4G in Belgium

"for sure there's a violation of my freedom to choose the carrier I prefer, "

Who's stopping you?

Meg: in EU we believe in freedom to choose, I'd not call it weird, it's called free market and you should know that Microsoft few years ago had to pay a huge fine to EU for having tried to impose (like in US) to use Explorer... it's accepted in US it's not accepted in EU since we have a liberal tradition/culture

Chris: if I want 4g apple denies me the possibility to choose the carrier I want, they choose for me and they choose normally the most expensive... pity they don't advise you when you buy the iPhone 4g

Then call a lawyer. What you "believe" is irrelevant if the law doesn't support your position.

PablitoIT wrote:

Meg: in EU we believe in freedom to choose, I'd not call it weird, it's called free market and you should know that Microsoft few years ago had to pay a huge fine to EU for having tried to impose (like in US) to use Explorer... it's accepted in US it's not accepted in EU since we have a liberal tradition/culture

Ok, now that I've stopped laughing.....

Please provide citiations from EU law that state you are free to use any phone on any carrier, regardless of technological hurdles or business decisions made by those companies? Philosophical notions of "freedom of choice" do not generally carry the force of law.

Best of luck.

KiltedKim and Meg: how much Apple is paying you? ... please don't answer not because I'll die for laughing

I don't go to a lawyer 'cause it's expensive... I'll just wait for justice to be done... we'll see who will laugh for last ;-)

in the meanwhile read carefully this: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/03/22/apple-antitrust-eu-leap/

have a nice day

Meg, thanks a lot for challeging me ;-) I've found it!

I've contacted FPS the belgian entity for consumer protection and they told me I can file a complain here: http://economie.fgov.be/en/disputes/complaints/where_how_submit_complaint/#.Uq7b oaJ6YfU

regarding the fact that Apple when sells an iPhone doesn't advise there are limitations imposed by them for the use of 4G-LTE, this is infringment of consumer rights yupieeeeee! they'll take legal actions for that.

belgian users join me!!
of course I'll post this link in all the forums open in belgium :-)

That is an entirely different issues. The infringement only relates to that lack of information, not the fact that you can't do what you want with the product. Given that the complaint is deemed valid, all Apple would need to do to comply would be to add a disclaimer. I suspect the disclaimer is already there, though.

Best of luck.

Good job the Belgians are supporting the EU ,little support elsewhere 🙂 😮

PablitoIT wrote:

Meg, thanks a lot for challeging me ;-) I've found it!

I've contacted FPS the belgian entity for consumer protection and they told me I can file a complain here:

Anyone can file a complaint about anything.

Doesn't mean thr complaint is valid or a cause for conern or anything.

Filing simply means it will get reviewed.

I've bought it on the Belgian Apple store and I never got a disclaimer in all the documentation I received, at FPS (government entity) they told me I've all the condition to raise the complaint and that I'm not the only one, actually they are waiting to collect all the requests to evaluate an eventual class action (they referred me a similar issue in Australia where there was a class action because iPad were sold as 4G-LTE but they were not compatible with AU frequencies)

YOu sound like the type of person who would file a lawsuit after scalding yourself because there was no disclaimer on the cup of coffee you purchased warning that it was hot...

Dear... this cup of coffee is burning a lot indeed! I paid it 700€ and only God knows how much it is burning to find out that it is not working as promised when sold only when you unbox it...

And who, exactly, promised you it would work with LTE on YOUR carrier? No one. That's who.

on Apple store it it sold as 4G UNLOCKED iPhone so I assume it works on ALL 4G networks otherwise they should call it 4G Mobistar to be honest and correct... when you buy a 3G unlocked iPhone I think it's natural to deduce it works on all 3G networks...

PablitoIT wrote:

I assume it works on ALL 4G networks

You assumed wrong.