Some of my emails go to Archive folder automatically without chance of being read. Archive appears to be a local (on-my-mac) folder which removes the emails from IMAP. We are 3 people using one IMAP account (support email), moving emails to a local archive folder on my Mac prevents other two co-workers to have access to all emails received. How do I dissable Archive in Mail completely? Thanks.
OS X Mavericks (10.9), Mail app with 10.9.1 update
I do not have a rule created to move messages to Archive folder. I also did not create the Archive folder itself, though it is full of messages (new and old). I've seen other people asking about how to turn off Archive feature in Mail on other forums as well.
Its the way Gmail works. Gmail archives all your mail, log into the web mail app and you will see you have an inbox and an all mail folder. Log into gmail using your web browser then go to the pop/imap settings and change the archive setting.
wow you are so helpful
Raymond
I think "archive" setting in gmail is different from the new "archive" mail folder in apple Mail 7 in Maverick...
The Mail 7 archive that appeared after Maverick install includes all mail from gmail. It seems that it may be collecting everythiing that is on the gmail server...
We have three people who access this mail account and I don't want to mess up the imap functionality
It got my attention because I had unexplained consumption of disk space... Omnisweep has found that gmail is consuming 150 Gig on my 500 Gig drive.
edmineck wrote:
wow you are so helpful
Clearly you know little about the subject.
It's a Gmail function, not Mac Mail, if you stop using Gmail it stops.
Perhaps you should research a little before opening your mouth, or fingers.
hmmmm
perhaps you should take your own advice
Wow again - you are a 'classic'
edmineck wrote:
Raymond
I think "archive" setting in gmail is different from the new "archive" mail folder in apple Mail 7 in Maverick...
The Mail 7 archive that appeared after Maverick install includes all mail from gmail. It seems that it may be collecting everythiing that is on the gmail server...
Totally incorrect, Gmail keeps all of your mail, whether you delete it or not (so they can sell your info), it labels it as All Mail and keeps it handy (so they can get revenue from it)
Mail maps Gmails labels to the nearest equivalent Mail folders, (Inbox to Inbox, All Mail to Archive etc). The Archive folder is a Mail created folder, but it is Gmail that is filling it, if you quit using that nasty spyridden junk the problem goes away.
Thank you for being a good source of information for Google to sell, more like you means that their profits go up.
😁😁😁
Seems we are trapped in a political fight between Google & Apple. Consumer's will have to wait.
Most probobly until a third party comes with a mail app that deals with the problem. Then Apple will have to react.
As stated by Csound Gmail automatically moves all your mail to the All Mail folder, it does this if you use their web application or Apple Mail. The only thing that changed is Apple Mail now puts your All Mail foler under the archive sine for all purposes that's what it is. Gmail even keeps your deleted messages in All Mail unless you go into your settings and change the settings. If you are using imap the archive is not on your mac but the index file is and since you have tens of thousands of emails its going to get rather large. I barley use my Gmail and there 64000 emails in my Archive (All Mail).
Ro33y wrote:
Seems we are trapped in a political fight between Google & Apple. Consumer's will have to wait.
Seems you have completely failed to understand what is going on.
It happens in Gmail, at the website, long before the emails get anywhere near a mail client, any mail client.
Google make money by selling the content of your emails to interested parties, you're just an income stream.
I am trying something different.
I have gone to Gmail's Setting and make it to forward any mail to my iCloud account.
Then I deactivated GMail in Mail.
Hopefuly I will be able to handle new mail this way. For my old mails I will have to go to GMail.
That will work for a while, but the All Mail folder on the website will eventually fill up, an inconvenience but not a serious one.
Ro33y wrote:
I am trying something different.
I have gone to Gmail's Setting and make it to forward any mail to my iCloud account.Then I deactivated GMail in Mail.
Hopefuly I will be able to handle new mail this way. For my old mails I will have to go to GMail.
You haven't change a thing except your perception of what is going on.
Gmail doesn't have folders. It has Labels, much like the new Tags in Finder, but for email. Every email that comes through Gmail's system gets initially tagged with two Labels, "Inbox" and "All Mail". Since Mail uses Folders, it appears that the message is inside two different folders. It is not.
When you move an email out of the inbox in Gmail (including trashing it), all that happens is the Inbox label is removed and a new label for the destination is added. The "All Mail" label is still intact and the email still "resides" in "All Mail" along with wherever else it has been Labeled.
Hi Barney:
Thanks. I understand this process is still going inside GMail.
This is not a fix, just a different approach to keep using my GMail account in Mail, without all the auto-archiving anoying issues.
And it is working fine! Mail feels much lighter in my Mac, iPhone and iPad, and the eternal sinching process with Gmail has vanished.
I was having this same issue, with random new unread emails being automatically moved out of my inbox to an Archive folder in the Mail program (interestingly, they still showed up in my inbox on my iPhone).
I found a solution on another thread: Go to Gmail Settings > Labels and uncheck the "Show in IMAP" checkbox next to "All Mail."
Once I did this all the messages reappeared in my inbox. Hope this helps!
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