge fun of Apple users...

iPads are working because their iPads. iPhones do not do the voice over LTE therefore the network has to be able to hand off from LTE 3G network to complete a voice call, this requires testing and certification by Apple for enabled.

finally a good new, EU is officially investigating with EU carrier to state if Apple behavior is infringing the antitrust law (the same one that costed Microsoft a billionaire fine :-)

http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/apples-lte-restrictions-iphone-targeted -eu-probe/2013-05-27

PablitoIT wrote:

finally a good new, EU is officially investigating with EU carrier to state if Apple behavior is infringing the antitrust law (the same one that costed Microsoft a billionaire fine :-)

Finally?
This story is from May.

Note: "The EC's inquiry falls short of an official investigation at this point"

The EU was simply sending questionnaires to carriers. This was not a full investigation.

The carriers were to respond by June 17th but I cannot locate any followup to this story.

The inquiry seems to have quietly died.

I've been reading other articles, it's not official yet but apparently EU won't proceed with formal accusation since Apple shares the 25% of EU market so, for EU, Apple has not predominance of the market so that users are free to jump on Android platform who doesn't suffer of those limitations for 4G... :-(((

is it that what Apple wants?

PablitoIT wrote:

I've been reading other articles, it's not official yet but apparently EU won't proceed with formal accusation since Apple shares the 25% of EU market so, for EU, Apple has not predominance of the market so that users are free to jump on Android platform who doesn't suffer of those limitations for 4G... :-(((

So the EU isn't proceeding with an anit-trust investigation because they've determined there's no cause of action. Seems pretty reasonable on the part of the EU.

It's not reasonable at all, EU is just saying Apple has no predominant market, so you're free to jump on Android platforms... while I'd like to be free to choose whatever carrier and not the ones imposed by Apple (which are always the most expensive) after all when I bought my iPhone 5s it wasn't advised tha 4G would have worked only on Mobistar... they should advise it clearly

PablitoIT wrote:

It's not reasonable at all, EU is just saying Apple has no predominant market, so you're free to jump on Android platforms...

Which means there is no violation of anti-trust laws. What you'd like to be able to do has nothing to do with anti-trust.

for sure there's a violation of my freedom to choose the carrier I prefer, especially if I buy an unlocked iPhone with no-restriction advices on the box ;-)

PablitoIT wrote:

for sure there's a violation of my freedom to choose the carrier I prefer, especially if I buy an unlocked iPhone with no-restriction advices on the box ;-)

Then call a lawyer. No one here can do anything about that.

PablitoIT wrote:

for sure there's a violation of my freedom to choose the carrier I prefer, especially if I buy an unlocked iPhone with no-restriction advices on the box ;-)

I don't think that's a freedom protected by statute. I know it's not in the U.S. Consitution. But, I've heard the EU has some weird laws.